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    Side issue/ what’s happening with the 2020 Scottish Cup winners? Are they going to get a Euro place or will there be no reward?
    No Euro place, it was given to Aberdeen for this season’s Europa League.


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    No Euro place, it was given to Aberdeen for this season’s Europa League.
    is it just me or is anyone else starting to really dislike Aberdeen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
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    No Euro place, it was given to Aberdeen for this season’s Europa League.
    Cant see why it cant go to the 2020 Cup winners, rather than 5th place.

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    Cant see why it cant go to the 2020 Cup winners, rather than 5th place.
    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Really?
    Yes, really. Wouldnt make any difference if Celtic or Aberdeen win it, but could see us qualified for Europe before the New Year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not In The Know View Post
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    is it just me or is anyone else starting to really dislike Aberdeen?
    I've had a real dislike of them for years. Not really sure why to be honest.
    There are 4 club's in Scotland that I feel similar about - Rangers, Hearts, Celtic and Aberdeen (probably in that order as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny View Post
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    I've had a real dislike of them for years. Not really sure why to be honest.
    There are 4 club's in Scotland that I feel similar about - Rangers, Hearts, Celtic and Aberdeen (probably in that order as well).
    Same. I figure it's either because of the historic casual/fighting stuff and how that just translated into a bit more of a boisterous atmosphere at games between the 2 in more recent times, or because they generally win games and finish above us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Same. I figure it's either because of the historic casual/fighting stuff and how that just translated into a bit more of a boisterous atmosphere at games between the 2 in more recent times, or because they generally win games and finish above us.
    I developed a dislike for them when Willie Miller used to referee matches. They used every trick in the book. Always hope it snows up there every day.

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    Yes, really. Wouldnt make any difference if Celtic or Aberdeen win it, but could see us qualified for Europe before the New Year
    The Scottish teams kick off in the European tournament this month and the 2020 Scottish Cup semi finals are still to be played.
    Hibs will be in Europe next season as a result of finishing in the top 5 unless a team outwith that wins the cup, which won't happen.

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    I've had a real dislike of them for years. Not really sure why to be honest.
    There are 4 club's in Scotland that I feel similar about - Rangers, Hearts, Celtic and Aberdeen (probably in that order as well).
    So you don't mind the teams that are smaller than us but dislike our rivals

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    So you don't mind the teams that are smaller than us but dislike our rivals
    LoL yeah, probably a fair summary. I don't really mind Motherwell or Killie though (even despite their sectarian element) and they've probably been closer rivals than Aberdeen in recent years.
    I've had phases of disliking other clubs, Falkirk in particular for one. I think that's because I stayed in Fife for a while and developed a bit of a soft spot for Dunfermline - the whole Norrie McCathie song and some of the behaviour I seen from their fans in Dunfermline left a sour taste.

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    So having a look at the standings after the first couple of rounds. Right now we're 13th ahead of Cyprus and Denmark. So far we've picked up 1.25 points, and if our goal is always to do better than the season thats going to be deleted(2016-17) we need more than 4.375. 2 of the teams still in have a prospective tough match ahead, but 2 teams with decent draws in the Group stages should do us well.
    Turkey are in 11th, but will lose 9+ points....we've got the least points to lose of the top 15 teams, so we should be able to maintain 5 teams in Europe for a few seasons, at least until last seasons points total disappears

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    So having a look at the standings after the first couple of rounds. Right now we're 13th ahead of Cyprus and Denmark. So far we've picked up 1.25 points, and if our goal is always to do better than the season thats going to be deleted(2016-17) we need more than 4.375. 2 of the teams still in have a prospective tough match ahead, but 2 teams with decent draws in the Group stages should do us well.
    Turkey are in 11th, but will lose 9+ points....we've got the least points to lose of the top 15 teams, so we should be able to maintain 5 teams in Europe for a few seasons, at least until last seasons points total disappears
    6.5 points each season would keep Scotland comfortably in the top 15 countries and ensure 5 European places each season is retained, certainly in the medium term. It's been a long time climb to get back after Rangers demise.

    This is our last season with 4 teams representing Scotland and any points won from next season will therefore be divided by 5 instead of 4 therefore it is more important than before that Scottish representatives, outside the Glasgow two, don't totally **** the bed in the preliminary rounds against teams they should beat. Aberdeen, Hibs and one other team will have that responsibility next season.

    I reckon Aberdeen and Hibs will do okay. Both are getting back to their strongest again after their rebuilds. Next summer should see us finish ours, post Lennon & Heckenbottom.
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    Did well this week, but all 4 teams away next week. Celtic should go thru(Wonder if Uefa will switch it what with Rigas roof collapse), Motherwell have a chance but Rangers and the Dons will need a small miracle methinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby View Post
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    Did well this week, but all 4 teams away next week. Celtic should go thru(Wonder if Uefa will switch it what with Rigas roof collapse), Motherwell have a chance but Rangers and the Dons will need a small miracle methinks
    Rangers are playing Willem II are they not? Away from home, fair enough. But can see them getting a result there no problem. As much as I hate them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby View Post
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    Did well this week, but all 4 teams away next week. Celtic should go thru(Wonder if Uefa will switch it what with Rigas roof collapse), Motherwell have a chance but Rangers and the Dons will need a small miracle methinks
    Rangers will be favourites to win that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM1875 View Post
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    Rangers are playing Willem II are they not? Away from home, fair enough. But can see them getting a result there no problem. As much as I hate them!
    Hibs beat them this year

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    Did well this week, but all 4 teams away next week. Celtic should go thru(Wonder if Uefa will switch it what with Rigas roof collapse), Motherwell have a chance but Rangers and the Dons will need a small miracle methinks
    2.250 points for Scotland already this season.
    A third of the way to the another decent number.
    Comfortably 13th and chasing the Ukraine (only half a point behind).

    Got to be looking at the old firm both winning next week but Motherwell and Aberdeen will be up against it.
    Coincidently, Motherwell's second half performance was absolutely appalling last night. Tactically inept.

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    Who have Motherwell got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceinawhile View Post
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    Who have Motherwell got?
    Draw on now.

    Away to Hapoel Beer Sheva this week then another play off which is the draw today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Draw on now.
    Motherwell have Hapoel Be'er Sheeva. The draw on now is for the last qualifying round I believe.

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    Celtc away if they beat Riga.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Sporting have a lot of players that have Covid so there’s a possibility Aberdeen might get a bye

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    Am I right in thinking the ties are still only over one game?

    If so, has the coefficient system needed to change? before you had a chance to win 2 games per round, and now its only 1. Do you get double points now? Or were points previously only given over a tie, rather than per game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernz View Post
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    Am I right in thinking the ties are still only over one game?

    If so, has the coefficient system needed to change? before you had a chance to win 2 games per round, and now its only 1. Do you get double points now? Or were points previously only given over a tie, rather than per game?
    For qualifying rounds, the points are based on progressing or not rather than the results of individual legs. In the group stages you get a minimum number of points just for being there plus extra points based on results.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_c...ub_coefficient

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    Motherwell at home if they get through.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Motherwell at home if they get through.

    Ditto Aberdeen

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    All Scottish teams* are at home 1st October if they win this week.

    *Except Celtc.

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    If Aberdeen can get past a depleted Sporting they are in with a great shout of reaching the group stages. Annoying.

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    Aberdeen and Motherwell out.

    The Rangers and Celtic still going.

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