What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[davhibby]

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Remember England will have full stadiums for start of EPL season.

At a minimum it should be 75% by August for Scottish Clubs and away fans allowed. You can travel throughout the U.K. so why not.

Away fans are allowed already up here. The issue is that until it’s full capacity grounds some clubs won’t be able to allow away fans until they get their own supporters in first. Teams like Livi and St Johnstone might even be able to allow away fans in before the 9th if they can be allowed more than 2k

[Sir David Gray]

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https://twitter.com/scotsabroadpod/s...711315976?s=21

That’s a bit more encouraging.

Will maybe tuck my bottom lip back in for now.

I would be surprised if Ibrox/Parkhead has 15/20k allowed for the opening weekend.

It's at least 500 people that's allowed in just now within level 2 areas and we're getting up to 4 times that at 2,000.

I hope it's correct and we can start to have stadiums around a third full but I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about no more than 5/6k able to attend whilst we remain in level 0.

[blackpoolhibs]

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And full hospitals a month later.

The trouble is Ronnie, until everyone is vaccinated, people will still die, and everyone will not be vaccinated, so we will just have to suck it up.

If someone feels vulnerable, and they have not had 2 jabs, then they should probably do what's best for them and keep away from places that crowds will go.

Those that have had 2 jabs, will need to make the same decision too, it's all about personal choice now.

The amount of people who get covid now will 100% rise, there is no doubt about that, but we cant ignore the rest of the population who are suffering from different illnesses and just concentrate on covid now, i believe the time is right now to open things up again.

I suppose no time is right for some, but for me people will have to accept that men and women will still die from this, we cant wait for ever to open things up.

[ronaldo7]

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The trouble is Ronnie, until everyone is vaccinated, people will still die, and everyone will not be vaccinated, so we will just have to suck it up.

If someone feels vulnerable, and they have not had 2 jabs, then they should probably do what's best for them and keep away from places that crowds will go.

Those that have had 2 jabs, will need to make the same decision too, it's all about personal choice now.

The amount of people who get covid now will 100% rise, there is no doubt about that, but we cant ignore the rest of the population who are suffering from different illnesses and just concentrate on covid now, i believe the time is right now to open things up again.

I suppose no time is right for some, but for me people will have to accept that men and women will still die from this, we cant wait for ever to open things up.

I agree we've got to open up, but do it gradually, with mask wearing on public transport and crowded indoor areas until seated for the foreseeable. The vaccinations will allow those who are vulnerable some semblance of normal, but they'll always be on the look out for hot spots imo. I'm currently sitting in the boozer with the Mrs who was previously shielding, it's fine just now, but it'll get busier on a couple of hours and we'll be fu. I'm happy with that. 👍

Best wishes to all the Lancs boys. 👍

[blackpoolhibs]

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I agree we've got to open up, but do it gradually, with mask wearing on public transport and crowded indoor areas until seated for the foreseeable. The vaccinations will allow those who are vulnerable some semblance of normal, but they'll always be on the look out for hot spots imo. I'm currently sitting in the boozer with the Mrs who was previously shielding, it's fine just now, but it'll get busier on a couple of hours and we'll be fu. I'm happy with that. 👍

Best wishes to all the Lancs boys. 👍

Cant argue with any of that Ronnie, although your scenario is never going to happen with these clowns in charge of the country.

Come next Monday, it's a free for all down here.

[ronaldo7]

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Cant argue with any of that Ronnie, although your scenario is never going to happen with these clowns in charge of the country.

Come next Monday, it's a free for all down here.

The clowns are in charge of your adopted country. 👍 😆

[Alfred E Newman]

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Away fans are allowed already up here. The issue is that until it’s full capacity grounds some clubs won’t be able to allow away fans until they get their own supporters in first. Teams like Livi and St Johnstone might even be able to allow away fans in before the 9th if they can be allowed more than 2k

All Livi and most St Johnstone fans will get in.

[blackpoolhibs]

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The clowns are in charge of your adopted country. 👍 😆

Aye, him and his cronies are hopeless.

[Pretty Boy]

In reality 2000 fans is enough to satisfy demand for the vast, vast majority of games in Scotland. Even in the Premiership it will allow a fair few teams close to a full compliment of home fans. Obviously that is a nightmare for teams like St Johnstone who give 3 out of 4 stands in their stadium over to the OF but if it's about getting ST holders in only ourselves, Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic and Rangers will really struggle.

Of course it's about far more than that. We all rely on PATG and away fans for match day revenue and the reality is that ST only attendance will cost a lot of clubs money (if we only take in person revenue into account).

If there is a will to have bigger attendances by the start of the season then there is way. If that means proof of vaccination or proof of a negative test then so be it. The SPFL néed to go to the govt with a firm plan.

[Onceinawhile]

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In reality 2000 fans is enough to satisfy demand for the vast, vast majority of games in Scotland. Even in the Premiership it will allow a fair few teams close to a full compliment of home fans. Obviously that is a nightmare for teams like St Johnstone who give 3 out of 4 stands in their stadium over to the OF but if it's about getting ST holders in only ourselves, Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Celtic and Rangers will really struggle.

Of course it's about far more than that. We all rely on PATG and away fans for match day revenue and the reality is that ST only attendance will cost a lot of clubs money (if we only take in person revenue into account).

If there is a will to have bigger attendances by the start of the season then there is way. If that means proof of vaccination or proof of a negative test then so be it. The SPFL néed to go to the govt with a firm plan.

Dundee as well I'd imagine.

[Blaster]

Celtic want 18k at their European game next week

[Moulin Yarns]

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Celtic want 18k at their European game next week

https://news.stv.tv/sport/football/celtic-hope-to-have-18000-fans-at-champions-league-qualifier?top

More on this.

[Smartie]

The green brigade should just say they'll riot if they're not allowed a certain number in the ground and I don't see what the police or government would do about it.

[Sir David Gray]

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Celtic want 18k at their European game next week

They've no chance of that amount in my opinion.

[bingo70]

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They've no chance of that amount in my opinion.

Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

[calumhibee1]

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Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

Yup. Time to start asking for a lot more and making it clear in public that we’re asking for it and we have the facilities in place to accommodate it.

[Sir David Gray]

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Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

Yep I said the same the other day when I read the article about Aberdeen applying for something like 6,000 tickets for every home game between now and 1st August.

[lord bunberry]

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Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

****in right they do. We’re all sitting at home watching huge crowds in stadiums in England while we are restricted to minuscule crowds. I’ve had enough of it.

[Callum_62]

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****in right they do. We’re all sitting at home watching huge crowds in stadiums in England while we are restricted to minuscule crowds. I’ve had enough of it.

The euros were treated as a special case Wernt they?

If we go ahead on the 9th August how many games home games is that? 2?

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[TrinityHibs]

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The euros were treated as a special case Wernt they?

If we go ahead on the 9th August how many games home games is that? 2?

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I didn't realise Covid was aware the Euros were a special case. The clowns aren't restricted to running BH's adopted country.

[GreenCastle]

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Good on them for asking though.

Clubs need to start trying to put a bit more pressure on IMO,

Yup - clubs need to know so they can plan / sell tickets.

Fans need to know also also as they plan arrangements to travel etc.

Would be curious to know how those who attended last night felt the experience was ?

Easter Road is actually quite fortunate it has some large concourse areas - compare to some clubs stadiums which are older and more compact…thinking…Dundee Utd away - Jim McLean Stand is a maze of tight corridors.

[Lee Marvin]

Even if we are allowed 5k in for the European games we are unlikely to make any money from this competition. Our European 'adventure' may even end of costing us money!!

[calumhibee1]

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Even if we are allowed 5k in for the European games we are unlikely to make any money from this competition. Our European 'adventure' may even end of costing us money!!

Short of getting to the groups I think it’s a cert we’ll lose money on it.

[Bristolhibby]

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Even if we are allowed 5k in for the European games we are unlikely to make any money from this competition. Our European 'adventure' may even end of costing us money!!

Post 9th August it will be full house European nights.

Just need to still be in it.

J

[B.H.F.C]

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Short of getting to the groups I think it’s a cert we’ll lose money on it.

Don’t think we’ll be making a fortune in the qualifying rounds but should cover our costs I’d think.

First qualifying round: €150,000
Second qualifying round: €350,000
Third qualifying round: €550,000
Play-off round: €750,000

Money to be made if we get to the groups.

Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: €500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000

[calumhibee1]

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Don’t think we’ll be making a fortune in the qualifying rounds but should cover our costs I’d think.

First qualifying round: €150,000
Second qualifying round: €350,000
Third qualifying round: €550,000
Play-off round: €750,000

Money to be made if we get to the groups.

Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: €500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000

Is that conference league? That seems a lot of money!

[B.H.F.C]

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Is that conference league? That seems a lot of money!

Yep, definitely the figures for conference. You’ll get the money for the round you reach in qualifying, rather than the money noted against each round, but along with any tickets we can shift we’ll hopefully have ourselves more than covered.