What's the chances of fans going back in September?

**G15 Hibs** · 23-02-2021 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Keith_M

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I take it the 'September' in the thread title refers to September 2021.

It does now

**monarch** · 23-02-2021 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee

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Scottish Governments responses to date have been the UKs +1 step/delay further, whether that will be the case with an election looming I dont know.

My guess is that will continue on the cautious side. I dont see anything happening this season unless the data is irrefutably good.

Not necessarily. My grandchildren restarted school this week. English schools don’t reopen till next month.

**PatHead** · 23-02-2021 10:24 AM

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Spot on. Its notable from looking at social media how 'not before 21 June' has become 'lockdown ends 21 June'. The pressure will be on them now to fulfil that even if turns out not the be the best thing to do by that time, which potentially results in more infections, more deaths and measures being reintroduced. There will now be pressure on the Scottish Government to do the same, even though they're typically more sensible and measured in these things, and will undoubtedly be used as a stick to beat them if they don't mirror the Westminster plans by people who should know better.

So much for Boris's -we will be guided by data not dates. As someone said he now has a big target on his back. I'm a bit worried about everyone going on foreign holidays and importing different strains in.

That would knacker everything again.

***danhibees1875*** · 23-02-2021 10:32 AM

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So much for Boris's -we will be guided by data not dates. As someone said he now has a big target on his back. I'm a bit worried about everyone going on foreign holidays and importing different strains in.

That would knacker everything again.

I think the media need to shoulder a lot of that blame to be fair.

They couldn't have said "at the earliest" much more when announcing those dates which are the earliest they say they'll relax things - depending on the data.

I read today there was a flurry of activity to book foreign holidays after the announcement regardless though!

**hibbyfraelibby** · 23-02-2021 11:09 AM

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Best hope is that Sturgeon throws a flakey with the election coming up so implements some limited relaxations.

No chance. She know Bozo's plan whilst logical in its phasing is way too risky in terms of the timings of the phases. Road maps are easy to draw but the scheduling is key.

Engkand's appriach seems predicted on getting the pubs open so the plebs will get p!$$€d and forget about Bozos failures and the massive number of avoidable deaths his incompetent corrupt government is responsible for.

**Lago** · 23-02-2021 11:18 AM

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So much for Boris's -we will be guided by data not dates. As someone said he now has a big target on his back. I'm a bit worried about everyone going on foreign holidays and importing different strains in.

That would knacker everything again.

It was made quite clear that the dates are not fixed but are dependent on the data at all times. They will be moved out if necessary.

**Wakeyhibee** · 23-02-2021 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by monarch

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Not necessarily. My grandchildren restarted school this week. English schools don’t reopen till next month.

Was only a guess based on what's gone before. It might be she takes a different tac this time. Schools to be fair has always been the SNPs priority, last time was nearly term end when they had any kind of chance.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 23-02-2021 11:47 AM

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I think the media need to shoulder a lot of that blame to be fair.

They couldn't have said "at the earliest" much more when announcing those dates which are the earliest they say they'll relax things - depending on the data.

I read today there was a flurry of activity to book foreign holidays after the announcement regardless though!

500% increase in bookings for TUI

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56161129

***danhibees1875*** · 23-02-2021 11:49 AM

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500% increase in bookings for TUI

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56161129

To be fair, probably a low starting point to get the 5x increase from but still I don't know how likely/sensible it is to assume there will be holidays. I'd be looking for free cancellation anyway - and cancellation based on the customers whom rather than just if it's not allowed so as not to be trapped into a holiday you don't actually want or feel comfortable with.

**PatHead** · 23-02-2021 12:04 PM

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It was made quite clear that the dates are not fixed but are dependent on the data at all times. They will be moved out if necessary.

I didn't watch the presentation and am only picking up from the news. Definitely has been spun by the media that it will all be over in the not too distant future.

Problem is folk will hold them to it.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 23-02-2021 12:08 PM

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To be fair, probably a low starting point to get the 5x increase from but still I don't know how likely/sensible it is to assume there will be holidays. I'd be looking for free cancellation anyway - and cancellation based on the customers whom rather than just if it's not allowed so as not to be trapped into a holiday you don't actually want or feel comfortable with.

Even before that I was getting emails from self catering companies in the UK offering bookings as early as 1st March. I'll be waiting until it's official that we can book accommodation, not some possible date in the future.

***CockneyRebel*** · 23-02-2021 12:23 PM

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It was made quite clear that the dates are not fixed but are dependent on the data at all times. They will be moved out if necessary.

Folk see what they want to see.

**Hiberniankb** · 23-02-2021 01:08 PM

Is Joshua Fury a possibility for Wembley in the summer now?

***CallumLaidlaw*** · 23-02-2021 01:15 PM

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Is Joshua Fury a possibility for Wembley in the summer now?

No. Wembley will be in use for the Euros for around the time the fight is expected and I think they’ve already narrowed the venue down to 2 Middle East locations. They also won’t wanna risk dates getting pushed back by the government.

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***basehibby*** · 23-02-2021 01:34 PM

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As a society the majority seem fairly comfortable with lockdown and I don’t see millions pushing the narrative that we need to get back to normal.

Unless that malaise changes then we can kiss goodbye to ever going back to Easter Rd, if we still have a club.

It’s up to the population of this country what happens next when the vulnerable are vaccinated and deaths reduce by 99%.

Really??? I bloody well hope not or we are well and truly Donald Ducked as a society.

Despite getting out to work every day I feel like a wound up spring inside and am starting to have fantasies about various politicians swinging from lamposts.

Lockdown is absolutely NOT the way forward. Vaccines or no vaccines we need to start learning to live with this virus - and I mean LIVE.

It would be good for starters if the UK government lifted the restrictions on early treatments for COVID - restrictions that have more than likely resulted directly in the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands so far and the tally will be rising on a daily basis. I don't know if the decision makers are in the pockets of the vaccine manufacturers or what but enough is enough. We need to be doing everything we can as a society to break out of lockdown and live a life that's sustainable AND healthy going forward.

**CMurdoch** · 23-02-2021 02:11 PM

Why would any sane person make promises on international travel.
No part of it is in their gift.
The pandemic has continually made a fool of populist polititians.
Trump had the pandemic finishing almost a year ago.
NS on now