Boring

[Hibs90]

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Great, well thought out response that.

It's not negativity, it's fact. Form is dropping, so are performances.

If form meant nothing then I guess we should have given Hecky more time eh?

Anyone who dares to go against the grain on here immediately gets rounded on for having a different opinion.

Beyond a joke at times.

[BSEJVT]

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Great, well thought out response that.

It's not negativity, it's fact. Form is dropping, so are performances.

If form meant nothing then I guess we should have given Hecky more time eh?

Anyone who dares to go against the grain on here immediately gets rounded on for having a different opinion.

Beyond a joke at times.

What utter nonsense

I am as down about Hibs at present as anyone but to say we are 9th on that basis is utter crap.

[matty_f]

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Exactly.

Shows how negative folk want to be when they're bringing up meaningless nonsense like a table from the last 6 games. We've had a fairly hard fixture list recently.

We will be 3rd or probably 4th come the end of the season which will be a decent effort.

Nobody yet has mentioned who the entertaining teams are in this league. We're still building but with players like Murphy, Boyle, and Nisbet I doubt we're boring compared to most.

I definitely agree that posting that we’re 9th in the form table while offering no context (i.e. that we’re on the same points as a load of teams) is at best disingenuous.

[calumhibee1]

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Exactly.

Shows how negative folk want to be when they're bringing up meaningless nonsense like a table from the last 6 games. We've had a fairly hard fixture list recently.

We will be 3rd or probably 4th come the end of the season which will be a decent effort.

Nobody yet has mentioned who the entertaining teams are in this league. We're still building but with players like Murphy, Boyle, and Nisbet I doubt we're boring compared to most.

Just because the other teams are potentially more boring it doesn’t mean we can’t be.

I’ve found us pretty boring. Knowing we’re not as boring as County, St Mirren or Motherwell doesn’t suddenly get me on the edge of my seat watching us play.

[matty_f]

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Great, well thought out response that.

It's not negativity, it's fact. Form is dropping, so are performances.

If form meant nothing then I guess we should have given Hecky more time eh?

Anyone who dares to go against the grain on here immediately gets rounded on for having a different opinion.

Beyond a joke at times.

That’s not true. Folk going against the grain have, by definition, unpopular opinions. When someone posts something that other people disagree with, the people who disagree post to say as much.

That’s not being rounded on.

In fact, the very idea that there’s folk waiting to shout down dissenting voices is absolutely absurd when you take a step back and see the sheer volume of “negative” posts on these forums.

[truehibernian]

Last season, 30 games played, 37 points

So far this season, 15 games played and 26 points.

A good December (with very winnable fixtures especially at home) sees us overtake the points tally for last season with plenty of the season remaining.

There is definite (and objective) progress under JR. Important to win games first, build on the way and style we win them as the season and transfer windows progress. Nisbet, McGinn, Gogic, and Murphy have been excellent additions, he's bringing the best out of Doidge, despite a couple of recent set backs Porteous is becoming a mainstay, and Mackie looks rejuvenated. Gullan and Doig will only improve with more game time and experience against better sides.

The most obvious disappointment was the Hearts game but that was a game we should have won on chances. The Aberdeen away game was the only game recently where the side deserved criticism, but that was on the back of the cup semi.

It's really important to remember there being no fans at games too. With good backing, this side has real potential and players can and will raise performances.

Overall, I'm encouraged - but I would like to see some real progress from youth development in certain positions, particularly midfield and central defence.

[greenpaper55]

The ultimate decision regards if we are boring or not will be when the ST sales come round again. If thousands desert the team then that will give a bit of an indication ! Personally when i was last at E R i was on my phone quite a lot checking other scores on my coupon, it was more exciting that what was on offer on the pitch.

[hibbysam]

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Just because the other teams are potentially more boring it doesn’t mean we can’t be.

I’ve found us pretty boring. Knowing we’re not as boring as County, St Mirren or Motherwell doesn’t suddenly get me on the edge of my seat watching us play.

That’s your opinion. I don’t find us boring, our games are mostly open and attacking affairs, plenty goals, mistakes, chances, talking points. I’m bored mostly by sitting in the house watching on tele, I hate watching football on tele, no atmosphere. That’s not a slight on hibs though.

[HibeeHibernian4]

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Likewise

Whilst league position wise we shouldn't be complaining I honestly find it difficult to sit and watch us just now. Must have spent big chunks of tonight just fannying about on my phone rather than watching the game. It's just dull as anything.

A lot of Hibs fans were on their phone constantly when watching Hibs at ER anyway so no change there.

[1648]

Don’t think we r boring and after watching Hibs for over 50 years have seen a lot worse. We have a mixture of players some who may go on to play at a higher level and others who have peaked with us. I think what has been missing for a long time is a proper Captain or players with real character. For me our last “Captain” was Yogi. Apologies to SDG who will always be a Hibee legend.

[allmodcons]

November doesn't suggest that we are boring - 4 matches - 15 goals - 8 for and 7 against.

The last 3 matches, in particular, could not be described as boring. Nerve jangling at times but certainly not boring.

That said, we lack energy in central midfield and our decision making in the final third needs to be better. We have two really good wide players in Boyle and Murphy who have the ability to go past opposition defenders but, on occasions, just need to get their head up with the final ball.

[Iggy Pope]

By the way I’m so bored I cannot wait for tomorrow’s game. I’ll get agitated to **** again but that’s my opium I suppose.

[matty_f]

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By the way I’m so bored I cannot wait for tomorrow’s game. I’ll get agitated to **** again but that’s my opium I suppose.

I’m with you on this one.

[bigwheel]

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By the way I’m so bored I cannot wait for tomorrow’s game. I’ll get agitated to **** again but that’s my opium I suppose.

Lol. The football fans disease ...there’s always the next game :-). Will be a decent match I think ....

[Hibs90]

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What utter nonsense

I am as down about Hibs at present as anyone but to say we are 9th on that basis is utter crap.

Another well thought out response.

8th (misread my apologies) in form table for the last 6 games due to goal difference, 9 points out the last 6 games. 3 wins out of the last 10 which is almost a third of the season.

That's a fact, so I'm not sure how that can be utter crap. It's a downward trend at present.

[Hibs90]

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That’s not true. Folk going against the grain have, by definition, unpopular opinions. When someone posts something that other people disagree with, the people who disagree post to say as much.

That’s not being rounded on.

In fact, the very idea that there’s folk waiting to shout down dissenting voices is absolutely absurd when you take a step back and see the sheer volume of “negative” posts on these forums.

Aye, having every response to these opinions being "utter crap" or other well thought reasonable responses

[Pretty Boy]

I think a current form table is relevant in the sense that it gives a snapshot of a moment in time. Over the course of a season John Hughes had us finish 4th in the table. However if you looked at the form from February onwards that season there were all kinds of alarm bells ringing, as it was that form carried over into the following season and it went from a blip to a definite downward spiral.

However it's important current form is presented accurately and with some kind of context. Otherwise it becomes meaningless and is easily dismissed.

[hibbysam]

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Another well thought out response.

8th (misread my apologies) in form table for the last 6 games due to goal difference, 9 points out the last 6 games. 3 wins out of the last 10 which is almost a third of the season.

That's a fact, so I'm not sure how that can be utter crap. It's a downward trend at present.

Everyone in the form table have played different teams so it’s utter pointless. In the ten games you quote we’ll have had the hardest run of anyone having played Aberdeen twice and the old firm 3 times. We are still clear in fourth and right up Aberdeen’s arse, and not far off Celtic either.

[JimBHibees]

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Great, well thought out response that.

It's not negativity, it's fact. Form is dropping, so are performances.

If form meant nothing then I guess we should have given Hecky more time eh?

Anyone who dares to go against the grain on here immediately gets rounded on for having a different opinion.

Beyond a joke at times.

Just nonsense all of it.

[Brightside]

Basically all the teams bar Rangers are boring right now. Can we agree and just close the thread.

[matty_f]

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Aye, having every response to these opinions being "utter crap" or other well thought reasonable responses

That doesn’t make your point any more true. Folk disagree, just because they don’t articulate it well doesn’t mean they’re rounding on people.

[Hiber-nation]

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Basically all the teams bar Rangers are boring right now. Can we agree and just close the thread.

That's about the first time I've ever agreed with anything you've said on here 😀

[WhileTheChief..]

We’re happy to enough to use recent form when it’s positive so don’t see the problem with highlighting it when things aren’t so great.

[matty_f]

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We’re happy to enough to use recent form when it’s positive so don’t see the problem with highlighting it when things aren’t so great.

They’re no problem with it, the issue was calling us out as 9th in the form table when there were, i think, only 3 teams with more points than us in that table.

[Hibs90]

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Just nonsense all of it.

It's not.

[Since452]

Could be losing to the likes of Dunfermline and Alloa. I'll take boring

[Iggy Pope]

Tell you what. We were crap. But Mrs Pope told me to shut the **** up on at least four occasions in the first 20 minutes in case the neighbours were alerted to exactly how bored I was becoming.

[green day]

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Another well thought out response.

8th (misread my apologies) in form table for the last 6 games due to goal difference, 9 points out the last 6 games. 3 wins out of the last 10 which is almost a third of the season.

That's a fact, so I'm not sure how that can be utter crap. It's a downward trend at present.

I am afraid I have to pick you up on this. Form tables are based on points picked up over a specified number of matches, usually 6.

As I said to you yesterday, over these last 6 league games;
1st Rangers 18,
2nd Celtic 11,
3rd Motherwell 10,
4= Killie, St J, Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Hibs all on 9 points

Bit in bold? goal difference, in a form table?

[Carheenlea]

I think in the light of every fan viewing streams as opposed to attending in person has led to an element of over analysis of our performances and the boredom is more having to settle for this avenue of viewing rather than the ritual of following Hibs throughout the course of a season.

I’m not suggesting we have been scintillating to watch, but looking back at today for example, a League Cup tie at Easter Road after the disappointment of losing a late lead against Celtic and dropping points against St Johnstone we battle our way to a narrow win against Dundee in a performance that improved in the second half and books our spot in the quarters. The team would have received an ovation at the end and everyone going home happy. The message board chat would pick up an hour or so after full time after the spectators return home and would be both positive and negative as it usually is, but an element of feel good factor would be prevalent.

What we have now is folk viewing every game from home and passing comment during it and immediately as full time goes there are grumbles about our style of play. Sat in the armchair I think we are more demanding in order to get us excited watching our team. Sat in our seats in Easter Road I think we are more forgiving.

My frustration is more not getting to go Hibs every other week more so than at Jack Ross, his style of play or the players.

[superfurryhibby]

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I am afraid I have to pick you up on this. Form tables are based on points picked up over a specified number of matches, usually 6.

As I said to you yesterday, over these last 6 league games;
1st Rangers 18,
2nd Celtic 11,
3rd Motherwell 10,
4= Killie, St J, Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Hibs all on 9 points

Bit in bold? goal difference, in a form table?

I’d call it someone clutching at straws in a desperate attempt to over-egg the negative pudding myself. Goal difference, fur the luv ae christ.