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    Do I need a TV licence to watch Hibs TV?

    Not as straightforward a question as it might seem. I don´t have a TV or a TV licence - I just watch stuff on Netflix, Amazon or my own DVDs etc. Technically, Hibs TV broadcasts are live events, and streamed, and both of those things are defined under things which you are required to have a licence to watch (e.g. YouTube is now covered under that definition too) so that might be that. But I thought I´d throw it out there in case I´m wrong. Cheers.


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    Not as straightforward a question as it might seem. I don´t have a TV or a TV licence - I just watch stuff on Netflix, Amazon or my own DVDs etc. Technically, Hibs TV broadcasts are live events, and streamed, and both of those things are defined under things which you are required to have a licence to watch (e.g. YouTube is now covered under that definition too) so that might be that. But I thought I´d throw it out there in case I´m wrong. Cheers.
    Yes, you do. Streaming of a live event requires one.

    It's the same if you watched the tennis on Amazon the other week. Was a big thing made of that at the time

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    I'd advise you to read up a bit about not paying for the tv licence then not pay for it if all you would use it for is to watch the hibs games.

    None of the fee will go to Hibs and it will be an extra £12 or so a month on top of what you are paying for the right to see the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Greens View Post
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    Yes, you do. Streaming of a live event requires one.

    It's the same if you watched the tennis on Amazon the other week. Was a big thing made of that at the time
    That´s what I thought. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SChibs View Post
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    I'd advise you to read up a bit about not paying for the tv licence then not pay for it if all you would use it for is to watch the hibs games.

    None of the fee will go to Hibs and it will be an extra £12 or so a month on top of what you are paying for the right to see the game.
    Cheers for the answer. I thought it was the case that I did need one. I just wasn´t 100% sure though and I thought I´d check. I have a season ticket, so games are included, but as you say, at least my money has gone to Hibs.
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    Cheers for the answer. I thought it was the case that I did need one. I just wasn´t 100% sure though and I thought I´d check. I have a season ticket, so games are included, but as you say, at least my money has gone to Hibs.
    You've paid x amount to watch the Hibs games so I dont see why you should have to pay a licence fee to watch them. I cant see there being any repercussions for you if you didnt pay the fee to be honest. Unless hibs are giving out the IP addresses of folk watching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Greens View Post
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    Yes, you do. Streaming of a live event requires one.

    It's the same if you watched the tennis on Amazon the other week. Was a big thing made of that at the time
    No, you don’t.

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    i thought you needed a licence if you had an applience that could listen to the bbc radio aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage East View Post
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    No, you don’t.
    What's your thinking on this?

    I'm pretty sure that, by law, you need a TV licence to watch the Hibs games live.

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    Pretty sure the license is only needed for any BBC output only, live or streamed from any device

    Also, non payment is almost unenforceable in Scotland so don’t pay our imperial masters for their rank propaganda to be beamed into your home

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    Pretty sure the license is only needed for any BBC output only, live or streamed
    The licencing website specifically states the opposite of that :-/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    The licencing website specifically states the opposite of that :-/


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    Pretty sure the license is only needed for any BBC output only, live or streamed from any device

    Also, non payment is almost unenforceable in Scotland so don’t pay our imperial masters for their rank propaganda to be beamed into your home
    That's not the case;

    The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:

    watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel
    watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)
    download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.

    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-...YaAtiDEALw_wcB

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    Ah well, screw em anyway, Tory TV


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    Pretty sure the license is only needed for any BBC output only, live or streamed from any device

    Also, non payment is almost unenforceable in Scotland so don’t pay our imperial masters for their rank propaganda to be beamed into your home
    Deary me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    Ah well, screw em anyway, Tory TV


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    What if you don't have a home and you're watching live TV from your phone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jonesy- View Post
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    Pretty sure the license is only needed for any BBC output only, live or streamed from any device

    Also, non payment is almost unenforceable in Scotland so don’t pay our imperial masters for their rank propaganda to be beamed into your home

    No one in Scotland has ever been fined or jailed for not having a licence.

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    What if you don't have a home and you're watching live TV from your phone?
    You're still bound by the same law.

    If you watch anything as it's being broadcast, you need a TV licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    You're still bound by the same law.

    If you watch anything as it's being broadcast, you need a TV licence.
    Pretty sure it's an act of Parliament, not a law.

    Aren't the laws in Scotland and England different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greencore View Post
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    No one in Scotland has ever been fined or jailed for not having a licence.
    That’s not true. You can no longer be jailed in Scotland for failure to pay the TV licence fine after the law was reformed in Scotland . Plenty of fines have been handed out though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman View Post
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    Pretty sure it's an act of Parliament, not a law.

    Aren't the laws in Scotland and England different?
    The law that requires a TV Licence for using or installing television receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on TV, or to download or watch BBC programmes, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer applies in the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), the Channel Islands and Isle of Man.

    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/...framework-AB16

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    Do some people still pay the TV licence? A nonsense that the BBC are claiming money for someone to watch Sky's channels for example. A 'licence' to be able to watch TV? Sounds like something the Chinese government would do.

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    No, you don’t.
    You do. I'm 100% certain of this as I looked into it recently for my own purposes. You can choose not to pay it if you want, but I think it's important that we answer the OPs question correctly.

    You need a TV licence to watch a live stream of a football match in the UK, regardless of the company providing the stream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greencore View Post
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    Pretty sure it's an act of Parliament, not a law.

    Aren't the laws in Scotland and England different?
    Legislation that is passed becomes law. Yes, some laws in England and Scotland are different but there is a huge number of laws that are UK wide.

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    Never had a licence for about 20 years and i won't be buying one anytime soon..**** the BBC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    You're still bound by the same law.

    If you watch anything as it's being broadcast, you need a TV licence.
    The definition of a TV programme does not appear to be very clear. Not obvious that a limited subscription broadcast of a football game is included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    The definition of a TV programme does not appear to be very clear. Not obvious that a limited subscription broadcast of a football game is included.
    The broadcast is live on an online TV channel and is therefore covered.

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    The definition of a TV programme does not appear to be very clear. Not obvious that a limited subscription broadcast of a football game is included.
    I'll refer back to my first post on this thread.

    The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:

    • watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel
    • watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)
    • download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.

    This applies to any device you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.
    Source - https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-...IaAsrZEALw_wcB

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