Confirmation this morning he has fractured his skull in a freak incident with David Luiz. Wish him a speedy recovery.
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30-11-2020 08:26 AM #1
Raul Jimenez
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30-11-2020 09:24 AM #2
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A lot kicking off on social media because david luiz played on after such a heafty clash, fuelled by Troy Deeneys views that these decisions should be left to the player, at a time when English football has seen one charlton brother die whilst battling dementia and the other diagnosed with it all being linked to the heading of the ball never mind nasty knocks crazy to be broadcasting such stupidity.
Some shows on Talksport I quite enjoy but I’m starting to think they should really be held accountable in some way for allowing such idiotic statements being made on the show and the constants baiting fans for calls whilst I’m at it
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30-11-2020 09:33 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-11-2020 09:34 AM #4
Certainly not a medical expert just throwing this out there but does this injury threaten his career in this day and age? Can a player go back to full contact football, heading the ball etc after such an injury. Didnt Petr Cech have to wear a skull cap after his injury, that would be a little more cumbersome for an outfield player.
Was an awful clash and wish him a full recovery.
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30-11-2020 09:38 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-11-2020 09:43 AM #7
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Can't believe David Luiz played on. He clearly had a bad knock himself and lost blood.
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30-11-2020 10:05 AM #8
It'll annoy a few anti-rugby die hards, but its about time football took a leaf out of rugby's book and allowed temporary substitutions for head injury assessments.
The decision whether to play on or not can't be left to the player and if the coaches fear having to make a permanent substitution while the situation is still unclear or being down to 10 men for a period of time then they'll always be more reluctant to make that decision.
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30-11-2020 10:24 AM #9
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Players health has to come first and it has to be taken out of the player/manager's hands. Get a neutral Dr to cover every game so that the Dr can't feel under any pressure like what happened to Eva Carniero.
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30-11-2020 10:30 AM #10
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But in this particular instance, the game was stopped for ten minutes. The medical folk must have had time to satisfy themselves that Luiz was OK to play on, at that point.
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30-11-2020 10:30 AM #11
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Players health has to come first and it has to be taken out of the player/manager's hands. Get a neutral Dr to cover every game so that the Dr can't feel under any pressure like what happened to Eva Carniero.
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30-11-2020 11:23 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Talksport really is awful *****. Apart from anything else, their coverage of Scottish football (such as it is) only encourages the view that only two clubs matter up here.
Do yourself a favour and stop listening. Hopefully the station will lose so many listeners that it dies.
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30-11-2020 11:55 AM #13
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a lot happening around head injuries in the game right now I wonder if we're beginning to see a move towards heading being outlawed all together, huge challenge for the game to make it safer if its proven to have long term effects on players.
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30-11-2020 12:04 PM #15
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I hope he’s okay, it looked a dull one. Any head knock should lead to a sub and there should be a subsequent sub added imo.
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30-11-2020 12:12 PM #16
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If he was subbed at half time because of that then I don’t think they did anything wrong. If he was subbed at half time because of concussion fears, then that’s a bit different. As I say, given the time the game was stopped, he must have passed the concussion tests or whatever.
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30-11-2020 12:48 PM #17
I said this in the non hibs games thread when it happened but it will never come into football to do HIAs. There are too many players that pretend to have an injury to get a free kick or an opponent carded. There will be players having to leave the pitch all over the place due to play acting. Having played rugby before and after HIAs came in I guarantee you that it is a safer game now that it is on place. If a physio comes on for a head knock of any description in the amateur game the ref will not let that player continue. In the pro game there are doctors at the game who watch for any head knock and can stop the game and ask for the player to leave the field for an HIA. HIA and concussion protocols were really pushed big time after the death of a teenager in Ireland who had taken three blows to the head and was NEVER knocked out. He died after collapsing during the game. No chances should ever be taken with a players health. No matter the sport. But players need to stop pretending to be hurt as well
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30-11-2020 12:51 PM #18
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this, saw him getting bandaged up, no way was he fit to play IMO
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30-11-2020 12:55 PM #19
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30-11-2020 01:33 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Good luck to the lad, hope he makes a full recovery and gets back playing, it was a sickner of a collision.
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30-11-2020 01:52 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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He couldn't really head the ball, he was uncomfortable - nothing else - so we took him off.
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30-11-2020 03:16 PM #24
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They followed the protocols and he wasn’t taken off because he passed the relevant tests. He was then subsequently taken off because he found having his head bandaged up made it awkward to head the ball.
I don’t disagree with wider points on head injuries. Just in this case I don’t think Arsenal did much wrong and had ample time to make the assessments of the player they needed to due to the stoppage.
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