Jambos Legal Challenge

[bawheid]

It would be really funny if they spent loads of money and were still crap next year. I would laugh lots. HOOF!

[Eyrie]

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I would say unfortunate rather than unfair. The rules allow for the season to be ended early unfortunately Hearts were bottom when it was called. Like a game of musical chairs it is not unfair when you lose unlucky may be not unfair.

I said "unfair" earlier but "unfortunate" is the correct term.

[Kato]

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It would be really funny if they spent loads of money and were still crap next year. I would laugh lots. HOOF!

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[bawheid]

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Sadly, Levien has left.

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Ask Dundee United fans what it was like watching their team under Neilson. In fact, ask Hearts fans!

[Bostonhibby]

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They might be well suited to the land of the Phlegms.

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[majorhibs]

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Hahaaa

Surrrrrrrre

EVERY team that's in 12th place should ALWAYS be paid 3 times what the tournament winners receive.....

And they should NEVER be relegated for finishing 12th, with a total of 4 wins in the past however many months & years

Maroon tinted specs are the issue, not green ones!

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[majorhibs]

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I actually agree but after all of this I simply don't care.

Hope we're able to give them an absolute horseing in the cup. Arrogant *******s

My type of reply!

[TheMrSandiego]

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Do you
a.) reward failure (don't relegate PT, hmfc).
b.) punish success (don't promote DU, RR & CR).
c.) spoil the product (change the number of teams in the top league, create a boring end to the season).

Option A is the least unfair. If you don't have a seat when the music stops you are out.

The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

[matty_f]

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The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

Kelty and Brora were denied a chance of promotion because it was impossible to play the play off in a reasonable time - they still don’t know when they can play football. Neither were entitled to go up automatically. The proposal for reconstruction, as well as promoting those two teams, would have placed teams in the current first division in the new lowest tier, which brings the risk of being relegated from the league set up.
It’s hardly surprising turkeys didn’t vote for Christmas, regardless of bus journeys.

Brechin’s survival is the flip side - they stayed up on a practicality, the inability to play the play off (which they might have won, that league doesn’t feature automatic relegation). Relegating Brechin from a league without automatic relegation would surely have been more unfair than what happened, given that neither Kelty nor Brora were entitled to automatic promotion (in fact, at least one of them definitely wouldn’t have been promoted).

Reconstruction would inarguably have spoiled the product. A split halfway through the season effectively creates a two tier top flight, and while it could be argued that the top 6/bottom 6 does the same, the point at which it splits significantly lessens the impact.

There’s also the financial impact and the significant drop in the competitiveness of the league. Anyone championing a system that splits halfway through the season to a top 6/bottom 8 format is kidding themselves on if they think that’s an improvement on what we currently have.

The shambles, as it’s being labelled, is not down to the SPFL who have acted in the best interests of its members in as much as they’ve had no fair and reasonable solution to choose, so have taken the least unfair option available to them.

They have had to consider UEFA guidelines (titles, relegations, European places to be decided on sporting merit, timescales for completing competitions) and deal with the very real fact that the inability to play competitive football severely restricts their options.

No, the shambles os’s because certain clubs have refused to abide by the rules they signed up to, have refused to acknowledge the limitations on the options available, and who have tried to drag everyone else down because they’re petulant, arrogant, entitled pricks.

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The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

A) Brechin situation was different because bottom place doesn't automatically go down. Scrapping playoffs was the right thing to do as we would've had to then delay the restart for 6 matches to be played 1st. As it is, we have scrapped the January shut down and are praying for a mild winter because there is next to no room to rescheduled matches. There is no room to fit in the 2019/2020 playoff matches.

B) Brora and Kelty can perhaps consider themselves unlucky not to have a crack at promotion however playoffs would have involved 4 matches and as said above, there isn't room to fit in playoffs. Bonnyrigg Rose were 6 points behind Kelty with a game in hand so I wouldn't describe that as Kelty romping the league.

C) The game here would be no more of a laughing stock than the other European leagues, which have had court cases, if it hadn't been for Rangers trying to get rid of the SPFL board with their damp squib of a dossier because they're still upset about being made to restart at the 4th tier and because of the way Hearts and Hearts people have behaved.

In what way was the game a laughing stocking and a shambles pre-covid and how have the SPFL spoiled the product? Biggest TV deal ever, crowds at the highest levels for decades, easily the highest crowds per capita of any European country.

[Greenworld]

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The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

Utter Rubbish the only laughing stock is hearts.
They single handedly have dragged football into the gutter.
Hearts are the ones that need punished further expulsion from scottish football would be appropriate.

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[Victor]

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Hearts are now relying on Belgium? Belgium? They are not even a real country, if my memory serves me right, they were originally part of Spain. They they are now the EU equivalent of Washington DC which is why the EU HQ and NATO are based there. The only good things to come out of Belgium are Tin Tin and Hercules Poirot, (both fictional, like Hearts attempts to portray themselves as a real team) and Jacques Brel, who was real and brilliant (unlike Hearts).


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[Waxy]

10 point deduction for hearts and Partick for this would be fair.

[Peevemor]

In the Belgian thing, league 1A was stopped immediately and Waasland were relegated despite it being possible (like Hearts) for them to avoid it. However, league 1B wasn't stopped immediately, with the decision taken to allow another play-off match to decide relegation.

It's the difference in treatment between the 2 leagues that has prompted the decision, which could still be overturned by a vote tomorrow.

In any case it's totally different to HMFC/PT's argument.

[Kato]

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The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

What would you have done to make it less of "a shambles"? It seems to me that "the shambles" part is down the protracted obstruction of the clubs vote to end the League.

What part is "unfair"? No one is saying its ideal but where have Hearts been dealt with unfairly?

The use of the word without any aspects of unfairness actually being described in the last few posts is beginning to echo Sportsound.


What would have been "fairer"?

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[Jpdhfc]

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The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

Kelty did not romp there league though 6 pts ahead of Bonnyrigg who had a game in hand with 5 games to play

[brog]

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The SPFL have actually managed to do all of the above.

a. Brechin have been rewarded for being far and away the worst team in the league system and surviving. Ironicly it was their chairman who came up with the orginal proposal to end the season too.

b. Both Kelty and Broara romped their respective leagues but got got shafted out of the chance of promotion. One club even admitting to voting down reconstruction as they didnt fancy the bus trip up north to play Broara!!!

c. Spoil the product? Are you actually serious with that? The game is now an even bigger laughing stock than it was pre-covid which is mental as we were a shambles then too.

As ive said before, if it wasnt for Hearts going down here surely most Hibs fans would agree none of this is fair. We have ended up rooting for the best of a bunch of shocking options purely to laugh at Hearts (again) but in truth the whole thing has been a shambles. Please try and not lose sight of that.

LTYF! Always wanted to say that!

[Since452]

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10 point deduction for hearts and Partick for this would be fair.

Deduct Partick 20 for being foolish enough to be Hearts wee lapdog

[Joe6-2]

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Hearts are now relying on Belgium? Belgium? They are not even a real country, if my memory serves me right, they were originally part of Spain. They they are now the EU equivalent of Washington DC which is why the EU HQ and NATO are based there. The only good things to come out of Belgium are Tin Tin and Hercules Poirot, (both fictional, like Hearts attempts to portray themselves as a real team) and Jacques Brel, who was real and brilliant (unlike Hearts).


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Belgium were part of the Netherlands until 1830

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Kelty did not romp there league though 6 pts ahead of Bonnyrigg who had a game in hand with 5 games to play

And Kelty still had to go to Bonnyrigg - that 6 point “romp” could easily have turned into a goal difference diferentiator.

The Lowland League must be a shambles as well.

[Heisenberg]

Kelty and Brora have been the least hard done by in all of this. They were absolute ****ing chancers trying to act the victim and snake their way into the league setup on the back of the virus.

[NC1875]

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And Kelty still had to go to Bonnyrigg - that 6 point “romp” could easily have turned into a goal difference diferentiator.

The Lowland League must be a shambles as well.

Sure most of Bonnyriggs remaining games were at home too. They were more likely to finish top than Hearts were to avoid relegation imo.

[04Sauzee]

Dave Mcormack of Aberdeen tweets

Next week we’ll update Dons fans on the Club’s cashflow projections for Season 20/21. An example of the reality we face is an income loss of £400,000 with the Rangers game being played behind closed doors. Determined to avoid staff redundancies and entertain our fans! Stand Free!

[Peevemor]

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Dave Mcormack of Aberdeen tweets

Next week we’ll update Dons fans on the Club’s cashflow projections for Season 20/21. An example of the reality we face is an income loss of £400,000 with the Rangers game being played behind closed doors. Determined to avoid staff redundancies and entertain our fans! Stand Free!

Seems a huge amount for one match.

[Irish_Steve]

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Seems a huge amount for one match.

He`s probably factoring in TV money too??

[Peevemor]

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He`s probably factoring in TV money too??

The TV money doesn't change, behind closed doors or otherwise.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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He`s probably factoring in TV money too??

They’re still getting paid that though?

[oneone73]

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He`s probably factoring in TV money too??

They're not losing TV money though?

[nonshinyfinish]

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Seems a huge amount for one match.

Yeah, I don't know exactly how many STs they've sold, but assuming 8k, that leaves 12k tickets that they now can't sell. To get to £400k they'd need to be sold at an average of £33. Seems very unlikely once you account for concessions.

They would lose some additional money from catering, but £400k seems high.

[Keith_M]

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For absolutely no reason at all



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My wife is innocently sitting at her Home Office, trying to do her work and was the victim of sexual harassment just after the Sexy Assistant appeared in the video.

I also now have a black eye.

I'm blaming you for both of these (obviously unrelated) events.