Can't agree with this. Mallan is a good player. Unfortunately I don't think he can play in the same team as Scott Allan as they want to occupy the same positions and neither are particularly good at the defensive part of the game.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Thread: Fraser Fyvie
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27-06-2020 04:19 PM #61
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27-06-2020 05:34 PM #62
Fyvie made a bigger contribution at Hibs than Mallan has done.
Fyvie was generally played in his right position, in a good team, against poor opposition though.
Mallan I feel a bit sorry for. He clearly has something about him but is being judged by many for being very poor when played out of position. It would be interesting to see what he could do in a decent team, played in the right position.
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27-06-2020 05:46 PM #63
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As for the above, what you think he probably earns is irrelevant. It is up to Ross to get value from him. What is encouraging from last season is Ross seems to recognise that Mallans best position is further forward. If that leads to using him as a sub or only in certain games then so be it, at least we might get a chance to see and judge him in his best position which we have rarely seen so far.
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27-06-2020 06:01 PM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I didn't chose to look past it, he didn't give the ball away that much, simple as. It didn't happen. No more than McGinn. Fyvie was the deep lying guy, the guy who passed it the most, the guy who took it off the fullbacks (notice how often they turn back now, that wasn't a thing 3 years ago). He had a stinker that day against Rangers. It was such an anomly that it is still literally the only one anyone ever comes up with.
Mallan is only levels above him in shooting. He gives the ball away plenty as well. Watch next time he plays how often it happens. Fyvie dominates him in consistency, mentality, positioning, determination, decision making, workrate.
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27-06-2020 06:03 PM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-06-2020 06:10 PM #66
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I think Mallan is a good player. He's scored some great goals for us and it's worth mentioning that only Tavernier and McGregor had more assists than him in the Premiership last season.
The players must rate him for voting him player of the season.
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27-06-2020 06:31 PM #67
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I'm not saying he is definitely going to be good if played there or that he is a great player. All i'm saying is i think he was hung out to dry a bit and should get a chance to change peoples opinion of him by playing in his best position.
Mallan himself said that the best 6 months of his career came at st mirren after mcginn was signed and he was freed from defensive duties to get forward. Add his obvious excellent technical ability and poor defensive qualities and i think its fair to say his best position is as an attacking midfield player.
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27-06-2020 06:37 PM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Haha I went to enough games to know it’s not a pigment of my imagination, used to drive me crazy, he was terrible for giving the ball away. I’m not the only one saying it - we canny all have made it up?
Would give you determination and work rate. Any technical ability comparison mallan wipes the floor with him. Obviously I disagree on decision making given my groans about fyvie’s carelessness in possession.
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27-06-2020 06:53 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd say tackling is a technical attribute? Fyvie has it there by miles. Mallan is tidy, nice to watch on a youtube highlight reel. The reality is quite different. A reason one was a vital player in the cup winning Hibs side and the other not even the best player in his position.
I went to enough games to know he didn't give it away. You, in my opinion, are blinded by 1 match against Rangers. Shame because you'd think his cup winning performance against Rangers would be the one that sticks in the memory.
I think the facts are way in Fyvies favour. Mallan as I say looks tidy on youtube but aside from the odd goal offers very little.
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27-06-2020 06:57 PM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I just don't see it with Mallan at all. He is still living off a good first 4 months or so. Offered next to nothing for 18 months now. His arrival and playing every week has coincided with a real decline in our midfield.
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27-06-2020 07:16 PM #71
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27-06-2020 07:17 PM #72
Any new threads on Fyvie should be banned. He's been done to death on here. His career confirms that he's nowhere near as good or bad as folk on here continually make out.
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27-06-2020 07:22 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't see why threads on any football related subject should be banned on here. If you dislike the subject, don't open it. I think normal members trying to police the forum is much worse than any repetition in subject.
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27-06-2020 07:24 PM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-06-2020 07:50 PM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
When i say technical i really mean in possession of the ball. I’ve already agreed fyvie was better without it, it’s what he did with it when he had it that i didn’t like.
I don’t agree the facts are in fyvie’s favour. The facts are he’s 27 and should be in his prime but plays part time at cove rangers. I think hibs fans are very attached to every member of the cup winning team, which i can understand, but perhaps it clouds your memory slightly.
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27-06-2020 08:12 PM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-06-2020 08:13 PM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Facts are he has won an FA cup and a Scottish cup while Mallan is maybe the backup in his position here.
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27-06-2020 08:26 PM #79This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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