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    He was mismanaged by Heckingbottom and should have been allowed to continue after that Rangers defeat, the whole team were gash not just him. By bombing him out on loan knocked his confidence and by doing this we brought Stevenson back far too early from injury, which meant he took months to get up to his usual standards.


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    I think he was guilty of taking his foot off the gas a bit last season after making his breakthrough the season before. This time round he appears to have given himself a foot up the erchie and now that he's got a chance with his fellow academy grad Doig fading a wee bit he's grabbed it with both hands.

    So well done Sean - and Josh! - look forward to some real competition for that left back slot going forward.

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    Thw boy done good yesterday. Frimpong got no change from him at all.
    Without detracting from Mackie’s hugely encouraging performance can I give a wee shout out to Murphy who worked his arse off down the left side too.

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    Played really well again tonight in a tough opponent in McNamara.

    Hes so quick, sharp and good on the ball.

    His first touch is always forward and he’s looking for that pass to the strikers, he bombs forward and when he gets there has real good quality.

    Delighted with his form and look forward to seeing him develop further.

    Well done Sean.
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    Played really well again tonight in a thought opponent in McNamara.

    Hes so quick, sharp and good on the ball.

    His first touch is always forward and he’s looking for that pass to the strikers, he bombs forward and when he gets there has real good quality.

    Delighted with his form and look forward to seeing him develop further.

    Well done Sean.
    Thought he was OK tonight - 6 out of 10....McNamara struggled more with Murphy who was buzzing out wide . More of an even battle vs Mackie ..

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    Played really well again tonight in a thought opponent in McNamara.

    Hes so quick, sharp and good on the ball.

    His first touch is always forward and he’s looking for that pass to the strikers, he bombs forward and when he gets there has real good quality.

    Delighted with his form and look forward to seeing him develop further.

    Well done Sean.
    I saw some criticism of him on the match thread but didn't see it myself.

    He played well.

    A stronger finish from Newell and he gets an outstanding assist tonight.

    Threatening going forward, solid at the back.

    Ok, the odd mistake in a team performance that wasn't vintage, but I thought he did well.

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    Played really well again tonight in a tough opponent in McNamara.

    Hes so quick, sharp and good on the ball.

    His first touch is always forward and he’s looking for that pass to the strikers, he bombs forward and when he gets there has real good quality.

    Delighted with his form and look forward to seeing him develop further.

    Well done Sean.
    His first touch almost always gave them the ball.


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    His first touch almost always gave them the ball.


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    Thought SM defended well tonight and yes at times he was heavy with the pass - helps if you have midfielders up the pitch (centrally) who offer more movement though. Got pass marks from me tonight.

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    His first touch almost always gave them the ball.


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    I must have been watching a different game. He wasn't perfect tonight, nobody was, but he's showing enough in his partnership with Murphy on the left to give me optimism it'll develop into a mainstay in the team

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    I’d prefer to develop Doig to be honest. Mackie still looks like he’s a bit over weight.

    I’m not a manager though so what do I know.


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    I’d prefer to develop Doig to be honest. Mackie still looks like he’s a bit over weight.

    I’m not a manager though so what do I know.


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    Doig definitely has a future with us but he's destined for a more central role. Happy to have 2 young players of their calibre

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    Doig definitely has a future with us but he's destined for a more central role. Happy to have 2 young players of their calibre
    Mackie part of a defence who have now conceded 4 in 2 games.

    Doig formed part of a back 4 that rarely conceded at the start of the year.

    Only change in personnel is left back.

    Whilst blame can not be directly attributed to Mackie, I know who I’d rather have playing.


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    Played really well again tonight in a tough opponent in McNamara.

    Hes so quick, sharp and good on the ball.

    His first touch is always forward and he’s looking for that pass to the strikers, he bombs forward and when he gets there has real good quality.

    Delighted with his form and look forward to seeing him develop further.

    Well done Sean.
    It's always good to see players Agents coming onto fans forums

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    Is have Mackie over Doig everyday at left back.

    The argument of conceding 4 in 2 games with Mackie doesn’t really stand for a lot when we conceded 2 against Aberdeen and Hearts the 2 games prior when Doig was playing.

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    Doig looks a better prospect in my opinion.

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    Doig looks a better prospect in my opinion.
    Doig is being lined up as Hanlon's replacement, Hanlon himself played LB in his early days, the lad needs to bulk up and at LB you can get away with it being a different position. Mackie did ok tonight, always looked to get on the front foot, a few times his decision making let him down but he was always positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC View Post
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    Mackie part of a defence who have now conceded 4 in 2 games.

    Doig formed part of a back 4 that rarely conceded at the start of the year.

    Only change in personnel is left back.

    Whilst blame can not be directly attributed to Mackie, I know who I’d rather have playing.


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    Very harsh when absolutely none of the goals can be attributed in any way to anything Mackie did or didn’t do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Very harsh when absolutely none of the goals can be attributed in any way to anything Mackie did or didn’t do.
    Sshh! how dare you bring logic onto this thread.

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    Very harsh when absolutely none of the goals can be attributed in any way to anything Mackie did or didn’t do.
    Did I not say that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC View Post
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    Did I not say that?


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    You did, but it doesn’t stand easily alongside the first 3 lines.

    You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m happy to accept he made mistakes. If you don’t like what you see over the piece, fine. He gave the ball away a few times when arguably shouldn’t have - you don’t like that, fine.

    I just don’t think it’s remotely fair to him to point out that we’ve lost goals since he came into the side - goals that were absolutely nothing to do with him.

    By all means be critical, but please be fair.

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    Very harsh when absolutely none of the goals can be attributed in any way to anything Mackie did or didn’t do.
    Absolutely spot on!!

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    Mackie part of a defence who have now conceded 4 in 2 games.

    Doig formed part of a back 4 that rarely conceded at the start of the year.

    Only change in personnel is left back.

    Whilst blame can not be directly attributed to Mackie, I know who I’d rather have playing.


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    Not one of the 4 goals conceded came from Mackies side of the pitch so really cant see your point in even mentioning him in this way.

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    Is have Mackie over Doig everyday at left back.

    The argument of conceding 4 in 2 games with Mackie doesn’t really stand for a lot when we conceded 2 against Aberdeen and Hearts the 2 games prior when Doig was playing.
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    Mackie might not be great but he’s head and shoulders above Doig. Mackie’s been decent in the last couple of games and started and finished both. Can’t honestly remember Doig finishing a game...
    Murphy looked more comfortable too. Like he’s trusts mackie a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC View Post
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    I’d prefer to develop Doig to be honest. Mackie still looks like he’s a bit over weight.

    I’m not a manager though so what do I know.


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    You did, but it doesn’t stand easily alongside the first 3 lines.

    You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m happy to accept he made mistakes. If you don’t like what you see over the piece, fine. He gave the ball away a few times when arguably shouldn’t have - you don’t like that, fine.

    I just don’t think it’s remotely fair to him to point out that we’ve lost goals since he came into the side - goals that were absolutely nothing to do with him.

    By all means be critical, but please be fair.
    I’m just stating facts. Doig was part of a very well organised defence that rarely conceded.

    Mackie is now part of a defence that is more porous. Ultimately he’ll be judged as part of that cohort, whether i think it’s ‘fine’ or not.

    I don’t think he, alongside many of his colleagues tonight were good enough. Beaten to too many loose balls and gave away possession too many times.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC View Post
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    I’m just stating facts. Doig was part of a very well organised defence that rarely conceded.

    Mackie is now part of a defence that is more porous. Ultimately he’ll be judged as part of that cohort, whether i think it’s ‘fine’ or not.

    I don’t think he, alongside many of his colleagues tonight were good enough. Beaten to too many loose balls and gave away possession too many times.


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    Yeah, that’s reasonable. I disagree, but that’s just opinion.

    FWIW I sort of thought the same on Saturday. We can point at the poor clearances that led to goals, and they were bad. There were several other poor clearances that didn’t lead to goals still invited pressure on us that led to the mistakes that led to the goals.

    I disagree re the LB position but I respect your opinion and the reasons behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    You did, but it doesn’t stand easily alongside the first 3 lines.

    You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m happy to accept he made mistakes. If you don’t like what you see over the piece, fine. He gave the ball away a few times when arguably shouldn’t have - you don’t like that, fine.

    I just don’t think it’s remotely fair to him to point out that we’ve lost goals

    since he came into the side - goals that were absolutely nothing to do with him.

    By all means be critical, but please be fair.
    It’s always difficult with young players Doig came in and was a breath of fresh air in terms of offering a good attacking option up the wing. Yes as games progressed his defensive game was shown to need a bit of improving. So as young guys do he hit a dip in performance. I always thought Mackie was worth a chance and he had a decent game against Celtic. But nobody could say he had a good game tonight. He gave the ball away on several occasions and fell short of what I hoped for. But again a young laddie with ability and between him and Doig hopefully one will come good. Good prospects and fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthNorfolkHFC View Post
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    Mackie part of a defence who have now conceded 4 in 2 games.

    Doig formed part of a back 4 that rarely conceded at the start of the year.

    Only change in personnel is left back.

    Whilst blame can not be directly attributed to Mackie, I know who I’d rather have playing.


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    Hanlon was missing from that same back 4 that conceded 2 tonight so your point of fact is incorrect. One of the other two goals was a debatable hand ball penalty. He had no part in.
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    Mackie might not be great but he’s head and shoulders above Doig. Mackie’s been decent in the last couple of games and started and finished both. Can’t honestly remember Doig finishing a game...
    Murphy looked more comfortable too. Like he’s trusts mackie a bit more.


    Both excellent young players. Doig has just turned 18 (I think maybe 19) and Mackie is 22. They will both make mistakes but fans who want youth to flourish have to be reasonable in that they will make mistakes. Mackie was not at fault for any of the 4 goals and I can't think of young Josh being at fault either in his 10 or so games. These guys need time. Not to be written off after a handful of games.

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    Thought Mackie played well in the St. J and Dundee games. Whilst not sure about his defensive qualities, I thought he did well going forward getting into the opposition box many times and putting in some good crosses.

    I'm pretty sure that he won't be the long-term replacement for Lewis, but he's impressed me in an under-performing team.

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