Greatest player of all time?

[marinello59]

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Has anybody else noticed the age divide in the Messi/Maradona debate?

Me.
That’s why I refrained from throwing Alfredo Di Stéfano in to the mix.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Has anybody else noticed the age divide in the Messi/Maradona debate?

The fact I am sticking with Pelé tells all of these youngsters all they need to know 😃

[Keith_M]

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Me.
That’s why I refrained from throwing Alfredo Di Stéfano in to the mix.

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The fact I am sticking with Pelé tells all of these youngsters all they need to know 😃

Couple of old fogies.

[Keith_M]

Sorry, didn't you say Messi?

[Andy74]

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Me.
That’s why I refrained from throwing Alfredo Di Stéfano in to the mix.

My old man has been watching for about 80 years and played a bit himself.

He reckons Pele, Puskas and Di Stefano as the best 3 ever.

He puts Best, Messi, Maradona and Ronaldo all just below.

He's not a Hibs fan but he has an honourable mention for Gordon Smith. Reckons if he played in Spain or Italy at the time he could have been considered up there.

[DH1875]

No Messi V Ronaldo tonight as Ronaldo still has Covid and tested positive again.

[Killiehibbie]

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No Messi V Ronaldo tonight as Ronaldo still has Covid and tested positive again.

How long has he had it?

[Since90+2]

On Saturday night it will be Kevin Nisbet.

[DH1875]

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How long has he had it?

First tested positive while away with Portugal so about 2 weeks. He has said he is fine and had no symptoms but has had 3 tests since and all been positive.

[Since90+2]

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First tested positive while away with Portugal so about 2 weeks. He has said he is fine and had no symptoms but has had 3 tests since and all been positive.

You can test positive for up to 3 months after having the virus. In England the rules are that you can return to training/playing 14 days after being diagnosed as you are no longer infectious.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think Messi is the best player I have ever seen, although it does not make him the best player ever, nobody can say that, it will only ever be an opinion.

[Killiehibbie]

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First tested positive while away with Portugal so about 2 weeks. He has said he is fine and had no symptoms but has had 3 tests since and all been positive.

He'd be back on the ward if he was a nurse.

For many viral diseases (SARS-CoV, Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus, influenza virus, Ebola virus, and Zika virus) it is well known that viral RNA can be detected long after the disappearance of infectious virus.

[calumhibee1]

Bobby Madden’s Instagram post reminded me of this thread.. from players apparently running around 7.5km a game in the 70s we’ve now got referees running 10.5km a game these days just to keep up with the players who are running a hell of a lot more. And yet the physical differences are apparently being overplayed

[jacomo]

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Bobby Madden’s Instagram post reminded me of this thread.. from players apparently running around 7.5km a game in the 70s we’ve now got referees running 10.5km a game these days. And yet the physical differences are apparently being overplayed

Tbf running 7.5km on the quagmire pitches of the 70s would be quite a work out!

But you are right that overall players are so much fitter and stronger than they were - the pace of the game today is much higher.

[calumhibee1]

Cristiano Ronaldo has now become the highest scoring footballer of all time.

What a player.

[FilipinoHibs]

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Cristiano Ronaldo has now become the highest scoring footballer of all time.

What a player.

That is heavily disputed: https://talksport.com/football/821026/cristiano-ronaldo-highest-scoring-player-history-juventus-josef-bican-pele-lionel-messi-romario/

[calumhibee1]

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That is heavily disputed: https://talksport.com/football/821026/cristiano-ronaldo-highest-scoring-player-history-juventus-josef-bican-pele-lionel-messi-romario/

True. As the only player with any reliable figure and the only one who doesn’t seem to be including friendlies/reserve games etc then he certainly seems to have the most credible claim.

[FilipinoHibs]

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True. As the only player with any reliable figure and the only one who doesn’t seem to be including friendlies/reserve games etc then he certainly seems to have the most credible claim.

We can say that CR7 is only one of the four we can actually say how many goals he scored.But are friendlies on a European tour of top clubs any easier than the weaker teams in Seria A and La Liga or the weak teams in the champions league group stages. Santos FC big games outside Brazil were very limited why they went on these European tours to show the world their team and Pele. Do you think the oposition lay down or were they overcome by the two times World Club Champions?

[FilipinoHibs]

Try nipping down to Brasil and telling people Pele did not score over a thousand goals:https://youtu.be/HcitzjlbQZw

[worcesterhibby]

Maradona, Ronaldo, Pele, Cruyff, Tortalano, Puskas, Messi..in that order.

[calumhibee1]

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We can say that CR7 is only one of the four we can actually say how many goals he scored.But are friendlies on a European tour of top clubs any easier than the weaker teams in Seria A and La Liga or the weak teams in the champions league group stages. Santos FC big games outside Brazil were very limited why they went on these European tours to show the world their team and Pele. Do you think the oposition lay down or were they overcome by the two times World Club Champions?

Friendlies are friendlies. Ronaldo will have played his friendlies mainly against very good teams as well yet they won’t be counted. It’s just not the done thing to count club friendly goals.

Counting friendlies is really stretching it imo. Although strangely I wouldn’t say that about international friendlies

[Keith_M]

I'm happy to applaud Ronaldo's scoring record... but still deny him the all-time great honour ahead of Benny Brazil.

Ronaldo, in his whole career, never scored a hat-trick against Celtc.



Benny did.

[jacomo]

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Try nipping down to Brasil and telling people Pele did not score over a thousand goals:https://youtu.be/HcitzjlbQZw

I know Brazilians who will tell you the 1,000 figure is a fable.

[superfurryhibby]

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My old man has been watching for about 80 years and played a bit himself.

He reckons Pele, Puskas and Di Stefano as the best 3 ever.

He puts Best, Messi, Maradona and Ronaldo all just below.

He's not a Hibs fan but he has an honourable mention for Gordon Smith. Reckons if he played in Spain or Italy at the time he could have been considered up there.

TBF if the European cup had been held from around 1947 then Gordon Smith might well have been a multiple winner. By 1955 Hibs were past their best and Smith was into the veteran stage in of his career. I would say he was one of the leading players in world football in his heyday, despite several serious career threatening injuries.

[heretoday]

I say this fellow Metthews has the ball quite literally tied to his foot.......

[A Hi-Bee]

Easy question to answer - Pele

[Greenbeard]

If this thread was "Greatest Player of all time - as thought by the player himself" then there is a player about to leave St Gallen who would be right up there.
(The knife goes in again, with no apology Seveno.)

[Since90+2]

How old you are dictates the answer it seems.

[Bangkok Hibby]

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How old you are dictates the answer it seems.

Of course it does. There can be no comparison between the eras that definitively answers the question. For me its George Best but I'm perfectly prepared to accept those who say Di Stefano

[660]

Diego the greatest.

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