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    World Cup 2022 qualifying draw

    Monday 7th December. We're in pot 3 and will have to make the top two of our group.

    Looking at the groupings, difficulty could probably range from:

    Belgium, Switzerland, Scotland, Bosnia, Cyprus

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    Denmark, Romania, Scotland, Luxembourg, Andorra, San Marino

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    Stick on to get Israel again

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    Just looked at previous qualifiers, 19 or 20 points required for 2nd.

    16 from seeds 4-6
    3 from seed 2
    1 from seed 1

    Games against the smaller nations are pivotal to avoid needing miracles in the big games

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    Just looked at previous qualifiers, 19 or 20 points required for 2nd.

    16 from seeds 4-6
    3 from seed 2
    1 from seed 1

    Games against the smaller nations are pivotal to avoid needing miracles in the big games
    Basically have to beat all the crap, and win the head to head with the pot 2 side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Basically have to beat all the crap, and win the head to head with the pot 2 side.
    Aye, that should give us a great chance

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    Basically have to beat all the crap, and win the head to head with the pot 2 side.
    Can already tell the opening game will be a 0-0 draw away to Estonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Basically have to beat all the crap, and win the head to head with the pot 2 side.
    The problem is there aren’t many really crap sides around and we are closer to being their level than the pot 2 level.

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    The problem is there aren’t many really crap sides around and we are closer to being their level than the pot 2 level.
    You think? I’d be extremely confident in competing with Romania, Slovakia, Wales etc while pumping every single team in pot 5/6 and vast majority of pot 4.

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    You think? I’d be extremely confident in competing with Romania, Slovakia, Wales etc while pumping every single team in pot 5/6 and vast majority of pot 4.
    Wales would beat Scotland.

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    The days of a top two finish from a group of 5 being enough are long gone and there is a lot more quality around these days than there has ever been.....there will be big names missing when the draw in 2022 comes along. Every Hampden game now is a MUST win, away ties against the pot 4s and below are MUST wins. Actually the gap in quality between the European teams now is not huge, little decisions here and there in individual games will decide a few countries fate. We will need a bit of luck but more importantly, we need to avoid bad luck (see Czech Rep 2011....still hurts that one).

    The big negative is the squad that got us to the Euro's and to runners up in the Nations League group are not good enough to get us to a world cup, the positive is that it is a young team and they will be better and more experienced this time next year....Clarke will also be much more savy to the international game. Who we get in the draw will be a big factor in our chances that is true....but more importantly we need to be looking for more quality to come in, be it pinching quality players with Scottish grannies (Che Adams?) or someone from the U21s to make a leap forward (Hornby, Turnbull, Porteous, etc).

    We need to improve a hell of a lot from where we are, thing is we are improving though. Even our Slovakia defeat was night and day from our last trip there.....it was a 50:50 game that arguably on the balance of play we should have won. If the improvement continues at this rate then no one will want to play us, if it stalls or if this is the peak then we will struggle. Lets hope its the former.......come on Scotland, we love you!

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    We didnae want to go to Qatar anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    Monday 7th December. We're in pot 3 and will have to make the top two of our group.

    Looking at the groupings, difficulty could probably range from:

    Belgium, Switzerland, Scotland, Bosnia, Cyprus

    to

    Denmark, Romania, Scotland, Luxembourg, Andorra, San Marino
    Is it not just the group winners plus 2 best runners up or something?

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    Is it not just the group winners plus 2 best runners up or something?
    All 10 group winners qualify, 12 teams (the 10 runners up and the top 2 Nations League group winners that finished outside the top 2 of qualifying) then go forward to 3 play off paths and play 2 rounds of single match play offs and the 3 winners from each path also qualify for the World Cup to make up Europe's 13 places.
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    Draw 5pm today and a reminder of the pots

    Pot 1: Belgium, France, England, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands.

    Pot 2: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Austria, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey, Slovakia, Romania.

    Pot 3: Russia, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Czech Republic, Norway, Northern Ireland, Iceland, SCOTLAND, Greece, Finland.

    Pot 4: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Israel, Belarus, Georgia, Luxembourg.

    Pot 5: Armenia, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kosovo, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Latvia, Andorra.

    Pot 6: Malta, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar, San Marino.
    Last edited by Billy Whizz; 07-12-2020 at 11:18 AM.

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    I’d love England from Pot 1

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    I’d love England from Pot 1
    I’d like to see England, Wales and Scotland

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    Group F please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Group F please.

    Result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 90+2 View Post
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    Result.
    Who do we want from 4th pot

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    Hahahaha

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    So far
    Group A
    Portugal
    Serbia
    Republic of Ireland
    Luxembourg
    Azerbaijan

    Group B
    Spain
    Sweden
    Greece
    Georgia
    Kosovo

    Group C
    Italy
    Switzerland
    N Ireland
    Bulgaria
    Lithuania

    Group D
    France
    Ukraine
    Finland
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Kazakhstan

    Group E
    Belgium
    Wales
    Czech Republic
    Belarus
    Estonia

    Group F
    Denmark
    Austria
    Scotland
    Israel
    Faroe Islands
    Moldova

    Group G
    Netherlands
    Turkey
    Norway
    Montenegro
    Latvia
    Gibraltar

    Group H
    Croatia
    Slovakia
    Russia
    Slovenia
    Cyprus
    Malta

    Group I
    England
    Poland
    Hungary
    Albania
    Andorra
    San Marino

    Group J
    Germany
    Romania
    Iceland
    North Macedonia
    Armenia

    Liechtenstein

    Not too much travelling for the TA apart from Moldova
    Last edited by Billy Whizz; 07-12-2020 at 04:46 PM.

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    Great draw for us.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Great draw for us.
    No excuses this time
    Best teams from those pools for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby View Post
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    No excuses this time
    Best teams from those pools for us
    We can that group for sure.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16

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    Surely we can finish above one of those teams and get at least 2nd. What an opportunity

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    Definitely best draw possible, puts us in with a real chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_1875 View Post
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    Definitely best draw possible, puts us in with a real chance
    Avoid a couple here and get abania may as well apply for Visa

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    Israel again. **** off

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    Israel for a wee change.

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