SSN are reporting that we are completely binning the youth set up? That would be a terrible decision imo
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18-06-2020 01:38 PM #1
Youth academy - disbanded?
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18-06-2020 01:39 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-06-2020 01:43 PM #4
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There’s no youth/development league until 2021 now due to coronavirus
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18-06-2020 01:44 PM #5
With the development league off for the foreseeable, it just makes financial sense for now. It's unfortunate, but needs must right now.
I think we'll see it reinstated in the future.
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18-06-2020 01:57 PM #8
I think just for the cost and practicalities of running a youth set up, it was inevitable. Really harsh on those involved and they won't be the only people impacted by coronavirus.
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18-06-2020 02:02 PM #10
Devastating for the kids in the set up, I hope they manage to keep their spirits up and Hibs support them in whatever way we can mentally and practically in terms of finding a new club.
That said I don’t think an academy is really needed for us, if we produce really good ones the chances are they’ll get cherry picked by a bigger club and if they don’t there’s no guarantees they’ll be able to develop the way we want them to do and even then, if there’s an established senior player in their position it can be even more difficult for them to make the break through.
I think a club of our size should be copying the Brentford set up and picking up the bigger clubs cast offs, better chance of getting the good ones in positions we likely need at a fraction of the cost and resources spent on it.
It won’t be a popular decision but it’s the right one imo.
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18-06-2020 02:08 PM #11
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I suspect its more likely mothballed then discontinued completely.
However going forward there may end up being a review of the whole setup to see what costs can be saved.
The running costs of East Mains may be prohibitive for example while we go through this.Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, vodka in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming, "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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He looks to be about to remove all he can in an attempt to balance our budget for next season.
In practical terms it removes lots of bodies from the equation with the bare minimum of people at East Mains to stay Covid 19 freeLast edited by CMurdoch; 18-06-2020 at 02:12 PM.
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18-06-2020 02:10 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not even a debate imo
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18-06-2020 02:12 PM #14
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18-06-2020 02:19 PM #17
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Also allows for a complete overhaul to aim to become far more effective
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18-06-2020 02:19 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There’s no clear out pathway to the first team IMO. We can see that anecdotally, but I’ve linked before to an article that analysed clubs in the SPL from 2009 - 2019 in terms of how many players from the academy made their debut, and probably more tellingly the total minutes played. The stats for both, particularly minutes played, didn’t reflect well on us.
We need to be brave and have giving youth as one of our core principles. There’s never a perfect time to introduce youngsters, we just have to give them their chance as and when they come through. The 3 seasons in the championship the consensus seemed to be that it wasn’t the time to play youth, we had to get promoted. The first season back up wasn’t the time as we needed to consolidate and push on, the last two seasons haven’t been the time as we’ve struggled and needed to make the top 6. There won’t ever be an easy time to do it IMO.
I think the youth set up needs a complete overhaul, as well as expanding our youth scouting network across Scotland. There are lots of good players out there, Motherwell & Hamilton being particularly testament to that. I appreciate none of that comes cheaply, but that’s one area I’d be looking to invest in and change as it’s an area we have badly underperformed the last decade or so IMO. I’d also supplement that with quality young players released higher up the food chain and find the next David Murphy.
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18-06-2020 02:22 PM #19
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Will they release the boys from their contracts, or make them wait until January before releasing them.
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18-06-2020 02:23 PM #20
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18-06-2020 02:28 PM #21
It cannot be stated enough that these are unprecedented times. Things are tough for everyone, but for businesses they are tough now and are going to get tougher. As government aid starts to diminish all businesses (apart from undertakers) will need to find ways to cut costs and inevitably this will mean people losing their jobs. Football clubs and Hibs in particular, are no different and lots of savings will have to be made so that we can concentrate our or primary core business i.e. putting a first team on the pitch to play matches. Those that expect the owner to finance any extras from his own pocket are failing to grasp the difference between running a business and philanthropy.
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It will be interesting to see if in these brutal times, the club look to move David Grey or Daz into the coaching part of their contracts should they move on the current coaching staff.
It all pretty hellish this stuff.
First team players are on cast iron contracts so it's not easy to reduce costs without going for the easy targets like the youth set up.
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18-06-2020 02:29 PM #23
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18-06-2020 02:32 PM #24
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Total common sense decision to patch it for a year minimum.
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