What's the chances of fans going back in September?

[Moulin Yarns]

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No doubt all the carry on outside the lesser greens hovel today will delay crowds getting back further.

Definitely. Seen tweet about it

[Hibeesforever]

England are opening up grounds, lots of pressure on the Scottish Government to follow suit...

[hibbysam]

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Definitely. Seen tweet about it

Crowds aren’t delayed, they are allowed in their specific tiers. If the government stopped crowds going back after this they’d have a brass neck seeing as they wouldn’t do it to other industries. Would they put a blanket ban on pubs opening after the ‘incidents’ during international week?

[Moulin Yarns]

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Crowds aren’t delayed, they are allowed in their specific tiers. If the government stopped crowds going back after this they’d have a brass neck seeing as they wouldn’t do it to other industries. Would they put a blanket ban on pubs opening after the ‘incidents’ during international week?

Simple answer



YES

[hibbysam]

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Simple answer



YES

They never did. The actions of the few should have absolutely no bearing on the many. There was no talk of closing all the pubs if one chain never got their house in order, there should be no talk about stopping all fans because of the actions of one club.

[plhibs]

I was watching the Dallas NFL game last week (thanksgiving day) and there was 30,000 fans into that game. I think the capacity is 105,000, quite surprised how empty the stadium looked.
I know the USA is not a good example of how things should be done, just an interesting item.

No way i'm suggesting or saying it's the correct way.

[Moulin Yarns]

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They never did. The actions of the few should have absolutely no bearing on the many. There was no talk of closing all the pubs if one chain never got their house in order, there should be no talk about stopping all fans because of the actions of one club.

You asked should not did.

[Ronniekirk]

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England are opening up grounds, lots of pressure on the Scottish Government to follow suit...

England are all over the shop though Boris is not a strong leader he chops and changes under pressure
Given December and January are the main flu season months the clamour to almost ignore the virus and open things up is asking for trouble as This will be the time NHS won’t be able to cope
I do t think Nicola will pander to this plan for March would be best plan now apart from teams in Tier one and two where limited amount of fans should be gradually increased




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England are opening up grounds, lots of pressure on the Scottish Government to follow suit...

Is there?

I doubt that football fans are close to the forefront of the Scottish Government thinking right now.

[Robbo6-2]

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Is there?

I doubt that football fans are close to the forefront of the Scottish Government thinking right now.

The first minister is too busy campaigning for Scottish Independence to care about Scottish football

[Moulin Yarns]

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the first minister is too busy answering questions about scottish independence to care about scottish football

ftfy

[hibbyfraelibby]

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The first minister is too busy campaigning for Scottish Independence to care about Scottish football

Grow up

[Allez Hibs]

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The first minister is too busy campaigning for Scottish Independence to care about Scottish football

Correct.

[hibbysam]

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You asked should not did.

I actually asked ‘would’ and considering that was many weeks ago now and they never did, then the answer is clear.

[Magpie]

Up to 2,000 fans return tonight in stadiums across England.

[Moulin Yarns]

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I actually asked ‘would’ and considering that was many weeks ago now and they never did, then the answer is clear.

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You asked should not did.

29/11/2020

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They never did. The actions of the few should have absolutely no bearing on the many. There was no talk of closing all the pubs if one chain never got their house in order, there should be no talk about stopping all fans because of the actions of one club.

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Just watched the cricket on bt sports stadium packed not a mask in sight was in Australia tho

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29/11/2020

In the original post that you replied to about asking if the government would do it, they clearly never. Me saying ‘should’ in the second post was regarding my opinion on the actions of the few bringing the majority down in regards to football stadia. Fairly simple stuff again. The government stopping fans going back would be as brass necked as it comes and not consistent with any other decisions they had made.

[Keith_M]

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In the original post that you replied to about asking if the government would do it, they clearly never. Me saying ‘should’ in the second post was regarding my opinion on the actions of the few bringing the majority down in regards to football stadia. Fairly simple stuff again. The government stopping fans going back would be as brass necked as it comes and not consistent with any other decisions they had made.

Closing all pubs in Aberdeen after a fairly small outbreak, then holding off for weeks (months?) on doing the same in Glasgow & Lanarkshire when numbers shot through the roof, wasn't very consistent.

The 'yellow card' for Scottish Football was also way out of proportion to what actually happened.

Then there's the decision to go ahead with a couple initial trials of football fans at stadiums... then ignoring all request to carry on with them in gradually increasing numbers, as was the original plan. This was totally at odds with the results of those trials, which by most standards would be deemed successful, and can hardly be described as 'following the science'.


I won't pretend to know what goes on in the heads of those in charge but there definitely seems to have been occasions where logic wasn't involved.

[I'm Spartacus]

It's going to be interesting to see if people just go back to normal with zero distancing and no masks, or if masks in crowds will now be the norm.

[G B Young]

Fans seem pretty divided on the issue. It's certainly not an overhwelming majority desperate to get back through the turnstiles:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55141784

[Latapy'sVolley]

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Fans seem pretty divided on the issue. It's certainly not an overhwelming majority desperate to get back through the turnstiles:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55141784

Unsurprising that such a small percentage of Premier League supporters are saying they want to go back - only a small percentage of these clubs' fans will regularly go to games anyway.

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Unsurprising that such a small percentage of Premier League supporters are saying they want to go back - only a small percentage of these clubs' fans will regularly go to games anyway.

Is that true? Or do you mean some clubs (eg Man U, Liverpool) have such massive global supports that only a small percentage actually go to games regularly?

It seems to me that the attendances in the Premier League are by and large pretty huge. Who are all these folk going to the games if not regular fans?

[nonshinyfinish]

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Unsurprising that such a small percentage of Premier League supporters are saying they want to go back - only a small percentage of these clubs' fans will regularly go to games anyway.

Hard to say exactly which percentages apply to which group without seeing the full results, but this seems pretty unambiguous:

About half of football fans who regularly attended matches before the pandemic said they would return to watch their team regularly before a vaccine was available

[Latapy'sVolley]

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Is that true? Or do you mean some clubs (eg Man U, Liverpool) have such massive global supports that only a small percentage actually go to games regularly?

Yeah I mean this ^

[danhibees1875]

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Unsurprising that such a small percentage of Premier League supporters are saying they want to go back - only a small percentage of these clubs' fans will regularly go to games anyway.

The poll was of fans who regularly attended matches.

[Latapy'sVolley]

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The poll was of fans who regularly attended matches.

Says "both regular and non-regular match goers".

Point is, would imagine the percentage of fans up here wanting back into games will be greater because we've (relatively speaking) smaller fanbases and greater percentages of them are used to regularly going to games.

[offshorehibby]

My big mate is well chuffed, he's got his tickets to see the mighty Elgin on Saturday.

[danhibees1875]

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Says "both regular and non-regular match goers".

Point is, would imagine the percentage of fans up here wanting back into games will be greater because we've (relatively speaking) smaller fanbases and greater percentages of them are used to regularly going to games.

You're right, I had misread how they were reporting that. They've split the results out though, so it's still only 48% keen to go from the group of people who regularly went beforehand - I don't see why that wouldn't be reflected up here.

[Latapy'sVolley]

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You're right, I had misread how they were reporting that. They've split the results out though, so it's still only 48% keen to go from the group of people who regularly went beforehand - I don't see why that wouldn't be reflected up here.

Agreed, if not I'd imagine our demand would be higher because we've a greater percentage of population that goes to games (fingers crossed)