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**CB_NO3** · 25-05-2020 10:43 AM

Wonder what is happening with the players who are out of contract? Slivka and Whittaker spring to mind. Do we think they will get released?

**RossScott1991** · 25-05-2020 10:47 AM

Docherty and Naismith would like to see back.

Not fussed about the other two if I’m being honest. Think there’s better out there.

**Ozyhibby** · 25-05-2020 10:48 AM

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Have Hibs not already said there won’t be any new signings until those currently in contract are paid up in full, either by the end of 2020 or the end of season 2020/21?

No

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**Ozyhibby** · 25-05-2020 10:49 AM

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Wonder what is happening with the players who are out of contract? Slivka and Whittaker spring to mind. Do we think they will get released?

Hope so and almost certainly they will.

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**Just_Jimmy** · 25-05-2020 11:32 AM

There will be plenty of good players available on free transfers over the next few months or so. Probably for less then normal. Well run clubs will be in a position to capitalise on that once things start to restart.

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***Hibs4185*** · 25-05-2020 11:43 AM

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There will be plenty of good players available on free transfers over the next few months or so. Probably for less then normal. Well run clubs will be in a position to capitalise on that once things start to restart.

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100%. We can use this as a positive and with a little backing from the fans and RG we can look to attract the best players available on money that we can afford.

There is a good opportunity here to get the right players through the door, and with hearts hopeful demise, really push on!

**~~The 90+2~~** · 25-05-2020 11:53 AM

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Hope so and almost certainly they will.

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A shame Whittaker doesn’t get the send off deserved for his contribution for the club over the years.

**ancient hibee** · 25-05-2020 12:11 PM

Hibs won’t be in a rush to sign players contracted to other clubs when there will be hundreds available free.

**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 25-05-2020 12:23 PM

Would like to see Docherty back, highly rated by Ross so I'd imagine if we don't manage to get him back it won't be from a lack of trying.

**Jdawg** · 25-05-2020 12:24 PM

Think we need to have a semi clear out and let JR put his stamp on the team. Far too many of the same type of midfielders when we are crying out for a solid defensive midfielder. Far too soft at times.

**BegbieHSC** · 25-05-2020 12:37 PM

So...potential behind closed doors Scottish cup games in July/August a tad problematic now?

**MWHIBBIES** · 25-05-2020 12:44 PM

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A shame Whittaker doesn’t get the send off deserved for his contribution for the club over the years.

We'd be nuts to let someone with his abiltly and experience go. Hopefully offering a coaching position with every chance to move up the ranks.

**CMurdoch** · 25-05-2020 12:50 PM

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We'd be nuts to let someone with his abiltly and experience go. Hopefully offering a coaching position with every chance to move up the ranks.

Would be a good idea if we didn't have the current compliment of coaches and McGregor And Grey already contracted to slide into rookie coaching roles.

**MWHIBBIES** · 25-05-2020 12:57 PM

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Would be a good idea if we didn't have the current compliment of coaches and McGregor And Grey already contracted to slide into rookie coaching roles.

Hoenstly, he is a more experienced and more talented footballer than either of those 2, is working towards his A licence and as he helped Eddie May, already has more coaching experience.

We should be keeping all 3 but Whittaker would certainly be my first choice.

***Brightside*** · 25-05-2020 02:54 PM

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Docherty really hasn't been much better than Omeonga. Docherty is bordering on pretty overrated on here.

I do like both of them, both would be good additions and the type of players we should be signing. None are as good as the McGinn, McGeouch, Fyvie, Henderson midfield though.

Disagree. Docherty is a class player. He was guilty of probably doing too much in his last few games.

**Ozyhibby** · 25-05-2020 03:03 PM

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Hoenstly, he is a more experienced and more talented footballer than either of those 2, is working towards his A licence and as he helped Eddie May, already has more coaching experience.

We should be keeping all 3 but Whittaker would certainly be my first choice.

Which coaches should we be getting rid of? Do we have vacancies for three new coaches? Do we have the money for this?
We can’t just put every senior player on the coaching staff unless they are willing to work for next to nothing with the kids.

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**MWHIBBIES** · 25-05-2020 03:05 PM

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Which coaches should we be getting rid of? Do we have vacancies for three new coaches? Do we have the money for this?
We can’t just put every senior player on the coaching staff unless they are willing to work for next to nothing with the kids.

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I agree, we should'nt be putting every senior player on the coaching staff. In my opinion, we should be putting Whittaker there though.

What money would it require? He would be earning less as a coach than player so?

**MWHIBBIES** · 25-05-2020 03:06 PM

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Disagree. Docherty is a class player. He was guilty of probably doing too much in his last few games.

He certainly didn't do too much against Hearts. He done absolutely nothing.

**007** · 25-05-2020 03:11 PM

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Have Hibs not already said there won’t be any new signings until those currently in contract are paid up in full, either by the end of 2020 or the end of season 2020/21?

The good season ticket sales and football restarting sooner than was maybe previously thought might allow us to pay the players the deferred amounts sooner rather than initially planned, allowing us to then look at signings.

***Stonewall*** · 25-05-2020 03:11 PM

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He certainly didn't do too much against Hearts. He done absolutely nothing.

He wasn’t the only one.

**MWHIBBIES** · 25-05-2020 03:14 PM

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He wasn’t the only one.

No, but we aren't talking about signing the other ones.

**CMurdoch** · 25-05-2020 03:18 PM

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Hoenstly, he is a more experienced and more talented footballer than either of those 2, is working towards his A licence and as he helped Eddie May, already has more coaching experience.

We should be keeping all 3 but Whittaker would certainly be my first choice.

Although I love David Gray for that goal I wish we had let him leave the club when his contract expired. Would have saved us loads of money and left a coaching place for Whittaker, who I agree is a better option. Think the Gray deal was done to play to the fans sentimental side. Looking like poor business with little return on the 1st year.

**hibbysam** · 25-05-2020 03:23 PM

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Which coaches should we be getting rid of? Do we have vacancies for three new coaches? Do we have the money for this?
We can’t just put every senior player on the coaching staff unless they are willing to work for next to nothing with the kids.

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McGregor and gray aren’t lined up for coaching roles. They have four year deals, but the club made it clear it could be advisory roles etc, nothing said anywhere about coaching.

Whittaker is still an able player, but he will be an even better coach, we made a massive mistake IMO letting KT go, it would be an even bigger mistake letting Whitts go also. His wages are very low as it is, and id imagine they’ll still be fairly low venturing into coaching.

In the same vein that we need to be promoting our own youth, we need to be promoting our own senior players into higher ranks at the end of their career as well which will save us money in the long run.

**we are hibs** · 25-05-2020 09:08 PM

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Although I love David Gray for that goal I wish we had let him leave the club when his contract expired. Would have saved us loads of money and left a coaching place for Whittaker, who I agree is a better option. Think the Gray deal was done to play to the fans sentimental side. Looking like poor business with little return on the 1st year.

Youve absolutely no idea if Whittaker would make a better coach than Gray so you're basing him being a "better option" on absolutely nothing.

**~~The 90+2~~** · 25-05-2020 09:17 PM

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I agree, we should'nt be putting every senior player on the coaching staff. In my opinion, we should be putting Whittaker there though.

What money would it require? He would be earning less as a coach than player so?

I’m in this camp but I’m sure he wants to continue his playing career at the moment.

***The Modfather*** · 25-05-2020 09:25 PM

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Disagree. Docherty is a class player. He was guilty of probably doing too much in his last few games.

That’s how I saw him as well. Think he suffered the same way Omronga did in his first spell in having to do a lot of jobs in midfield he normally wouldn’t have to, because the others in midfield wouldn’t or couldn’t.

He’s still young and needs to develop in some areas, mainly consistency. I still see him as a key signing and someone who can grow into as close to a McGinn replacement as we can probably hope for. His time at Hamilton, what we’ve seen so far and by all accounts hid loan at Shrewsbury show he is a good player and one to get excited about.

**hibbysam** · 25-05-2020 10:56 PM

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Youve absolutely no idea if Whittaker would make a better coach than Gray so you're basing him being a "better option" on absolutely nothing.

Apart from Whittaker playing at a far higher level, under far better coaches, and already a fair way through his coaching badges with coaching experience. I’d guess that’s a fairly decent stance to take that Whitts will be a better coach that SDG.

Gray and Daz will more than likely go into ambassador/advisory roles within the club rather than coaching roles.

**SideBurns** · 26-05-2020 06:53 AM

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He wasn’t the only one.

Aye, if the futures of every Hibs player were based on the Hearts performance we wouldn't be looking to keep any of them! Since the season came to an abrupt halt shortly after, it is a game that lingers in the memory unfortunately but had it continued Docherty (along with his teammates from that evening) would hopefully have taken the opportunity to redeem himself. His other appearances would suggest he is a classy player with room to develop further.