What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[hibbysam]

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The Premier League in England is hoping to have up to 10,000 fans at the last two round of games this season.

Given the lower infection rate in Scotland I'm really looking forward to watching those games on TV in the garden with a friend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56381482

Interesting lines regarding how finishing the season late cost them a tonne of money, and there was folk up here trying to convince us that us finishing our season would have saved Scotland paying back the broadcasters.

[H18 SFR]

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The Premier League in England is hoping to have up to 10,000 fans at the last two round of games this season.

Given the lower infection rate in Scotland I'm really looking forward to watching those games on TV in the garden with a friend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56381482

This has made my day 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[H18 SFR]

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The way Hibs are playing and the way this pandemic is going along wi the way both governments are dealing with this, I dont see myself being back at E.R. in the foreseeable future.

What one thing would put you off watching Hibs the most?

[04Sauzee]

If things keep going the way they are would the end of August be that unrealistic?

Understand things can change.

[Sir David Gray]

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If things keep going the way they are would the end of August be that unrealistic?

Understand things can change.

As things stand after today's announcement, small-scale events can start to take place from 17th May and ramped up during June.

Assuming there's no fallout from that I'd like to think decent numbers might be possible by August.

[bingo70]

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As things stand after today's announcement, small-scale events can start to take place from 17th May and ramped up during June.

Assuming there's no fallout from that I'd like to think decent numbers might be possible by August.

Surely full houses by August?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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Surely full houses by August?

I'd have thought so (unless things change for the worse).

[lyonhibs]

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Surely full houses by August?

Highly unlikely IMO. Some remnant of social distancing will be around for longer than any of us would wish I reckon.

[bingo70]

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Highly unlikely IMO. Some remnant of social distancing will be around for longer than any of us would wish I reckon.

Depresses the life out of me that.

[Gordy M]

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Highly unlikely IMO. Some remnant of social distancing will be around for longer than any of us would wish I reckon.

Im not so sure, if the pubs are fully open and folk can visit other houses, i think it will be full crowds....hopefully.

[Sir David Gray]

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Surely full houses by August?

I honestly don't see full houses being allowed this year as social distancing won't be completely removed anytime soon.

[Onion]

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Highly unlikely IMO. Some remnant of social distancing will be around for longer than any of us would wish I reckon.

Once every adult in the UK is vaccinated (July ?), and the numbers in hospital are under control, where do politicians go from there ? There's simply no logical reason to limit freedoms or restrict public life. It isn't going to get any better than that. Any remaining restrictions will be for reasons other than health.

[bingo70]

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Once every adult in the UK is vaccinated (July ?), and the numbers in hospital are under control, where do politicians go from there ? There's simply no logical reason to limit freedoms or restrict public life. It isn't going to get any better than that. Any remaining restrictions will be for reasons other than health.

Agreed.

I asked the question before and the answer was that they need to be careful if new strands of the virus and they need to see how the vaccine performs over a longer period of time.

For me though, once things are under control like you’ve mentioned everything needs to get back to normal, not some daft new normal, actual proper normal.

[Sir David Gray]

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Im not so sure, if the pubs are fully open and folk can visit other houses, i think it will be full crowds....hopefully.

I don't believe pubs have a date for fully reopening i.e. how they used to operate pre-March 2020. Even in June there's still going to be limits on how many people/households can meet up inside in hospitality premises.

The idea that 20,000 people will be at Easter Road by August just seems too fanciful for me.

[Gordy M]

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I don't believe pubs have a date for fully reopening i.e. how they used to operate pre-March 2020. Even in June there's still going to be limits on how many people/households can meet up inside in hospitality premises.

The idea that 20,000 people will be at Easter Road by August just seems too fanciful for me.

I actually think Wembley will be full for the Euro final. The Scot Gov have been rightfully uber careful but have allowed themselves room for change.....i think the numbers will be so low, and most folk vaccinated, that pubs will ve fully open by end of June. IMO.

[hibbysam]

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I don't believe pubs have a date for fully reopening i.e. how they used to operate pre-March 2020. Even in June there's still going to be limits on how many people/households can meet up inside in hospitality premises.

The idea that 20,000 people will be at Easter Road by August just seems too fanciful for me.

Sturgeon reckons we are planning on hitting tier 0 by end of June. That is no restrictions going by our last tier system. It definitely shouldn’t be fanciful, we’ll have had 18 months of restrictions, absolutely no reason to have any more once vaccine is done. Viruses get weaker as they mutate, not more harmful than the original.

[The dalmeny]

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Sturgeon reckons we are planning on hitting tier 0 by end of June. That is no restrictions going by our last tier system. It definitely shouldn’t be fanciful, we’ll have had 18 months of restrictions, absolutely no reason to have any more once vaccine is done. Viruses get weaker as they mutate, not more harmful than the original.

there’s stuff on Twitter saying there is still considerable restrictions on tier 0

[Sir David Gray]

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Sturgeon reckons we are planning on hitting tier 0 by end of June. That is no restrictions going by our last tier system. It definitely shouldn’t be fanciful, we’ll have had 18 months of restrictions, absolutely no reason to have any more once vaccine is done. Viruses get weaker as they mutate, not more harmful than the original.

Level 0 is certainly not without restrictions based on the previous framework.

8 people from 3 households indoors, 15 people from 5 households outdoors, limited to the number of pubs etc you can visit in one day.

Two metre rules applies between households.

Limits on numbers attending events.

Limits on numbers attending things like christenings and also weddings and funerals.

Table service in pubs and restaurants compulsory.

Nightclubs closed.

All here - https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ction-level-0/

[18Craig75]

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Sturgeon reckons we are planning on hitting tier 0 by end of June. That is no restrictions going by our last tier system. It definitely shouldn’t be fanciful, we’ll have had 18 months of restrictions, absolutely no reason to have any more once vaccine is done. Viruses get weaker as they mutate, not more harmful than the original.

Apart from the fact the ‘Kent’ variant is 64% more deadly than the original dominant strain we had in the UK.

[GreenCastle]

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Level 0 is certainly not without restrictions based on the previous framework.

8 people from 3 households indoors, 15 people from 5 households outdoors, limited to the number of pubs etc you can visit in one day.

Two metre rules applies between households.

Limits on numbers attending events.

Limits on numbers attending things like christenings and also weddings and funerals.

Table service in pubs and restaurants compulsory.

Nightclubs closed.

All here - https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ction-level-0/

I’m not sure if that is the latest updated level 0 guideance. The bottom link takes you to November 2020. I know it says updated today but don’t think they have updated all the pages. Correct me if I’m wrong?

Like others I’m pretty certain once nearly everyone has had 2nd vaccine we will see a rapid relaxing of many restrictions. New strains will happen in future but you can’t wait forever for that to happen. Could be another 10 years !

[hibbysam]

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Apart from the fact the ‘Kent’ variant is 64% more deadly than the original dominant strain we had in the UK.

There’s very few mutations that are potentially more harmful. The Kent one that you talk about would expect 3 more males in their 60’s dying out of 1000 than the original. There are a couple of variants of concern, but the vast majority are far less harmful than the original.

[GreenCastle]

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Apart from the fact the ‘Kent’ variant is 64% more deadly than the original dominant strain we had in the UK.

But vaccines are still highly effective against it. There will be mutations and also over time improve vaccine programmes.

I suspect one day we will need 1 vaccine which will last much longer.

[hibbysam]

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Level 0 is certainly not without restrictions based on the previous framework.

8 people from 3 households indoors, 15 people from 5 households outdoors, limited to the number of pubs etc you can visit in one day.

Two metre rules applies between households.

Limits on numbers attending events.

Limits on numbers attending things like christenings and also weddings and funerals.

Table service in pubs and restaurants compulsory.

Nightclubs closed.

All here - https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ction-level-0/

My mistook, had read something about 0 being no or little restrictions. I’d still expect near normality this time around once the vaccine rollout is essentially complete.

[Sir David Gray]

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I’m not sure if that is the latest updated level 0 guideance. The bottom link takes you to November 2020. I know it says updated today but don’t think they have updated all the pages. Correct me if I’m wrong?

Like others I’m pretty certain once nearly everyone has had 2nd vaccine we will see a rapid relaxing of many restrictions. New strains will happen in future but you can’t wait forever for that to happen. Could be another 10 years !

Yes it is the original level 0 but that's what the poster was referring to.

We don't know yet what the new level 0 will look like.

I honestly doubt if it will be totally restriction free.

[GreenCastle]

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Yes it is the original level 0 but that's what the poster was referring to.

We don't know yet what the new level 0 will look like.

I honestly doubt if it will be totally restriction free.

I don’t think anyone knows yet but I would say it will be much more flexible than the previous level 0.

As I said once majority have 2 vaccinations I would be surprised if they don’t start allowing more.

There will be fans at ER next season for 1st game - it’s just a question of how many.

The Euros will definitely be interesting to see what they do.

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Once every adult in the UK is vaccinated (July ?), and the numbers in hospital are under control, where do politicians go from there ? There's simply no logical reason to limit freedoms or restrict public life. It isn't going to get any better than that. Any remaining restrictions will be for reasons other than health.

Correct. Life has to move on sooner rather than later.

[supermcginn]

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There’s very few mutations that are potentially more harmful. The Kent one that you talk about would expect 3 more males in their 60’s dying out of 1000 than the original. There are a couple of variants of concern, but the vast majority are far less harmful than the original.

Correct..we can dream of being back at Easter road without it being a pipe dream. Most of my department who haven't seen in since March last year are scheduled back in early June full time.

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Depresses the life out of me that.

Then the third wave that some are still predicting will happen this winter


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[Onion]

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Sturgeon reckons we are planning on hitting tier 0 by end of June. That is no restrictions going by our last tier system. It definitely shouldn’t be fanciful, we’ll have had 18 months of restrictions, absolutely no reason to have any more once vaccine is done. Viruses get weaker as they mutate, not more harmful than the original.

Need to be mindful there is nothing normal about politicians. These are invariably power-hungry, controlling individuals who - having had 12 months of deciding what folk can and cannot do day to day - will be reluctant to let the public take control of their own lives. Sturgeon's titbits of freedom handed out today were heavily caveated, ensuring she retained control over what happens when - despite every indication we're on a one-way road to recovery.

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I don’t think anyone knows yet but I would say it will be much more flexible than the previous level 0.

As I said once majority have 2 vaccinations I would be surprised if they don’t start allowing more.

There will be fans at ER next season for 1st game - it’s just a question of how many.

The Euros will definitely be interesting to see what they do.

Yep I definitely think there will be fans in August too, just not a full house that people were referring to earlier.