Fraser Fyvie

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Even though I knew SJM was destined for better things, I thought he was our best player when he was at Hibs. Dictated the pace of the game, linked defence to attack brilliantly. Poor judgment on his part to play games with Lenny when it came to renewing his contract and I think injuries have taken their toll on him which is why he finds himself at Cove.

Was it not Fyvie that came on and made the difference for Aberdeen when we played the game Memory of Eddie Turnbull after is death 1-3 from memory. For Effs sake Hibs.

[Centre Hawf]

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+1

Fyvie a better all round player.

This. If we had the Fyvie that left (different to the one that is playing now no doubt) he would have been a first choice in the midfield that has lacked some of the dig he helped provide. Fyvie from 2015/16 and even 2016/17 would walk in beside someone else behind Allan.

[Bristolhibby]

Anyone know what his family reasons were?

If it’s just the missus can’t pop round to her mums every day for a coffee, that’s not good enough IMHO.

J

[supermcginn]

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"Toiled" at utd? Lol

"Lol" yes that's why they released him.

[HendoDelivered]

Off topic but I see Juinor side Darvel have signed ex St Mirren, Falkirk, QoS and Ross Co midfielder, Ian McShane - still only 27. Top, top signing for that level.

[Iain G]

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Off topic but I see Juinor side Darvel have signed ex St Mirren, Falkirk, QoS and Ross Co midfielder, Ian McShane - still only 27. Top, top signing for that level.

No deadwood for them then!

[GlesgaeHibby]

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Anyone know what his family reasons were?

If it’s just the missus can’t pop round to her mums every day for a coffee, that’s not good enough IMHO.

J

Not good enough? Seriously? It's his life, and if he feels he has made the right call for his family then good on him.

Good player, and would have been delighted if he'd stayed at Hibs. Glad to see he's happy where he is now though.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Anyone know what his family reasons were?

If it’s just the missus can’t pop round to her mums every day for a coffee, that’s not good enough IMHO.

J

[J-C]

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"Lol" yes that's why they released him.

He done his cruciate ligament, that can ruin anyone's career, he struggled after he came back from that.

Fyvie wasn't spectacular in any way, he was a decent solid midfielder who did the basics well, my only gripe with him was his sideways passes all too often just to keep the ball flowing, never seemed to take a chance with a pass, injuries have now caught up with him.

[Green Man]

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Not good enough? Seriously? It's his life, and if he feels he has made the right call for his family then good on him.

Good player, and would have been delighted if he'd stayed at Hibs. Glad to see he's happy where he is now though.

Absolutely. As fans, we always look at players’ moves from a footballing perspective, but for the players it’s their job like anyone else’s. If I was looking at changing jobs, I’d be far more inclined to take one that allowed me to stay close to my family.

[Bronson]

Ahh it’s that time again already, the 6 monthly Fraser Fyvie thread.

Never fails to amaze me how highly rated he is by some on here, classic case of distance makes the heart grow fonder.

A good 6 months when he first signed, after that I thought he was mediocre at best. Gave the ball away far too often (see 4-2 v rangers at ibrox for example). I’ve said it before, there’s a reason he’s playing for cove in his prime years, if he was half as good as some on here would have you believe then he’d have got another spl club no bother. You can cite family reasons but if you think he wouldn’t jump at another spl move you’re kidding yourself on.

No disrespect to the guy, just my opinion. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke and he was part of the cup winning team so will always be fondly remembered for that, but I won’t go along with the idea that he was a great player for hibs.

Oh, and despite his flaws, mallan is twice the player.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Ahh it’s that time again already, the 6 monthly Fraser Fyvie thread.

Never fails to amaze me how highly rated he is by some on here, classic case of distance makes the heart grow fonder.

A good 6 months when he first signed, after that I thought he was mediocre at best. Gave the ball away far too often (see 4-2 v rangers at ibrox for example). I’ve said it before, there’s a reason he’s playing for cove in his prime years, if he was half as good as some on here would have you believe then he’d have got another spl club no bother. You can cite family reasons but if you think he wouldn’t jump at another spl move you’re kidding yourself on.

No disrespect to the guy, just my opinion. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke and he was part of the cup winning team so will always be fondly remembered for that, but I won’t go along with the idea that he was a great player for hibs.

Oh, and despite his flaws, mallan is twice the player.

I dont understand these comparisons, they are completely different players? Mallan is best going forward, and Fyvie was best sitting in, neither can do the other job well.

[Bronson]

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I dont understand these comparisons, they are completely different players? Mallan is best going forward, and Fyvie was best sitting in, neither can do the other job well.

You’re right they are different players, I’m just commenting on what others had mentioned in previous posts as it was suggested we’ve never signed a better midfielder since fyvie left. Would take mallan over him every day and twice on sundays if it was a choice between the two.

[FilipinoHibs]

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I dont understand these comparisons, they are completely different players? Mallan is best going forward, and Fyvie was best sitting in, neither can do the other job well.

Mallan been a complete waste of space for a long time. Completely gutless and not scoring for a some time. We are a man down when he plays.

[Bristolhibby]

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Not good enough? Seriously? It's his life, and if he feels he has made the right call for his family then good on him.

Good player, and would have been delighted if he'd stayed at Hibs. Glad to see he's happy where he is now though.

It’s absolutely up to him. But I find it really small pond syndrome that families don’t get behind well paid footballers and broaden their horizons (in return for good pay).

Personally and I’m not saying FFs situation is the same. But if I was earning a lot of money every week I’d expect my wife and kids to move with me.

I moved a lot as a kid including abroad, my Mum never made us all move back to Edinburgh. Despite the fact that I’m sure she missed her family. Ended up down here in England because of Dads work.

J

[PH91]

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We are a man down when he plays.

Not quite the full truth. We are like a man down when he is asked to play as a central or defensive midfielder. He doesn't have the defensive qualities to play there and Hecky almost drove me crazy by continually doing it.

It wouldn't be like a man down if played in his proper position though i.e. where scott allan usually plays. You only have to look at Newell to see how a player written off as utter p*sh can go on to play very well if given the right role in the team.

[Centre Hawf]

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Not quite the full truth. We are like a man down when he is asked to play as a central or defensive midfielder. He doesn't have the defensive qualities to play there and Hecky almost drove me crazy by continually doing it.

It wouldn't be like a man down if played in his proper position though i.e. where scott allan usually plays. You only have to look at Newell to see how a player written off as utter p*sh can go on to play very well if given the right role in the team.

I do agree with what you say in that it's unfair to play him at CDM and expect him to put a shift in like Bartley or even McGeouch, but I think even in Allan's position the guy is a passenger. His effect on the game from open play is pretty much void if he's not scoring and even his set pieces for a while have been piss poor. I think his confidence has taken a dip for sure but his performances have been far from good enough to justify him getting into the team over the names we had from January onwards (i know he was injured too)

[bigwheel]

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I do agree with what you say in that it's unfair to play him at CDM and expect him to put a shift in like Bartley or even McGeouch, but I think even in Allan's position the guy is a passenger. His effect on the game from open play is pretty much void if he's not scoring and even his set pieces for a while have been piss poor. I think his confidence has taken a dip for sure but his performances have been far from good enough to justify him getting into the team over the names we had from January onwards (i know he was injured too)

What does “passenger” mean when people decry Mallan, because he works hard enough, always makes himself available for the ball (a bit like fyvie did actually), he has a good range of passing, and is a decent passer too. So it can’t be that...I’m assuming it is he doesn’t work back enough and win enough of the ball..that’s certainly not his forty. No way he is a passenger though. Works his socks off, even when it’s not happening for him. He’s the type of player that teammates will like to have in the side, but unless he is making or scoring goals, fans won’t appreciate him as much.


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What does “passenger” mean when people decry Mallan, because he works hard enough, always makes himself available for the ball (a bit like fyvie did actually), he has a good range of passing, and is a decent passer too. So it can’t be that...I’m assuming it is he doesn’t work back enough and win enough of the ball..that’s certainly not his forty. No way he is a passenger thigh. Works his socks off, even when it’s not happening for him. He’s the type of player that teammates will like to have in the side, but unless he is making or scoring goals, fans won’t appreciate him as much.


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What it means is a lot of people who watch fitba have their eyes painted on.

[bigwheel]

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What it means is a lot of people who watch fitba have their eyes painted on.

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[MWHIBBIES]

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Ahh it’s that time again already, the 6 monthly Fraser Fyvie thread.

Never fails to amaze me how highly rated he is by some on here, classic case of distance makes the heart grow fonder.

A good 6 months when he first signed, after that I thought he was mediocre at best. Gave the ball away far too often (see 4-2 v rangers at ibrox for example). I’ve said it before, there’s a reason he’s playing for cove in his prime years, if he was half as good as some on here would have you believe then he’d have got another spl club no bother. You can cite family reasons but if you think he wouldn’t jump at another spl move you’re kidding yourself on.

No disrespect to the guy, just my opinion. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke and he was part of the cup winning team so will always be fondly remembered for that, but I won’t go along with the idea that he was a great player for hibs.

Oh, and despite his flaws, mallan is twice the player.

It's you again, in the fyvie thread with the same post. Wrong about distance making the heart grow fonder. Many rated him them. I was a huge fan every minute he was here.

"For example" yes, that's the only example anyone ever has.
Go on, give another.


In what aspects is Mallan better, apart from shooting?

[MWHIBBIES]

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Not quite the full truth. We are like a man down when he is asked to play as a central or defensive midfielder. He doesn't have the defensive qualities to play there and Hecky almost drove me crazy by continually doing it.

It wouldn't be like a man down if played in his proper position though i.e. where scott allan usually plays. You only have to look at Newell to see how a player written off as utter p*sh can go on to play very well if given the right role in the team.

He isn't good enough to get in the team at his supposed best position. That's the problem.

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What does “passenger” mean when people decry Mallan, because he works hard enough, always makes himself available for the ball (a bit like fyvie did actually), he has a good range of passing, and is a decent passer too. So it can’t be that...I’m assuming it is he doesn’t work back enough and win enough of the ball..that’s certainly not his forty. No way he is a passenger though. Works his socks off, even when it’s not happening for him. He’s the type of player that teammates will like to have in the side, but unless he is making or scoring goals, fans won’t appreciate him as much.


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In my opinion he doesn't work hard enough, he lack the physicality and drive to impose himself on or off the ball in a midfield at the level we're wanting to challenge at. Fair enough if you think he has all the attributes you listed but I certainly don't agree I'm afraid.

[PH91]

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He isn't good enough to get in the team at his supposed best position. That's the problem.

There is no problem. He won't play regularly ahead of allan but its a squad game and he will get game time during the season either from the bench, if allan is injured or has a dip in form or in a formation that allows both to play (albeit there aren't many imo).

[bigwheel]

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In my opinion he doesn't work hard enough, he lack the physicality and drive to impose himself on or off the ball in a midfield at the level we're wanting to challenge at. Fair enough if you think he has all the attributes you listed but I certainly don't agree I'm afraid.

I can understand people not liking what he does off the ball, definitely a weak point ...but your “on the ball” point doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny ...

[Centre Hawf]

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I can understand people not liking what he does off the ball, definitely a weak point ...but your “on the ball” point doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny ...

It's been a long time since I've seen a player strike a ball like he can at Hibs, he's in the category of Deeks and Griff for that accolade in the last 10/15 years. In his first season his ability on the ball was showing especially when he creates space to shoot. But this season we've not seen that except his goal against Hearts. His play making skills have been lacking as well, for me he needs to really kick on next season and show us something because if Hibs fans are sitting debating whether folk like Omeonga or Halberg are good enough for us then Mallan certainly hasn't been for a while.

[MWHIBBIES]

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There is no problem. He won't play regularly ahead of allan but its a squad game and he will get game time during the season either from the bench, if allan is injured or has a dip in form or in a formation that allows both to play (albeit there aren't many imo).

Well that's an entire season he hasn't been anywhere near taking Allan's spot. How long do we wait?

I'd rather guys on the wages Mallan is probably earning were actually good enough to play every week.

[supermcginn]

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Ahh it’s that time again already, the 6 monthly Fraser Fyvie thread.

Never fails to amaze me how highly rated he is by some on here, classic case of distance makes the heart grow fonder.

A good 6 months when he first signed, after that I thought he was mediocre at best. Gave the ball away far too often (see 4-2 v rangers at ibrox for example). I’ve said it before, there’s a reason he’s playing for cove in his prime years, if he was half as good as some on here would have you believe then he’d have got another spl club no bother. You can cite family reasons but if you think he wouldn’t jump at another spl move you’re kidding yourself on.

No disrespect to the guy, just my opinion. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke and he was part of the cup winning team so will always be fondly remembered for that, but I won’t go along with the idea that he was a great player for hibs.

Oh, and despite his flaws, mallan is twice the player.

Great post, couldn't agree more.

[Bronson]

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It's you again, in the fyvie thread with the same post. Wrong about distance making the heart grow fonder. Many rated him them. I was a huge fan every minute he was here.

"For example" yes, that's the only example anyone ever has.
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In what aspects is Mallan better, apart from shooting?

Entitled to share my opinion as much as you are mate, it’s a fans forum for discussion. I’m not sure why my opinion on fraser fyvie offends you so much, it’s nothing personal I just didn’t rate him.

Funnily enough, I can’t think of a dozen specific examples of a player giving the ball away 4 years ago off the top of my head. I remember the rangers game as it was a huge game and it cost us the equaliser, not to mention his pathetic defending at the 4th goal. The fact of the matter is it was a feature of his game that really let him down. I’m not the only one who seen it, perhaps you just choose to look past it.

Mallan’s levels above fyvie technically. Shooting, passing, first touch - not even close for me. Gets about the pitch less and not as robust but a far better footballer.

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No deadwood for them then!

Seems to have bypassed many so touchè sir 😀