Celtic supporter on Hibs

[LaMotta]

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We are ‘defined by an obsession with Hearts’. That won’t go down well

Its actually quite well written and researched, but then goes off and becomes about his opinions. Harry Swan a dictator? I think he needs some evidence there.

"Well researched" is not a phrase that should be attributed to that article.

A quick skim read and its riddled with inaccuracies, from 1874 reference, to claiming they stole Mowbray from us ( they got him from West Brom), to claiming Hibs fans have ever sung about dead cats or that we currently share rebel songs with them.

[Jones28]

I’ve never read so much *****. Complete and utter ****ing nonsense.

[superfurryhibby]

To save anyone reading this gash. Here’s a flavour of how much rubbish is in it.

Gets the date of our formation wrong, saying 1874.

Dismisses the story about Celtic poaching our players and mentions this taking place in 1890-91.
In fact Celtic’s first ever league game in 1888, they fielded 5 players poached from Hibs and were soon to be joined by another group, including the Maley bothers. All Induced by the money on offer.

He talks about Edinburgh being far from a football city.

Hibs fans are jealous of Celtic’s success .

Hibs share Celtic’s anti establishment stance ( ignoring of the current ownership of CFC) and we share some of their paranoia.

Some ridic anecdote about having dinner with posh Hibs family from Granton they don’t really like football but they seem to be Hibs fans and react to Mercer’s takeover with the cry of “that man shall never have our club” comparing this the more profane reaction had they been weegies.

Hibs banned the tv cameras from ER when Celtic won the league there in 1977, out of spite because we’ve always been bitter ( ignoring the ongoing Bukta row with the BBC and Tom Hart).

We share some of their rebel songs...funny that because I’ve not heard on at ER since the 80’s.

We are the poor man’s Celtic.

We sing a song about them eating dead CATS and raking buckets and that would affront the memory of James Connolly ( who in his over stimulated imaginings can converted ( his word) to being a Celtic supporter- he does admit this was made up, lol).

We are bitter about our regular failed ventures into the transfer market, bottle cup finals and semi finals, and are characterised by mediocrity.

In summary, the article is a loadae poorly informed, cliche ridden, stinking pish. The patronising haverings of a deluded weegie glory hunting fud who probably doesn’t even go to matches.

How any Hibs fan on her can seriously give any credibility to this kind of pish is even weirder than the article itself

[Eyrie]

I've never sung about Celtc fans eating dead cats. I've always sung about them eating dead rats because they think it's a treat.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Even the fact that (according to him) we are their “second favourite team” makes me feel a wee bit dirty

[Fanforlife]

Regarding the Connelly, Irish,Swan flag illusion this has been done to death and every time has been proven to be a load of Celtic nonsense, perhaps one of these days one of them will get it right,wont hold my breath for that happening though.GGTTH

[NAE NOOKIE]

Oh so typical from the Celtc angle. Self entitled patronising crap which as usual comes from a mindset which can't comprehend the idea that dislike of Celtic can be held for any other reason other than jealousy ... so if our friend dips in here for a look at his feedback from a Hibs angle, here's mine:

Getting a clubs foundation date wrong is not the best start to a piece about any club.

Fans of other clubs don't like Celtic because:

A) ... They buy their best players, which is fine, but then follow that up by moaning about a lack of competition.
B) ... They outspend their rivals by 100/1 both in transfer fees and wages and then moan about teams playing defensively against them.
C) ... They claim to have 'the best fans in the world' who we all watch drift away whenever they hit an infrequent bad patch, EG and heaven forbid, a whole season without a trophy.
D) ... Half of their 'support' is drawn from towns around Scotland with their own professional clubs and they have the cheek to claim their away support 'subsidise' the clubs they pinch that support from.
E) ... They are the biggest copycats in football .... Copied our colours, adopted as their own an anthem that belongs to a bigger and better club, copied an idea from a Polish club with 'the Poznan' and even stole Barcelona's tag line of 'more than just a club' .... none of that is unusual in football, but hardly backs their claim to be special in any way.
F) ... They make great play of their bitter rivalry with Rangers, but that never stops them teaming up with them when it comes to carving up the financial spoils to the detriment of everybody else.

You could maybe forgive all that, but if you are a Hibby, but what trumps all of it, the cherry on the cake, what makes them so unlikable from a Hibby's point of view is the way they patronise us. We are not their 'wee brothers' ... second clubs are either the club from your home town, or a club in another country, not another club in the same league you like because you have some half baked idea about a shared identity that stopped being relevant decades ago, if it ever really was ... and 99.9% of Hibbies would never tolerate our club tweeting a good luck message to 'both teams' before a vital international qualifier, even if the other team was the Republic of Ireland.

So if you are reading this dear author I can honestly say, from the very bottom of my heart, you and Celtc can both kiss my arse

[brog]

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It's good to see the 'we were first to wear the green' song annoys them. The attempt to dismiss it just proves that.

Truth be told I probably am jealous of Celtic's success, as I am that of Rangers, Liverpool or Real Madrid. Their sense of insecurity and annoyance that they are irrevocably unoriginal outweighs that tenfold though.

We were first to wear the green/hoops undoubtedly annoys them but I prefer the unequivocal, 'if it wasn't for the Hibees you'd be Huns'. That guarantees apoplexy!!

[Kato]

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F) ... They make great play of their bitter rivalry with Rangers, but that never stops them teaming up with them when it comes to carving up the financial spoils to the detriment of everybody else.

They aren't called The Old Firm by accident. Always in cahoots.

Both clubs have consciously used sectarianism to financially dope their way through decades of Scottish football.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Oh so typical from the Celtc angle. Self entitled patronising crap which as usual comes from a mindset which can't comprehend the idea that dislike of Celtic can be held for any other reason other than jealousy ... so if our friend dips in here for a look at his feedback from a Hibs angle, here's mine:

Getting a clubs foundation date wrong is not the best start to a piece about any club.

Fans of other clubs don't like Celtic because:

A) ... They buy their best players, which is fine, but then follow that up by moaning about a lack of competition.
B) ... They outspend their rivals by 100/1 both in transfer fees and wages and then moan about teams playing defensively against them.
C) ... They claim to have 'the best fans in the world' who we all watch drift away whenever they hit an infrequent bad patch, EG and heaven forbid, a whole season without a trophy.
D) ... Half of their 'support' is drawn from towns around Scotland with their own professional clubs and they have the cheek to claim their away support 'subsidise' the clubs they pinch that support from.
E) ... They are the biggest copycats in football .... Copied our colours, adopted as their own an anthem that belongs to a bigger and better club, copied an idea from a Polish club with 'the Poznan' and even stole Barcelona's tag line of 'more than just a club' .... none of that is unusual in football, but hardly backs their claim to be special in any way.
F) ... They make great play of their bitter rivalry with Rangers, but that never stops them teaming up with them when it comes to carving up the financial spoils to the detriment of everybody else.

You could maybe forgive all that, but if you are a Hibby, but what trumps all of it, the cherry on the cake, what makes them so unlikable from a Hibby's point of view is the way they patronise us. We are not their 'wee brothers' ... second clubs are either the club from your home town, or a club in another country, not another club in the same league you like because you have some half baked idea about a shared identity that stopped being relevant decades ago, if it ever really was ... and 99.9% of Hibbies would never tolerate our club tweeting a good luck message to 'both teams' before a vital international qualifier, even if the other team was the Republic of Ireland.

So if you are reading this dear author I can honestly say, from the very bottom of my heart, you and Celtc can both kiss my arse

they copied more than our colours from us

[Carheenlea]

Celtic fans can`t seem to understand the difference between people hating their club and people simply not caring about their club.

I dont hate them, but have no interest and care little for them. Same goes for pretty much every other club other than Hibs. Not going to lie though - I do hate Hearts.

[vercol36]

Surely, if anything, they are our wee brothers...seeing as they're younger?

[Davy Mac]

Aye, jealousy is a terrible thing.

We no who we are and where we came from, they can never take away our history so tough titties.

[Hillsidehibby]

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Celtic fans can`t seem to understand the difference between people hating their club and people simply not caring about their club.

I dont hate them, but have no interest and care little for them. Same goes for pretty much every other club other than Hibs. Not going to lie though - I do hate Hearts.

Me too.
I have to say I have spent a lot of time in Glasgow working and socialising with a lot of Celtic men. They do only see things from their side of the fence but they do really like Hibs

[weecounty hibby]

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Me too.
I have to say I have spent a lot of time in Glasgow working and socialising with a lot of Celtic men. They do only see things from their side of the fence but they do really like Hibs

I would rather they didn't! I do t like celtic or their fans as a group. Would rather not be patronised by them. So much that is fake about them but they firmly believe it's all true. Not an original idea has ever come from that club

[EI255]

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Condescending weegie guff. “Hibs supporters came out in their masses from the grim Leith tenements”... a bit rich considering the state of a lot of Celtic fans.

If Leith is grim then what the hell is Gallowgate?!!!!!!

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[Hillsidehibby]

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I would rather they didn't! I do t like celtic or their fans as a group. Would rather not be patronised by them. So much that is fake about them but they firmly believe it's all true. Not an original idea has ever come from that club

I hear you but we all like what we like. As I said I spent quite a while in there world. Never once did I feel patronised or was called a fenian barsteward

[ABZHFC]

Pure dead brilliant article from that Weegie fud

[NAE NOOKIE]

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I would rather they didn't! I do t like celtic or their fans as a group. Would rather not be patronised by them. So much that is fake about them but they firmly believe it's all true. Not an original idea has ever come from that club

That's the biggest bugbear for me ..... The 2013 cup final was the bloody worst, on the way out of Hampden at least twice I had Celtic fans going 'never mind wee man, you'll win it next year' .... bloody infuriating, give me the honesty of a piss taking Hun than a patronising Tim any day of the week.

[superfurryhibby]

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That's the biggest bugbear for me ..... The 2013 cup final was the bloody worst, on the way out of Hampden at least twice I had Celtic fans going 'never mind wee man, you'll win it next year' .... bloody infuriating, give me the honesty of a piss taking Hun than a patronising Tim any day of the week.

The difference is that the piss taking Hun will also want tae rip yer jaw.

[weecounty hibby]

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The difference is that the piss taking Hun will also want tae rip yer jaw.

I honestly don't get where this myth has come from that there has never been any bother between Hibs and Celtic fans. I have seen loads of trouble both at Easter Road and in Glasgow. The hun are worse but the don't think Celtic are too far behind

[Keith_M]

Honestly, why does anybody even care?

[Brizo]

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I dont know that there is a right answer as such, particularly now where people move around a lot more, but i always think of Leith (and overspill in north Edinburgh) and the southside (and its overspill) as being where Hibs support was concentrated, traditionally.

And of course, Hibs support for the first 50 - 75 years of the clubs existence was very concetrated in the old town and southside, and in Leith (basically where the irish immigrants had settled in the 19th century).

My own experience of growing up Southside in the 60s and 70s was that even then it was mainly Hibs and then lesser greens. When we were moved to Inch more of a 50/50 with a lot of Celtc having Irish parents. All changed now of course as people are far more socially mobile than they were even a couple of generations ago.

As for the article same old same old. Read it all before. Poorly researched with the usual inaccuracies, false assumptions, and stereotyping.

[jacomo]

As others have said, it’s glib, condescending rubbish. A ludicrous waste of time for anyone who read it, let alone the moron who wrote it.

Good luck with 10IAR, losers.

[brog]

[QUOTE=Brizo;6361730]My own experience of growing up Southside in the 60s and 70s was that even then it was mainly Hibs and then lesser greens. When we were moved to Inch more of a 50/50 with a lot of Celtc having Irish parents. All changed now of course as people are far more socially mobile than they were even a couple of generations ago.

Agree with all, especially about Southside. The Southern Branch bus used to leave from Prestonfield Ave & King Pat wasn't nicknamed Niddrie by accident. As for many a Celtc supporter, their arrogance is closely matched by their

[Since90+2]

When people say the soutside what areas are you they refering to?

[superfurryhibby]

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I honestly don't get where this myth has come from that there has never been any bother between Hibs and Celtic fans. I have seen loads of trouble both at Easter Road and in Glasgow. The hun are worse but the don't think Celtic are too far behind

The few times I’ve had bother before or after the football have all been with the Hun, in Edinburgh and in the Weege. So it’s based on my experience.

[Brightside]

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When people say the soutside what areas are you they refering to?

South side is bruntsfield. I’ve never been aware of a big footballing population up there!

[superbam]

It's tedious pish at the stage, been recycled so many times with the same tired tropes and ahistorical cliches that the more enlightened among their support have long disowned. The giveaway about the type of celtic fan that writes this pish is the characterizing of Edinburgh (Granton in this case) as "genteel", a bizarre stereotype I've only encountered among the most self reverential middle class Glaswegians.

[The Count]

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South side is bruntsfield. I’ve never been aware of a big footballing population up there!

Dont get mixed up with that cretin Kitchen calling his Bruntsfield restaurant Southside.Bruntsfield aint the Southside of Edinburgh.