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10-11-2020 06:39 PM #31Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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10-11-2020 06:48 PM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Roll out expected to start by Christmas, if all goes well, and take months from there. Doesn’t meet my definition of imminent.
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10-11-2020 07:03 PM #33
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10-11-2020 07:13 PM #34This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-11-2020 07:52 PM #35
Once the vulnerable are protected, surely the rest of us can just take our chances.
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10-11-2020 07:59 PM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The crowds will be back with a vengeance, once allowed back in and I’ll be right at the front . Cannie wait 🤞SCOTTISH CUP WINNERS 2016
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10-11-2020 09:08 PM #37
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10-11-2020 09:18 PM #38
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10-11-2020 09:34 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-11-2020 08:02 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-11-2020 08:23 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For football, allowing entry into games will probably take an informed risk taking approach. Informed no doubt by the levels of vaccinations and prevalence of infections whether indicated by mass rapid or symptom driven testing. Spring will help by reducing inside gatherings and hopefully will bring into play other vaccination candidates that are available in greater dose numbers and perhaps without some of the logistic challenges of the current great *white hope (though it’s mRNA approach offers exciting potential for vaccine development in future). *other shades are available
I’m looking optimistically at the hope of a first big crowd in the sun in May and then getting my dual flu/COVID jab in autumn with crowds all back to normal. But don’t wake me up yet it’s a nice dream.
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12-11-2020 08:04 AM #43
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Not one of those who's anti vaccine... But it takes at least 10 years to test a vaccine and for the side affects to take place this has been made in 8months. Not to mention the company Pfizer have paid the highest compensation ever seen in a court of law for disruption of deadly vaccines.
It will come but we can't rush this and this to me looks very dangerous
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12-11-2020 09:03 AM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The world doesn’t have at least 10 years to wait for this, all reasonable precautions must be taken, but some of the rules and regulations about bringing medicines to the market are designed to protect the interests of Big Pharmaceuticals
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12-11-2020 09:09 AM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
To say definitely that it takes at least 10years to produce and test a vaccine, because historically it did, is at best unhelpful misinformation. In contrast the WHO https://www.who.int/news/item/06-08-...s-and-timeline say it takes 6 months to produce a vaccine when a new type A or B flu virus is identified. As this is a novel SARS virus there is a whole front end missing from that production line example as it were, so it would also be misinformation to say they should produce a COVID vaccine in 6 months.
But science and medical knowledge is built up on what is already known and the pandemic has concentrated minds and attracted unprecedented resources to come up with new approaches and move on from what was apparently little changed from what Jenner identified. There is a lot of money to be made for the companies that get it right and safety will be paramount as there is a lot to be lost if they get it wrong. Safety is also paramount for society and governments it has to be. Getting back to normal may require sufficient uptake of vaccination and spreading trump like unfounded doubts is not helpful to anyone.
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12-11-2020 09:11 AM #46
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90% effective eh? How do you know you're ok, putting what equates to the population of scotland at risk of still getting the virus in the uk.... how many have been infected so far in uk 1%.... effective rate needs to be higher..
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12-11-2020 09:17 AM #47This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If a 90%-effective vaccine was widely rolled out, the R number would plummet. It's simply not accurate to say that the remaining 10% would be at risk in the way people are currently at risk of getting Covid.
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12-11-2020 10:03 AM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think you are misunderstanding statistics and risk here.
Key thing is to stop transmission of the disease to those who are vulnerable. This is what the lockdowns have been about. If those vulnerable groups are 90% less likely to suffer from Covid, it is a game changer.
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