He was famous for drifting to the left and cutting inside. Obv. He played in a different system but Auba is not being played as an orthodox winger either.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You seem determined to play down the mans qualities, which of course is your right, but I think you are doing him a dis-service suggesting he’s been punted to the left wing to try and some how accommodate his flaws. To me it’s a gross mis representation of how he’s being played and why. His goal scoring record speaks for itself in terms of his quality.
But we can agree on one thing, Henry was better!
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Thread: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
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03-08-2020 09:03 PM #61
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04-08-2020 06:09 AM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for playing as an orthodox winger, he absolutely is. One thing he’s doing brilliantly in that position is tracking his fullback and protecting Tierney.
As for playing down his qualities, I’m acknowledging them but highlighting a major flaw he has in his game. He can’t possibly be seen as a being in the top 3 no 9’s when he isn’t very good at arguably the most important part of the role outside goalscoring.Last edited by Winston Ingram; 04-08-2020 at 06:13 AM.
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04-08-2020 09:08 AM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBgaS-ORoM
But it does seem you want your number 9 to excel at hold up play as well as goal scoring...I’m not sure you find that in many players to be honest. But maybe we are arguing over nothing as I’m not really trying to put him in a top 3 of anything.
The fact is though he would be able to play for almost any top team in Europe and that’s good enough for me to convince me of his qualities, hold up play ability or not!
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04-08-2020 09:12 AM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I absolutely agree you won't find it in many players but you can when you're talking about the creme de la creme
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04-08-2020 10:12 AM #67
This is one of the most interesting threads I've read on the main board in a long time. Genuinely engaging to read how different people can view the same players, aspects of the game, the importance of certain attributes etc.
The "left-winger" point is particularly interesting. I would never have described the position PEA has been playing recently as left-wing; however, the more I think about the more I think it might be an accurate tag to give it. Out of interest, what position would folk on here say Mane plays for Liverpool?
Everyone seems to be in agreement that PEA is a quality player, but I think the original question which sparked the debate is whether he's in the "top three strikers in the World at the moment". I suppose that's still open to personal interpretation but, for me, he's clearly top 10, possibly top 5 but not top 3. Again, it would be interesting to read who folk on here would have in their top 5?
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04-08-2020 10:13 AM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-08-2020 12:06 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I was going to describe Mane as a left-sided forward, but I think that misrepresents the work he does when Liverpool aren't in possession.
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04-08-2020 12:19 PM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-08-2020 02:20 PM #72
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I don’t think he’s played left wing once for arsenal, as I don’t think arsenal (or many other teams these days) play with wingers.
But that’s based on my interpretation of the term winger... maybe it’s moved on and so should I!
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04-08-2020 02:40 PM #73
You don’t have to play for the top teams to be world class of course but I do wonder why (so far) Dortmund & Arsenal are the biggest teams he has played for. Two big clubs, but probably a level slightly below the likes of Bayern, Barcelona or Real and I wonder why they have never bought him before. He is world class, but there’s probably sub categories within that definition and I’d probably put him in the category slightly below the one Lewandowski, for example, is in.
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04-08-2020 02:44 PM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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That is really the reason he hasn't quite reached those clubs. None of them needed a striker for at least 6 years.
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04-08-2020 03:10 PM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Anyway, as I said above not having played for those clubs doesn’t mean someone can’t be world class.
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04-08-2020 03:22 PM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I know that of course, its just that none of those clubs signing him made sense over the last 6/7 years.
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04-08-2020 03:52 PM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Man City, Liverpool Man U all play with 3 up top with no recognised wingers, they're all inside forwards cutting in onto their stronger foot, that's not to say they don't ever go past their man but all these teams have attacking wingbacks to play the wide role, just look at the number of assists from Robertson and Alexander-Arnold. Wolves use the attacking wingbacks but play with a back 3.
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04-08-2020 05:14 PM #79
PEA is good but its not even an argument who the best striker in the world is. Lewandoski by a country mile
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04-08-2020 05:51 PM #80This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Brilliant player.
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04-08-2020 07:37 PM #81This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-09-2020 06:11 PM #85This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Late developer? Probably passed over by the biggest clubs when he was a youngster.
Maybe he just wants to play every week?
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15-09-2020 06:13 PM #86
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On very initial impressions, the defender Gabriel looks like a unit. Saliba, who has just come back from loan is very highly-rated and there are a bunch of talented youngsters who couldn’t get a start in the last game - Saka, Willock, Nketiah, Nelson. Plus Martinelli coming back in the new year, who is a tremendously exciting prospect. Every chance Ceballos will make a permanent move given he is back for another season on loan and he is a very creative player.
I think Arsenal struck gold in signing Tierney. And then finding a system that seems to work. He is on the left in a 3-4-3 but because of the way Arsenal play, against Fulham he was finding himself out on the touch line, showing and crossing. He also made some great passes through the middle.
There was one moment when he was on their goal line inside their box and managed to turn it back past two players before passing - very Seventies Dutch football! None of that is at the neglect of his defending though, he made a number of astute tackles.
Looks like Martinez and Torreira will depart, which is a shame because they are both players I really liked, but I would never have reckoned Elneny had a future at the Emirates, yet Arteta looks like he has found a very specific role for him that he can do well.
Although Arsenal had a good run against the top clubs at the end of the season they will face more tests in the coming weeks. Aubameyang signing a new contract will surely be a further morale boost.Last edited by Mibbes Aye; 15-09-2020 at 06:43 PM.
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15-09-2020 07:12 PM #89This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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What happened? Did he play in the first team or just move to Dortmund? I don’t remember him at Milan at all.
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