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    (NHC) Wrexham take over

    Just interested in views on this. 2 multi millionaire actors are taking over Wrexham who play in the National League and pledged £2 million to make them global competitors. I live in Carlisle and I would be surprised if £2 million gets them even in to their league. Good on them but think they might need to invest a bit more than that ? Big ambitions or am I being harsh ?i think what they are doing is great as club is currently in fans ownership and probably need funding in current situation


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    What one is playing Craig Whyte and which one Charles Green?

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    What one is playing Craig Whyte and which one Charles Green?
    Ha ha - good one !

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    What is there game here? I've seen a bit about it but unclear on there motivations.

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    They talk about global force and restoring days of glory and Wrexham fans viewing their club like Man United fans view their club. This is what I just don't get for £2 million. We perhaps criticise Ron for his investment but we never thought we would be challenging with the top guns !

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    They’ve clearly underestimated the level of finance required to build a football team from the ground up. I was very surprised that they’re spending as little as that.

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    They’ve clearly underestimated the level of finance required to build a football team from the ground up. I was very surprised that they’re spending as little as that.
    If it gets them out the national league they’ve promised to spend more. Look how Salford have spent as a benchmark and now they’re struggling. I don’t think they’re that naive tbh.

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    They talk about global force and restoring days of glory and Wrexham fans viewing their club like Man United fans view their club. This is what I just don't get for £2 million. We perhaps criticise Ron for his investment but we never thought we would be challenging with the top guns !
    They will spend what they need to climb a league. What’s the point in pumping £50m in right away in all honesty.

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    They will spend what they need to climb a league. What’s the point in pumping £50m in right away in all honesty.
    I totally get that but it is a big statement to come out with for a modest investment. If they are talking big time then what does even £50 million get you ? John McGinn and his 2 brothers maybe ? Just joking of course but puts it in to perspective if they are quoting Man United type aspirations. Just think they are raising hopes of Wrexham fans to a level an awful long way away from them and would be more credence if they said a return to league football was their goal

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    I'd be very suspicious if I were a Wrexham fan. Giving up fan ownership to a couple of guys with no connection to the club or area? The amount they're saying they'll put in will probably get them up a division or two but what happens when they tire of their toy?

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    I'd be very suspicious if I were a Wrexham fan. Giving up fan ownership to a couple of guys with no connection to the club or area? The amount they're saying they'll put in will probably get them up a division or two but what happens when they tire of their toy?
    Exactly and why I am asking the question . I just dont get it. Get a Dubai millionionare putting in tens of millions with that statement but £2 million ?

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    How much does it cost to climb a league or 2 at that level in England? Would £2M be enough?

    We have seen the money the likes of Hearts have thrown at trying to get on a level with Celtic and how much it has cost Rangers to claw themselves back to that level. They have 2 cups, an administration and a liquidation between them out of it.

    Different levels obviously but buying success costs a shed load of money in football.

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    Good luck to them. Foreign ownership is not unusual now and we have it ourselves. They’ve made their money from acting primarily although I’m sure both have successful production companies and so on too. I think there’s just a bit more comment because of their profession.

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    Their ‘mission statement’ seems sensible enough?

    To the supporters, staff, players, friends and family of Wrexham AFC:

    We’re two people who’ve made a career of never taking ourselves too seriously. However, we realise taking stewardship of this great and storied club is an incredibly serious matter and something we don’t take lightly. With that in mind, we wanted to take you through our Goal, Principles and Promises.

    Our Goal

    Our goal is to grow the team, return it to the EFL in front of increased attendances at an improved stadium while making a positive difference to the wider community in Wrexham.

    Guiding Principles

    If permitted, we’d chase that goal guided by four essential principles.

    1. To protect the heritage that has made Wrexham AFC and the Racecourse Ground such a special place to watch football for the last 156 years.

    2. To reinforce the values, traditions and legacy of this community. We understand and respect the intense loyalty and love for this club and how it’s woven into the fabric of the town and its supporters.

    3. To use our resources to grow the exposure of the club. Of course, this would be in concert with protecting the heart and spirit of a community-led historical icon. But why can't the third oldest club in the world have a global appeal?

    4. To reward the faith of the supporters who have stood by Wrexham AFC through its history by putting everything we have towards what all fans want most for their club, and that is to...

    WIN, WIN, WIN.

    Everything we do will be informed by these four principles and never one without the other. We want to be part of Wrexham's story, not drag the club into ours.

    Hard Promises

    Provide comprehensive financial support for the manager and his coaching team. Build a sustainable model which will attract the best players and best staff to the Racecourse Ground.

    Always beat Chester.*

    Explore the renovation of the Racecourse Ground and improve the venue for the club, for International matches and perhaps, the occasional Tom Jones gig.

    Invest in a permanent training facility that is worthy of an EFL club.

    Guarantee the club cannot be relocated, renamed or rebranded. Appropriate and respectful observance of the Gresford Colliery Disaster will remain sacrosanct.

    Recognising the role fans and the WST have played in stewarding the club through extremely difficult times, we will create an honorary board that includes fans, representatives of the WST and WAFC alongside our own advisors.

    Ensure the continued presence of Dixie McNeil as the club's honorary President, subject to his desire.

    Always beat Chester.*

    Expand club staff to take advantage of increased interest in Wrexham, both locally and internationally.

    Recognise and reinforce Wrexham AFC's role as a leading force for community good in the town. Work with the Club’s Disability Liaison Officer, Kerry Evans to retain and enhance Wrexham’s reputation as an inclusive and forward-thinking club, alongside other important local groups such as the Racecourse Community Foundation, food banks and schools.

    Commit to a more ecologically-sustainable version of the club and stadium.

    Commit to transparent decision making with regular and open communication.

    Ensure that when the day comes that we leave the Club, it will be in a better position than it is today.

    ALWAYS BEAT CHESTER.*

    Under any other circumstance, we’d be in Wrexham right now, touring the Racecourse Ground, having a pint with supporters in person. But 2020 has other plans for us all. We hope you'll put your trust in us, because we’ll work every day, for as long as you'll have us, to ensure the world knows that Wrexham is the name.

    *If we ever play Chester again.

    Rob and Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Their ‘mission statement’ seems sensible enough?

    To the supporters, staff, players, friends and family of Wrexham AFC:

    We’re two people who’ve made a career of never taking ourselves too seriously. However, we realise taking stewardship of this great and storied club is an incredibly serious matter and something we don’t take lightly. With that in mind, we wanted to take you through our Goal, Principles and Promises.

    Our Goal

    Our goal is to grow the team, return it to the EFL in front of increased attendances at an improved stadium while making a positive difference to the wider community in Wrexham.

    Guiding Principles

    If permitted, we’d chase that goal guided by four essential principles.

    1. To protect the heritage that has made Wrexham AFC and the Racecourse Ground such a special place to watch football for the last 156 years.

    2. To reinforce the values, traditions and legacy of this community. We understand and respect the intense loyalty and love for this club and how it’s woven into the fabric of the town and its supporters.

    3. To use our resources to grow the exposure of the club. Of course, this would be in concert with protecting the heart and spirit of a community-led historical icon. But why can't the third oldest club in the world have a global appeal?

    4. To reward the faith of the supporters who have stood by Wrexham AFC through its history by putting everything we have towards what all fans want most for their club, and that is to...

    WIN, WIN, WIN.

    Everything we do will be informed by these four principles and never one without the other. We want to be part of Wrexham's story, not drag the club into ours.

    Hard Promises

    Provide comprehensive financial support for the manager and his coaching team. Build a sustainable model which will attract the best players and best staff to the Racecourse Ground.

    Always beat Chester.*

    Explore the renovation of the Racecourse Ground and improve the venue for the club, for International matches and perhaps, the occasional Tom Jones gig.

    Invest in a permanent training facility that is worthy of an EFL club.

    Guarantee the club cannot be relocated, renamed or rebranded. Appropriate and respectful observance of the Gresford Colliery Disaster will remain sacrosanct.

    Recognising the role fans and the WST have played in stewarding the club through extremely difficult times, we will create an honorary board that includes fans, representatives of the WST and WAFC alongside our own advisors.

    Ensure the continued presence of Dixie McNeil as the club's honorary President, subject to his desire.

    Always beat Chester.*

    Expand club staff to take advantage of increased interest in Wrexham, both locally and internationally.

    Recognise and reinforce Wrexham AFC's role as a leading force for community good in the town. Work with the Club’s Disability Liaison Officer, Kerry Evans to retain and enhance Wrexham’s reputation as an inclusive and forward-thinking club, alongside other important local groups such as the Racecourse Community Foundation, food banks and schools.

    Commit to a more ecologically-sustainable version of the club and stadium.

    Commit to transparent decision making with regular and open communication.

    Ensure that when the day comes that we leave the Club, it will be in a better position than it is today.

    ALWAYS BEAT CHESTER.*

    Under any other circumstance, we’d be in Wrexham right now, touring the Racecourse Ground, having a pint with supporters in person. But 2020 has other plans for us all. We hope you'll put your trust in us, because we’ll work every day, for as long as you'll have us, to ensure the world knows that Wrexham is the name.

    *If we ever play Chester again.

    Rob and Ryan
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    Let's see where it goes

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    Right, that’s Chester my new English team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h18eeynick View Post
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    They talk about global force and restoring days of glory and Wrexham fans viewing their club like Man United fans view their club. This is what I just don't get for £2 million. We perhaps criticise Ron for his investment but we never thought we would be challenging with the top guns !
    Speak for yourself. Gordon has made it quite clear that he wants Hibs to be competitive at the top level. I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballengeich View Post
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    I'd be very suspicious if I were a Wrexham fan. Giving up fan ownership to a couple of guys with no connection to the club or area? The amount they're saying they'll put in will probably get them up a division or two but what happens when they tire of their toy?
    It all sounds a bit like a soccer version of 'Trading Places' but without Jamie Lee getting her knockers out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h18eeynick View Post
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    They talk about global force and restoring days of glory and Wrexham fans viewing their club like Man United fans view their club. This is what I just don't get for £2 million. We perhaps criticise Ron for his investment but we never thought we would be challenging with the top guns !

    Restoring days of glory? I must have blinked and missed that.

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    If I was a Wrexham fan I’d be delighted that any kind of involvement could potentially improve my club, I would also realistically be aware that it doesn't mean that the team will race through the divisions reaching premier league status anytime soon, good luck to them.

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    Their Twitter post must make the sponsors very happy!

    https://news.sky.com/story/wrexham-r...ssing-12134040
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    I tell you now, if this statement had been what Ron said when buying hibs then most if not all fans would have fallen in love straight away.... I’m not saying Ron approached the purchase any differently and I’m sure his intentions are the same as these two Hollywood stars I’m just pointing out what a great statement they’ve made... they’ve certainly peaked my interest and I don’t follow Wrexham in the slightest.

    Good luck to them.

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    I find it hard to believe Wrexham havent been a league club since 2008. Where does time go?

    I think back in the 70s when Welsh Clubs playing in the football league could still represent Wales in Europe through winning the Welsh Cup, they had a few good results in the old cup winners cup, got to the quarter finals one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Key West View Post
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    If I was a Wrexham fan I’d be delighted that any kind of involvement could potentially improve my club, I would also realistically be aware that it doesn't mean that the team will race through the divisions reaching premier league status anytime soon, good luck to them.

    I agree. They seem sensible enough and they do have a lot of money. Seems like it’s the history and longevity of the club that hooked them (and North Americans love a bit of heritage).

    Cash flow is often the issue, especially lower down the pyramid. £2m, spent wisely, could go a long way and create a platform for them to get back in the league and build from there.

    The problem is, they’ve just invited every unscrupulous character in football to get in touch. They need strong resolve to sift through all the chancers and dodgy agents who will now be approaching them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Exile View Post
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    Right, that’s Chester my new English team.
    Mon the Wrexham.

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    £2m a drop in the ocean in UK football. Might possibly see them competing for their place back in L2, won't do much more.

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    £2m a drop in the ocean in UK football. Might possibly see them competing for their place back in L2, won't do much more.

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    I think Carlisle pay not much less than Hibs to players so £2 million doesnt go far hence my original post about Wrexhams ambitions.

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    Right, that’s Chester my new English team.
    As a Hibs ST holder who's been a Chester fan for 40 years, I'm not sure this is the path I could recommend. That said, I've a whole bunch of cross border derby memories to look back on (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-border_derby). Feisty affairs. Obviously I mostly remember the ones we won.

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