With the great news we got yesterday, and with the imminent arrival of a vaccine, where does this leave us, with getting back into see our team
From what I can gather, the elderly and vulnerable with get the vaccine 1st, think at my age I’m no 8 on the list, and as it stands I believe, nothing planned for the under 50’s
So what are the chances of getting in, say in Feb, with vaccines and mass testing in Scotland’s cities
Would be something to look forward too!
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10-11-2020 12:24 PM #1
Vaccine and the return of Fans to Football
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10-11-2020 12:38 PM #3
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I reckon, based on no evidence, that we might get decent crowd's by May but only partial attendances before that. Still feels like we have a long way to go before 'normal'.
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10-11-2020 12:41 PM #4
It’s very difficult to know. It is really positive news.
I think the vaccine strategy will be fascinating. Based on a two jab, two visit requirement and a vaccine held at -80 degrees, the logistical challenges of rolling it out are massive. Each doctors surgery would need to have the right skills and appropriate equipment (freezer) to make it work. Unless they decide to deploy via say the army, via walk in centers etc?
I am not convinced anyone under 50 who is healthy will get a vaccine in 2021, maybe 2022 or later.
So where does that leave us? Less deaths as older more vulnerable are protected but just as many infections until we reach a point of enough people vaccinated to stop the spread - over 60%?
Does it become a choice/cost thing? Eg family can pay for private, skip the queue and then protect themselves?
And to football, I can only see fans on reasonable numbers eg 7k+ at ER happening once vaccine ramp up well underway and if we are at tier 1 for infection levels. I cant see a situation where we can have full crowds back until we have infection rate down to minimal an vaccines for the majority. That could be well into next season.
What it should do from Q2 next year is open up travel, holidays, more socialising etc. does your new extended bubble become those that have had the vaccine? Or do new 15 min covid home tests become the norm before being let into heavily populated areas?
So for me it feels like Vaccine is a major factor but also will far more testing and easily accessed immediate testing and with additional drugs to help with those that become more unwell.Last edited by Col2; 10-11-2020 at 12:43 PM.
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10-11-2020 12:59 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not quite as bad on this point. The vaccine needs stored at -80 but is defrosted before being administered. It's usable for 5 days from defrost with normal refrigeration. So GPs shouldn't need anything other than normal fridges.
Hopefully we'll also have the Oxford/AZ vaccine soon, which doesn't need the deep freeze.
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10-11-2020 01:24 PM #7
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10-11-2020 12:42 PM #8
Really hope this is a game changer and we can return to as close as normal sooner rather than later. Be good if you got proof that you've had the vaccine in case anti vaxers (not my business to judge), put a spanner in the works
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10-11-2020 12:44 PM #9
I'm confident in the vaccine for no reason other than what I've seen on the news, but I'm also very aware that football will probably be quite low on the list of priorities. I'm not sure if we will even have full crowds back in next year, it depends how quickly the government decide to give the contract to Serco for them to **** it up.
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10-11-2020 02:29 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Does it stop you from getting COVID or stop you being ill with it? Can you get it still and pass it on - even if you are protected?
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So, your thought about proof is already being considered. Personally it makes sense to me.
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Young folk will be left to risk illness for the economy as per.
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10-11-2020 12:49 PM #18
I still think this season is largely a write off as far as any great numbers getting into games goes.
We may get a few test events with increasing numbers by late April/early May but I think the big return, full house, Sunshine on Leith moment is for next season.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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10-11-2020 01:03 PM #20
I cannot see anything happening this season. Distributing and administrating billions of vaccine doses will take a good length of time. We will probably see preparations for next season being 'back to normal' as long as the venerable and elderly get it first but it could be further into the season before we get back to a packed Easter Road. Personally I am going to do my best to forget this season even happened as this has really kicked the brown stuff out of my mental health. I never realised how important it was to me to travel to games every week, the camaraderie on the bus, the collective shouldering of bad results and the elation of good results. It has not been the same, the football is not the same, it is soulless without fans there.
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10-11-2020 06:22 PM #22
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Can't see vaccine helping this season at all, 4 million vaccines halfed as you need 2 doses, then given to the elderly, NHS and carers first, that will be the 2 million used up.
With the time scale given, that takes us to the middle of January!
By they go down in 5 year segments to the 50's, it will be well into next season before everyone has been vaccinated.
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We won't be back at ER in anything more than test numbers until next season.
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10-11-2020 01:44 PM #25
I'd personally write this season off. Hopefully we might start seeing some crowds returning soon after the start of next season.
I think full houses are probably unlikely until well into next season.
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10-11-2020 02:39 PM #26
Eh, whats with the aggressive tone? The reason I said about proof is it may persuade the authorities to allow people back in.
Why are you so bothered?
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My first point about proof - why would it be needed at all. If it works and one has it, then there is no need to worry about others not having it.
Second point was just questions about the vaccine - not aimed at you. Should have said 'one' instead of 'you'.
I'm thinking it is all a bit rushed (and a little convenient seeing how the US election is (possibly) over).
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10-11-2020 04:55 PM #29
Not fussed for this season but feeling quite optimistic now that we will all take our seats for the start of next season in August.
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10-11-2020 05:01 PM #30
Personally I'm not that bothered now, I get it that some folk want back yesterday, but I can wait now and if its next season then so be it.
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