Greatest player of all time?

[AgentDaleCooper]

Can we not agree that ronaldo scored the most goal in competitive matches?

[Since90+2]

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Can we not agree that ronaldo scored the most goal in competitive matches?

Would be the most sensible way to put it.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Diego the greatest.

https://twitter.com/GrizzKhan/status...16293643563009

mEsSi iS fOuLeD jUsT aS mUcH aS mArAdONA

Maradona wasn't fouled enough to get away with scoring less than half of Messis goals. An extra 400 goals or the guy who got fouled a bit more? Hard choice.

[Magpie]

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I think Messi is the best player I have ever seen, although it does not make him the best player ever, nobody can say that, it will only ever be an opinion.

I agree, the best for me too.

[calumhibee1]

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Diego the greatest.

https://twitter.com/GrizzKhan/status...16293643563009

mEsSi iS fOuLeD jUsT aS mUcH aS mArAdONA

I would be willing to bet every penny I have that Messi has been fouled a hell of a lot more than Maradona was.

https://youtu.be/KJH-UDa6G8A

[calumhibee1]

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Maradona wasn't fouled enough to get away with scoring less than half of Messis goals. An extra 400 goals or the guy who got fouled a bit more? Hard choice.

Maradona also never managed to even get into the top 3 of the ballon d’or. Ever.

Messi has won it 6 times and been in the top 3 12 of the last 13 years.

[Since90+2]

If the personalities of Messi and Ronaldo were switched do people think Ronaldo would be regarded as the best ever?

IMO he's a more complete footballer. He's two footed, he's great in the air and he's now the highest goalscorer of all time having played in 3 of the top leagues in the world, scored over 100 international goals and won an international trophy.

[calumhibee1]

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If the personalities of Messi and Ronaldo were switched do people think Ronaldo would be regarded as the best ever?

IMO he's a more complete footballer. He's two footed, he's great in the air and he's now the highest goalscorer of all time having played in 3 of the top leagues in the world, scored over 100 international goals and won an international trophy.

I think it would probably be a closer run thing. I reckon generally speaking people prefer Messi over Ronaldo the majority of the time, me included.

I love Ronaldo but I know there’s a lot of people who can’t stomach him and I’d suggest it does cloud there judgement. I actually like his arrogance.

There’s next to nothing between them imo, I think Messi just edges it with his passing, vision and dribbling ability to go along with his goal scoring record.

Ronaldo has to be applauded though as I don’t think he has anything like the natural ability of Messi. He’s put in an outrageous amount of work to become the player he is/was. The two best of all time by a mile imo.

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Maradona also never managed to even get into the top 3 of the ballon d’or. Ever.

Messi has won it 6 times and been in the top 3 12 of the last 13 years.

I assume you think Michael Owen was better than Maradona

I think Messi would have struggled to win it in the 80s too to be honest.

[calumhibee1]

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I assume you think Michael Owen was better than Maradona

I think Messi would have struggled to win it in the 80s too to be honest.

Nope. The odd ballon d’or of a difference and I can see where it comes down to personal preference. As such I wouldn’t say Michael Owen is better.

6 ballon d’ors of a difference and finishing higher than Maradona ever managed 12 times is a bit more emphatic. As is scoring 719 goals to Maradona’s 346. And 25 major honours to 10.

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Nope. The odd ballon d’or of a difference and I can see where it comes down to personal preference. As such I wouldn’t say Michael Owen is better.

6 ballon d’ors of a difference and finishing higher than Maradona ever managed 12 times is a bit more emphatic. As is scoring 719 goals to Maradona’s 346. And 25 major honours to 10.

It really is odd that Maradona never won a Ballon D’or or, as it used to be known until the mid 90s, the European Football Player of the Year. I wonder why.

[calumhibee1]

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It really is odd that Maradona never won a Ballon D’or or, as it used to be known until the mid 90s, the European Football Player of the Year. I wonder why.

I didn’t realise that every days a school day.

Even forgetting Ballon D’ors, Messi blows Maradona out the water in every statistical measure whether it’s team honours, goals, assists or games played for longevity.

Anyway, it’s all been covered previously on this thread. I only revived it because I thought Ronaldo becoming the highest goal scorer in history was relevant to it.

[Hakim Sar]

Ronaldo has actually won 2 international tournaments.

[TrinityHibs]

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I didn’t realise that every days a school day.

Even forgetting Ballon D’ors, Messi blows Maradona out the water in every statistical measure whether it’s team honours, goals, assists or games played for longevity.

Anyway, it’s all been covered previously on this thread. I only revived it because I thought Ronaldo becoming the highest goal scorer in history was relevant to it.

See those statistical measures do they include or exclude World Cups?

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[jgl07]

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Where is George Best?

Pissed and slumped at the back of the bar.

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Diego


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[Hibiza]

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Maradona, Ronaldo, Pele, Cruyff, Tortalano, Puskas, Messi..in that order.

Joe , joe,super joe

[Jones28]

I’d like to see a player of the decade from all the decades you’ve been alive.

So I was born in 1993.

90’s probably Ronaldo? Not sure, Beckham possibly?

2000’s could be Ronaldinho, one of the great invincible Arsenal players, Derek Riordan, Beckham again, Rooney possibly, Owen perhaps,.

2010’s Messi

2020’s Ronaldo for hitting that goal tally but tbh there’s not much difference between him and Messi for the 2010’s.

I think we will be looking at Haaland in the same way in 10-15 years time.

[calumhibee1]

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See those statistical measures do they include or exclude World Cups?

1 solitary title/accomplishment that Maradona holds over Messi.

1 UEFA Cup to 4 Champions Leagues

3 league titles to 10 league titles

346 first team goals to 719 and counting first team goals

Speaks volumes really.

[calumhibee1]

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I’d like to see a player of the decade from all the decades you’ve been alive.

So I was born in 1993.

90’s probably Ronaldo? Not sure, Beckham possibly?

2000’s could be Ronaldinho, one of the great invincible Arsenal players, Derek Riordan, Beckham again, Rooney possibly, Owen perhaps,.

2010’s Messi

2020’s Ronaldo for hitting that goal tally but tbh there’s not much difference between him and Messi for the 2010’s.

I think we will be looking at Haaland in the same way in 10-15 years time.

I’m born 1990.

I’d go for

90s - Ronaldo
00s - Zidane
10s - Messi
20s so far - Lewandowski

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I’d like to see a player of the decade from all the decades you’ve been alive.

So I was born in 1993.

90’s probably Ronaldo? Not sure, Beckham possibly?

2000’s could be Ronaldinho, one of the great invincible Arsenal players, Derek Riordan, Beckham again, Rooney possibly, Owen perhaps,.

2010’s Messi

2020’s Ronaldo for hitting that goal tally but tbh there’s not much difference between him and Messi for the 2010’s.

I think we will be looking at Haaland in the same way in 10-15 years time.

Oh that’s good
I was born in 67
60s Eusebio
70s Beckenbauer
80s Maradona
90s Maldini
00s Ronaldinho
10s Messi
20s De Bruyne

It’s impossible really as Best ,Pele ,Cruyff Ronaldo,Pirlo ,Baressi,Dalgleish are my hero’s as well.


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[hibs#1]

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I’d like to see a player of the decade from all the decades you’ve been alive.

So I was born in 1993.

90’s probably Ronaldo? Not sure, Beckham possibly?

2000’s could be Ronaldinho, one of the great invincible Arsenal players, Derek Riordan, Beckham again, Rooney possibly, Owen perhaps,.

2010’s Messi

2020’s Ronaldo for hitting that goal tally but tbh there’s not much difference between him and Messi for the 2010’s.

I think we will be looking at Haaland in the same way in 10-15 years time.

90s-Ronaldo.
00s-Ronaldinho.
10s-Messi.
20s-Haaland.(more of a prediction)

[Jones28]

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I’m born 1990.

I’d go for

90s - Ronaldo
00s - Zidane
10s - Messi
20s so far - Lewandowski

I forgot about Zidane, holy ****

[calumhibee1]

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I forgot about Zidane, holy ****

Ronaldinho was the first to come into my mind to be fair. Not necessarily the best of the decade but by a country mile my favourite ever player.

[Greenbeard]

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I forgot about Zidane, holy ****

I was born in the 50s. I just forget.

[FilipinoHibs]

Pele's friendlies in 1958, opponents and goals.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2021/01/24/600caeca22601d3a148b462b.html

[PatHead]

Messi now got his major trophy. Argentina won the Copa America last night.
Messi named player of the tournament having scored 4 goals.

[Ray_]

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I would be willing to bet every penny I have that Messi has been fouled a hell of a lot more than Maradona was.

https://youtu.be/KJH-UDa6G8A

I would also suggest that many challenges that were considered legit when Maradona was playing would be outlawed now, so I don't really know what the purpose of those stats are?

[eastterrace]

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I would also suggest that many challenges that were considered legit when Maradona was playing would be outlawed now, so I don't really know what the purpose of those stats are?

Plus maradona could ride a tackle with his balance, Best player ever. Okay messi won more titles but maybe that’s cause he had better players around him.