I'm not saying that she doesn't have failings - I honestly don't know, and I'm not suggesting that anyone here is making up stories about her.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But she's being accused of everything ranging from incompetence to dishonesty and these things have a habit of sticking.
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02-12-2020 08:04 AM #61
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02-12-2020 08:15 AM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Very true, but Laura has her share of responsibility here, no doubt.
Also, people saying that there is no conflict of interest because Hibernian Women are supported by the Community Foundation... well, our shirt 'sponsor' last year WAS the Foundation, so clearly there is a very direct link between sponsorship and the women's team.
As I have said above, I do not know anything the quality of her work for Hibs, but it is entirely legitimate to scrutinise what appeared to be a very obvious conflict of interest. Those trying to shut this down sound like those Jambos who seem to think any questioning of the way their club is run is out of order.
The fact that she appears to refer to us merely as 'her previous day job' and is expressing joy at now being able to devote herself to Glasgow City full time makes me think that we should never have appointed her in the first place.
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02-12-2020 08:26 AM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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02-12-2020 08:28 AM #64
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A very strange appointment by Dempster from day 1 and it is utterly no surprise that they are both leaving at exactly the same time.
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02-12-2020 08:29 AM #65
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If your passion/hobby is a direct conflict of interest with your day job, your employer has a right to be concerned about it.
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I don’t believe that’s entirely her fault - IMO appointing someone whose professional background AFAIK was not one of commercial sponsorship or marketing was always going to be a gamble and on the face of it it doesn’t appear to have worked out as well as had been hoped. However, I’m sure there were many positives she brought in as well, and I wish her all the best for the future at Glasgow City, which has always understandably her passion outside her day job.
We’ll move on now, and hopefully we can bring in someone with a strong track record in similar roles that can really drive the income for the club on that front. Whether they’re a Hibs supporter in not is immaterial to me, as long as they are successful.
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02-12-2020 08:50 AM #68
For anyone who knows about her, what was her actual qualification to come to Hibs and become head of sales and sponsorship? Did she have a proven track record at this elsewhere? You would like to think that Hibs only employ people with proven expertise in the role they are recruited for, just like we would for any footballer we sign. Can anyone point to her successes in the role at Hibs?
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02-12-2020 10:32 AM #69
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I think it was a guy called Greg in that position before and he was very good I think that era was better in terms of Hibs TV content, articles online and advertising. Contrast that to the last 18 months and it has been poor and we are without a major sponsor which is harming the club.
If Petrie and Dempster were solely responsible for negotiating our sponsorship deals then I will eat my hat!
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02-12-2020 11:09 AM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not an either/or situation.
The sales team will generate leads and fulfil sponsorship commitments from the club side. But of course any major investor or partner will want to seal the deal with the most senior person. Shirt sponsorship probably relies on connections made by the CEO / Chairman. Shared responsibility.
Just look at the SPFL - Neil Doncaster is (rightly) held accountable for failing to secure sponsors, even though there will be others within the organisation working on the details.
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02-12-2020 06:53 PM #71
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Ggtth
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02-12-2020 07:40 PM #73
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taking the blame, isn't necessarily the same as "who is to blame"....
The reality is, creating the sponsorship conversations is definitely one of the commercial lead role. In practice, the main sponsorship deals in Hibs have been fronted and concluded by Petrie or Dempster in recent years..
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02-12-2020 07:52 PM #74
Probably a bit off topic but I’m more excited by who Ron Gordon brings in to replace the outgoing members. LD was good and probably what we needed when we she started but all of these roles have a shelf life and hers is imo coming to an end with us, as for LM I’m confident Ron will replace with better.
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03-12-2020 11:43 AM #78
Strange situation. Probably for the best she is gone. Vital role in clubs these days and needs someone doing everything they can for us.
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03-12-2020 05:31 PM #79
When our previous commercial guy left, his ‘no 2’ if you like was meant to step up.
He had a great relationship with Marathon Bet etc and fully expected to get promoted.
When Laura got appointed in his place he left to go to Newcastle or Sunderland, can’t remember which.
Story I heard is that she gave MB a take it or leave it offer and they walked away.
Whatever, failing to secure a sponsor is clearly a failure so best that we get someone else in.
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The only area we are performing well in is design, I like the colour schemes used and think they match our club well as they definitely remind me of bygone days when I could attend games, makes me miss being in Scotland. That's my very uninformed input on it
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04-12-2020 07:01 PM #83
Whatever her actual responsibilities were she certainly shouldn't have been pointing potential sponsors in the direction of Glasgow City while she was working for Hibs. In most organisations that would surely, at the least, be subject to disciplinary. But I didn't know what her responsibilities were and I would be surprised if many other people on here did.
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04-12-2020 07:03 PM #84
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Absolutely nailed it.
With your last sentence.
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Wow. This has made my weekend.
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04-12-2020 11:16 PM #87
There is some talk on here that she used contacts made through Hibs to try and source funding for Glasgow City. One even claiming that an existing Hibs sponsor was called into the club to meet her only to find himself presented with a pitch for Glasgow City.
One poster suggested that there wasn't a conflict between her role at Hibs and her role at Glasgow City because the two clubs aren't in competition, I beg to differ. It wouldn't matter if Glasgow City made Jam or Biscuits rather than played football, it's at the very least unethical to:
A) Try and divert a possible sponsor looking to put money into your employers business into putting that money into another business you are involved in.
B) To use the facilities, commercial infrastructure and contacts of the business that employs you, even if you have facilitated those contacts on behalf of the business initially, to carry out work for another business if it is in any way detrimental to the one that employs you. If there is any substance to that it would be a sacking offence on the spot at practically any business you can think of.
When I worked for the Civil Service the rules were incredibly strict against using contacts you had made in your capacity as a government employee to promote or drum up trade for any outside business. For different reasons commercial business applies rules that are just as strict, even to the point that you can end up in court if you aren't careful.
It seems to me that Laura Montgomery had a massive conflict of interest that impacted on her work for the club and it's as well for Hibs and her that she is no longer involved with us. I don't know what the rules are in America, but I'll bet a pound to a penny Ron Gordon would have no truck with such goings on. From my point of view as a fan who sinks a considerable amount of money ( for me ) into Hibs every year I do not want to see the money I give used to employ someone who isn't 100% committed to the job they are paid to do for the club.
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05-12-2020 04:57 AM #89
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There’s every chance that she worked very hard to do well in her role and it just didn’t work out ..It seems the relationship with Glasgow City has cast her as a “baddie” .
Seems well out of proportion to me
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