Games at Murrayfield?

[GreenCastle]

So whose paying for the stadium hire and extra stewarding costs of Murrayfield ?

Plus the testing for Hibs players / staff when they return on 15th ?

[Phil MaGlass]

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So whose paying for the stadium hire and extra stewarding costs of Murrayfield ?

Plus the testing for Hibs players / staff when they return on 15th ?

Hearts, No?

[Phil MaGlass]

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If there`s talk of Hibs playing home matches at Murrayfield with say 8000 of 10000 STHs turning up , could Edinburgh City and other clubs in lower divisions from east of Scotland play home matches at Easter Road ? Obviously problems with pitch but some work to be done to stadium first .

I dont think Edinburgh city have problems with space

[Phil MaGlass]

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It would only be viable if social distancing wasn't in operation, which makes me ask what would be the point, in that case you might just as well re open Easter Road. If the two meter rule was still in operation a queue of 1000 people would stretch over a mile, use of the toilets would be out of the question because it would mean people having to pass each other constantly.

At full time at ER folk moan like hell about the wait to exit the east stand ... imagine what that would be like if you had to wait row on row on row for your turn to leave the stadium, it would take bloody hours for some folk to get out

Turnstiles are a problem too ..... every fan passing through would be breathing on or touching them, absolutely every fan would need to use a mask and hand sanitiser before going through or risk infecting the fan behind them. We all know what happens when a goal is scored ... just how far would your Covid - 19 germs go as you jumped up shouting yeeeeesssss, even with a mask on?

Nope ... the only way fans are going to get back in is if social distancing ends, not to mention the advice not to travel more than 5 miles, how many fans live further than 5 miles from either ER or Murrayfield? ... for me its over 30 miles.

And on that note I have passengers from sometimes two different families in my car all of us obviously in a confined space, in the current situation that's an absolute no no .... how many folk will be affected by that and what will it do to the volume of traffic around the stadium?

The problems with this are practically endless as things stand.

It will be a nightmare for queues at the toilet aswell, whos going to socially ditsance or clean the toilets, most public toilets are closedvin Holland, except at malls where theres a clean3r everytime someone exits

[GreenCastle]

No new Coronvirus deaths registered in Scotland over the past 24 hours - according to the news.

[H18 SFR]

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No new Coronvirus deaths registered in Scotland over the past 24 hours - according to the news.

Are the registrars not closed over be weekend?

[Ringothedog]

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Are the registrars not closed over be weekend?

It’s not stopped deaths been notified for the previous 4 months

[Keith_M]

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So whose paying for the stadium hire and extra stewarding costs of Murrayfield ?

Here's a wee scenario to consider.


After an initial set of games played behind closed doors, the SPFL follow the example of some other countries and start with an initial 25% of capacity in use at stadiums. Imagine as well that Hibs, by that point, have ~12,000 Season Ticket holders.

If you play the first set of matches at Easter Road, the Season Ticket Holders would be taking it in turns to attend games, missing out on just over half of home games. Given that, it wouldn't be possible to sell Single Match Tickets (there would likely be an outcry from ST holders). This would mean no extra money for Hibs.


Now imagine instead that Hibs decided to play those games at Murrayfield. The 25% capacity would mean a maximum of 17,000 fans could attend. As that's a possible 5,000 more than the number of Season Ticket holders, the club would, in this scenario, be able to sell Single Match Tickets.

It wouldn't be outwith the realms of possibility that we could get an attendance of 15-16,000 (actually less than last season's average), meaning the club have then sold around 3-4,000 extra tickets, at an average price of about £15 each.

That would mean playing that set of games at Murrayfield would raise (depending on the actual attendance) somewhere between 45k-60k per game. The club could use that extra revenue to pay for the stadium rental.

There would also be the added benefit that no Season Ticket Holders would need to miss a single home game.

[Ozyhibby]

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If there`s talk of Hibs playing home matches at Murrayfield with say 8000 of 10000 STHs turning up , could Edinburgh City and other clubs in lower divisions from east of Scotland play home matches at Easter Road ? Obviously problems with pitch but some work to be done to stadium first .

The crowds Edin city get can comfortably socially distance where they play now at Spartans.


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[GreenCastle]

So when Hibs start training on 15th..

Will the players and staff be tested ??

[Keith_M]

Regarding playing games at Murrayfield, using a percentage of the normal capacity (possibly 25%), Scottish National Clinical Director, Jason Leitch said


“I think it’s an excellent idea. It makes perfect sense.”

[leithsansiro]

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Regarding playing games at Murrayfield, using a percentage of the normal capacity (possibly 25%), Scottish National Clinical Director, Jason Leitch said



“I think it’s an excellent idea. It makes perfect sense.”

Murrayfield is actually a really good venue for social distancing. It’s on a big open site, there’s loads of turnstiles and the actual access in the site to the stadium is very open.

I wouldn’t be shocked if this does come to happen in the slightly longer term, though I still think totally closed door games will happen first.

[hibee-boys]

I just don't get how social distancing can be implemented at any stadium, irrespective of ground size. I think these ideas are all pie in the sky. Can you imagine trying to socially distance exiting the East Stand, you'd still be there for the next home game!

[Keith_M]

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I just don't get how social distancing can be implemented at any stadium, irrespective of ground size. I think these ideas are all pie in the sky. Can you imagine trying to socially distance exiting the East Stand, you'd still be there for the next home game!

Have a read at the article in the link I posted.

This is surely somebody that knows what they're talking about.

[bingo70]

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I just don't get how social distancing can be implemented at any stadium, irrespective of ground size. I think these ideas are all pie in the sky. Can you imagine trying to socially distance exiting the East Stand, you'd still be there for the next home game!

Do you think we’ll go from no fans one week to a full stadium the next?

[Ozyhibby]

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I just don't get how social distancing can be implemented at any stadium, irrespective of ground size. I think these ideas are all pie in the sky. Can you imagine trying to socially distance exiting the East Stand, you'd still be there for the next home game!

Can’t be done, let’s just give up.


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[hibee-boys]

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Do you think we’ll go from no fans one week to a full stadium the next?

There is a phase in the lockdown plan which will allow the opening of bars, cinemas and theatres etc.. Can't see why football would be treated any different. So, to answer your question, yes.

[hibee-boys]

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Can’t be done, let’s just give up.


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I'm just being realistic, i'd be back at Easter Road tomorrow given the chance. The final phase of the lockdown will allow fans back into stadiums, this talk of 20% full stadiums, families sitting together, 2 metres between seated fans is just not practical and clubs won't want the responsibility to police it.

[Ozyhibby]

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I'm just being realistic, i'd be back at Easter Road tomorrow given the chance. The final phase of the lockdown will allow fans back into stadiums, this talk of 20% full sradiums, families sitting together, 2 metres between seated fans is just not practical and clubs won't want the responsibility to poliice it.

Clubs will want whatever gets fans into stadiums. Seats will be taped up and you will only be sold tickets for the available seats. We are all well used to social distancing and know how to behave. People will respect each other’s personal space coming and going. It’s likely that there won’t be food or drink sold so cutting the number of people on the move at half time. Toilets will be a lot less busy when you can’t get a pint before the game either.
The clubs have to try these things or they are going to be in real trouble.


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[hibee-boys]

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Have a read at the article in the link I posted.

This is surely somebody that knows what they're talking about.

Yes, I read the article. It says nothing more than we know already, 2 metres apart helps limit the spread of the virus, households allowed to sit together etc. I'm talking about how practicle is it to implement within a football stadium and how the clubs will not want to be burdened with policing it all. No club will say it in the fear of impacting on season ticket sales but they will NOT be wanting to open their doors until we've reached the phase in this where the government sanctions the removal of social distancing.

[davhibby]

I think people need to realise that it’s not a suggestion for when the season starts in August. There’s no way they’ll allow us to flick a switch one day and suddenly we’ll have full stadiums so a phased approach seems to be what the sfa and the government are looking at. A couple of chairmen have been mentioning November/December or possibly October but I think that might be a bit ambitious. If playing at Murrayfield gets most of our support in the ground when otherwise you’d probably be looking at 1 in 3 games for ST’s then that can only be a good thing.

[Keith_M]

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I think people need to realise that it’s not a suggestion for when the season starts in August. There’s no way they’ll allow us to flick a switch one day and suddenly we’ll have full stadiums so a phased approach seems to be what the sfa and the government are looking at. A couple of chairmen have been mentioning November/December or possibly October but I think that might be a bit ambitious. If playing at Murrayfield gets most of our support in the ground when otherwise you’d probably be looking at 1 in 3 games for ST’s then that can only be a good thing.

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[Dashing Bob S]

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Here's a wee scenario to consider.


After an initial set of games played behind closed doors, the SPFL follow the example of some other countries and start with an initial 25% of capacity in use at stadiums. Imagine as well that Hibs, by that point, have ~12,000 Season Ticket holders.

If you play the first set of matches at Easter Road, the Season Ticket Holders would be taking it in turns to attend games, missing out on just over half of home games. Given that, it wouldn't be possible to sell Single Match Tickets (there would likely be an outcry from ST holders). This would mean no extra money for Hibs.


Now imagine instead that Hibs decided to play those games at Murrayfield. The 25% capacity would mean a maximum of 17,000 fans could attend. As that's a possible 5,000 more than the number of Season Ticket holders, the club would, in this scenario, be able to sell Single Match Tickets.

It wouldn't be outwith the realms of possibility that we could get an attendance of 15-16,000 (actually less than last season's average), meaning the club have then sold around 3-4,000 extra tickets, at an average price of about £15 each.

That would mean playing that set of games at Murrayfield would raise (depending on the actual attendance) somewhere between 45k-60k per game. The club could use that extra revenue to pay for the stadium rental.

There would also be the added benefit that no Season Ticket Holders would need to miss a single home game.

Stick an unsold Hearts replica strip around every 4th seat to ensure social distancing

[lord bunberry]

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There is a phase in the lockdown plan which will allow the opening of bars, cinemas and theatres etc.. Can't see why football would be treated any different. So, to answer your question, yes.

When bars reopen they will have to ensure social distancing at first.

[CockneyRebel]

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Can’t be done, let’s just give up.


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This a question I have been asking myself for quite some time. "What is the point of a partially filled stadium other than being used as a risk assessment which gambles with peoples lives unnecessarily ?"

My opinion - I know that "testing the water" is an oft used term but I feel that when it is safe for large, close, gatherings to go back then we can all go back, no experiments.

I am desperate to get back to ER but just not that desperate. I am just an old fart who would like to be an even older old fart.

[Andy74]

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This a question I have been asking myself for quite some time. "What is the point of a partially filled stadium other than being used as a risk assessment which gambles with peoples lives unnecessarily ?"

My opinion - I know that "testing the water" is an oft used term but I feel that when it is safe for large, close, gatherings to go back then we can all go back, no experiments.

I am desperate to get back to ER but just not that desperate. I am just an old fart who would like to be an even older old fart.

The point is to allow some people to go in and watch a football match. It is not a test to see how many people catch Covid after it.

[Keith_M]

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Stick an unsold Hearts replica strip around every 4th seat to ensure social distancing

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[Ozyhibby]

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This a question I have been asking myself for quite some time. "What is the point of a partially filled stadium other than being used as a risk assessment which gambles with peoples lives unnecessarily ?"

My opinion - I know that "testing the water" is an oft used term but I feel that when it is safe for large, close, gatherings to go back then we can all go back, no experiments.

I am desperate to get back to ER but just not that desperate. I am just an old fart who would like to be an even older old fart.

Lockdown can’t be the solution forever and it was never supposed to be. It was to buy us time while we flattened the curve. It’s served it’s purpose and we now have test and protect up and running. We now need to go back to our lives and allow the testing and tracing to prevent any major breakouts.


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[GreenCastle]

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Lockdown can’t be the solution forever and it was never supposed to be. It was to buy us time while we flattened the curve. It’s served it’s purpose and we now have test and protect up and running. We now need to go back to our lives and allow the testing and tracing to prevent any major breakouts.


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Yup. It’s been tough and also tragic for many but we are through the peak and things are improving.

Phase 2 will be coming into affect around 18th June and we will see more and more open soon.

The Scottish season will 100% be behind closed doors for first few fixtures..but it won’t be forever.

Phase 3 will probably be around July 16th I would imagine.

Phase 3 to 4 is the biggie - would imagine that to be later in Autumn.

[CockneyRebel]

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Lockdown can’t be the solution forever and it was never supposed to be. It was to buy us time while we flattened the curve. It’s served it’s purpose and we now have test and protect up and running. We now need to go back to our lives and allow the testing and tracing to prevent any major breakouts.


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There's just such a big difference between going back to work/meeting up with family again and putting a few thousand folk through turnstyles and sit them in a stadium. I'm just not convinced that getting a few thousand folk back to footy is so urgent. I can wait.