Dunfermline release 17 players due to Covid19

[BlackSheep]

What it says on the tin... I’m betting Nisbet isn’t one of them though!

[TamHibs]

It’s the 17 players who are out of contract.


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[RoxburghHibs]

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What it says on the tin... I’m betting Nisbet isn’t one of them though!

Does he have one year left on his contract?

[Vault Boy]

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Does he have one year left on his contract?

Yep

[calumhibee1]

Remember Fraser wishart on sportsound saying he hoped clubs would keep these players on so they could get furlough for a few months. Must be a reason why this has happened

[04Sauzee]

Wonder how many contracted players Dunfermline have?

[Peevemor]

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Remember Fraser wishart on sportsound saying he hoped clubs would keep these players on so they could get furlough for a few months. Must be a reason why this has happened

Sorry if it's been discussed elsewhere, but are employers permitted to renew temporary contracts to keep people on furlough?

[Tyler Durden]

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Remember Fraser wishart on sportsound saying he hoped clubs would keep these players on so they could get furlough for a few months. Must be a reason why this has happened

I think clubs will simply see that as unethical and I’d agree with them

Edit - to clarify I mean the scenario that Richard Foster of Ross County mentioned where players could be re-signed for 2-3 months just to basically wait and see what happens.

[calumhibee1]

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Sorry if it's been discussed elsewhere, but are employers permitted to renew temporary contracts to keep people on furlough?

Possibly not and could be the reason they have been released. Would like to think the PFA were aware of that so they could inform players

[Blaster]

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Possibly not and could be the reason they have been released. Would like to think the PFA were aware of that so they could inform players

The Ross County owner said on his Q&A that extending someone’s contract who they have no intention of keeping goes against the spirit of the furlough scheme and he won’t be doing it.

[Frazerbob]

https://twitter.com/Amy__Macdonald/s...667806726?s=19

[sean04]

Bet they wish they had accepted the bids for Nesbit in January

[Blaster]

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https://twitter.com/Amy__Macdonald/s...667806726?s=19

She misses the point of furlough. It is meant for employers who intend to retain the staff going forward. If you don’t intend giving players a new contract you should not be extending them temporarily to get furlough money

[Frazerbob]

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She misses the point of furlough. It is meant for employers who intend to retain the staff going forward. If you don’t intend giving players a new contract you should not be extending them temporarily to get furlough money

I rehired someone, who hadn’t started his new job, to put him on furlough. Had I not, his family would’ve been using food banks by now.

[Blaster]

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I rehired someone, who hadn’t started his new job, to put him on furlough. Had I not, his family would’ve been using food banks by now.

And I’ve no doubt many employers have done that. I’m not saying I disagree with that happening but it’s not what furlough was really meant for. Fair play to you for doing that 👍

[Tyler Durden]

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I rehired someone, who hadn’t started his new job, to put him on furlough. Had I not, his family would’ve been using food banks by now.

I may well have done the same in your situation and I’m sure there will be a lot of similar stories out there.

However football teams can’t be doing that IMO. Even the likes of Dunfermline have a public profile and it would be pretty transparent that they were basically abusing the system.

Unfortunately lots of young/lower league footballers could end up on the dole or looking for alternative work. Teams extending contracts for a few months isn’t going to change that.

[Brightside]

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Sorry if it's been discussed elsewhere, but are employers permitted to renew temporary contracts to keep people on furlough?

Yes.

[Brightside]

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I rehired someone, who hadn’t started his new job, to put him on furlough. Had I not, his family would’ve been using food banks by now.

Yep. As have loads of companies. It’s the right thing to do. Some of these players will be on buttons. Forster I’m not fussed about as he’s had years to build up a nest egg and he will still have a decent household income.

[Pretty Boy]

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She misses the point of furlough. It is meant for employers who intend to retain the staff going forward. If you don’t intend giving players a new contract you should not be extending them temporarily to get furlough money

I get there is an ethical question about misusing furlough. At the same time I wouldn't be overly upset if guys at that level of football had a bit security for a couple of months whilst they tried to sort out something else for themselves, whether that be inside or outside football.

It might be morally dubious to do that I suppose, however it may allow a player to remain in the game as the situation develops and clubs have more clarity on how football is likely to be played in the coming months.

[Frazerbob]

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Yep. As have loads of companies. It’s the right thing to do. Some of these players will be on buttons. Forster I’m not fussed about as he’s had years to build up a nest egg and he will still have a decent household income.

Aye, his missus is minted lol

[MWHIBBIES]

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She misses the point of furlough. It is meant for employers who intend to retain the staff going forward. If you don’t intend giving players a new contract you should not be extending them temporarily to get furlough money

They released their captain. No way they planned on releasing 17 players, this is hugely driven by the crisis.

[Rumble de Thump]

Out of contract players will be able to apply for financial support through Universal Credit and they will get it if they need it.

[Billy Whizz]

Unfortunately this is only the start of players getting released and not being offered a new contract

[CraigHibee]

I think there could potentially be a few gems around to pick up over the summer

[Brooster]

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And I’ve no doubt many employers have done that. I’m not saying I disagree with that happening but it’s not what furlough was really meant for. Fair play to you for doing that 👍

Spot on. The SPFL advised Dunfermline against furlough as it is a misuse of public funds keeping someone on for 3 months who will never play for the club. I agree with the SPFL.

[Since452]

That's an expensive half million odd they turned down from us and United

[Centre Hawf]

If it was possible they should have kept them on for 2-3 months and kept them on furlough. These guys are human beings who have all just lost their job in the middle of a pandemic and will either not get a club for a while or not find another job until then easily.

I'm not sure if this was Sports Direct or similar doing this to their people some folk would be as kind to them.

[Brightside]

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Aye, his missus is minted lol

She’s not minted but they have a decent income. These boys at Dunfermline will have nothing.

[Brightside]

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Spot on. The SPFL advised Dunfermline against furlough as it is a misuse of public funds keeping someone on for 3 months who will never play for the club. I agree with the SPFL.

Other clubs are doing it.

[marinello59]

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Spot on. The SPFL advised Dunfermline against furlough as it is a misuse of public funds keeping someone on for 3 months who will never play for the club. I agree with the SPFL.

They are employees who may or may not have been kept on if the Pandemeic had not happened. I think the SPFL advice is wrong. There are thousands of employees being paid by firms who will already know that there will be no position remaining for them after lock down.
I think there may be a problem for clubs though when they have to start paying a portion of the furloughed wages from August 1st. I don’t think it has been clarified yet what that percentage will be.