Open Goal: Top ten players outside the OF

**Just_Jimmy** · 22-05-2020 10:28 AM

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He signed for the Rangers so wouldn't count. I'd have Sauzee and McFadden as the greatest for the careers they've had.

I know that. I was quoting the previous poster who mentioned him but not his name.

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**Sir David Gray** · 22-05-2020 10:29 AM

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Ravanelli and Cannigia at Dundee worth a shout.

GGTTH

Caniggia played for the huns so wouldn't count.

**Gloucester Hibs** · 22-05-2020 10:29 AM

Considering Aberdeen’s domination of being the “best of the rest”, not many standout players spring to mind? Shinnie I guess, and McLean has done well at Norwich.

**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 22-05-2020 10:36 AM

Kasper Schmeichel and Tim Krul both played for Falkirk.

**Sir David Gray** · 22-05-2020 10:39 AM

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Considering Aberdeen’s domination of being the “best of the rest”, not many standout players spring to mind? Shinnie I guess, and McLean has done well at Norwich.

Ryan Fraser?

**Gloucester Hibs** · 22-05-2020 10:39 AM

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Ryan Fraser?

Good shout.

**Barman Stanton** · 22-05-2020 11:14 AM

They were absolutely gushing about Steven Fletcher. Couldn’t praise him enough. Yet hardly even mentioned here. Always found it weird that many Hibs fans don’t seem to rate Fletcher all that much. Perhaps we were spoilt with the other young strikers we had at the time. Thought he was a great player though and would be high up on my list (behind Sauzee and McGinn).

**Just_Jimmy** · 22-05-2020 11:19 AM

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They were absolutely gushing about Steven Fletcher. Couldn’t praise him enough. Yet hardly even mentioned here. Always found it weird that many Hibs fans don’t seem to rate Fletcher all that much. Perhaps we were spoilt with the other young strikers we had at the time. Thought he was a great player though and would be high up on my list (behind Sauzee and McGinn).

Also often feel his two goals in the 2007 final get forgotten. Maybe this is just due to the recent Scottish cup win.

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**~~calumhibee1~~** · 22-05-2020 11:36 AM

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They were absolutely gushing about Steven Fletcher. Couldn’t praise him enough. Yet hardly even mentioned here. Always found it weird that many Hibs fans don’t seem to rate Fletcher all that much. Perhaps we were spoilt with the other young strikers we had at the time. Thought he was a great player though and would be high up on my list (behind Sauzee and McGinn).

I never really took to Fletcher in the same way as many of our young players. His goals record was average at best which as a striker I always thought meant he was over rated.

To be fair I now realise he’s good at other things and brings more to the teams he plays for than just goals. I still don’t think he’s exceptional though.

**JammyDoidger** · 22-05-2020 01:35 PM

Ooooh Zemmama

**JammyDoidger** · 22-05-2020 01:39 PM

Some of the livi players were Absoloutely superb when they were finishing in the european spots.
juanjo Camacho
rolando zarate
Quino
to name a few.

**hibbysam** · 22-05-2020 01:47 PM

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I never really took to Fletcher in the same way as many of our young players. His goals record was average at best which as a striker I always thought meant he was over rated.

To be fair I now realise he’s good at other things and brings more to the teams he plays for than just goals. I still don’t think he’s exceptional though.

Mental. His goal record was something like 1 in 3, which isn’t ‘average’ when you think of how good he was technically, how many of those games he played in when he was 17-20 years old(more than half his games for us), and how much he brought other people into play. The best player to come through our youth academy and his career has shown that.

**NASAHIBS** · 22-05-2020 01:52 PM

Jim Leighton for a goalkeeper must have a shout.

**Barman Stanton** · 22-05-2020 02:20 PM

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Mental. His goal record was something like 1 in 3, which isn’t ‘average’ when you think of how good he was technically, how many of those games he played in when he was 17-20 years old(more than half his games for us), and how much he brought other people into play. The best player to come through our youth academy and his career has shown that.

He also played out on the left for many of his games.

***erin go bragh*** · 22-05-2020 02:24 PM

Garry O’Connor no 😉

**Gloucester Hibs** · 22-05-2020 02:34 PM

Re: Fletcher. There are very few players who, when they eventually move on, you can say (even with green-tinted glasses on) that they have reached a higher level and deserve their move. McGinn and Scott Brown a couple of others.

Fletch also transformed himself into a strong imposing centre forward by the end of his Hibs career which he wasn’t when playing understudy to Deeks and GOC.

**Del Boy** · 22-05-2020 03:20 PM

Russell Anderson at Aberdeen and Kjell Olofsson at United are two players who always stood out

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 22-05-2020 04:22 PM

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Mental. His goal record was something like 1 in 3, which isn’t ‘average’ when you think of how good he was technically, how many of those games he played in when he was 17-20 years old(more than half his games for us), and how much he brought other people into play. The best player to come through our youth academy and his career has shown that.

It’s much closer to one in four than one in three - with him getting around 10 per season on average.

Like I said, I’ve appreciated more as I’ve got older that there’s more to being a striker than purely scoring goals - and that’s more his game. But it’s still the biggest part of a strikers game and considering his record at us I’m surprised we got what we did for him.

I also reckon Browns career has had a much more successful career than Fletcher who kept getting relegated and has more found his level in the championship now.

**MWHIBBIES** · 22-05-2020 05:11 PM

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It’s much closer to one in four than one in three - with him getting around 10 per season on average.

Like I said, I’ve appreciated more as I’ve got older that there’s more to being a striker than purely scoring goals - and that’s more his game. But it’s still the biggest part of a strikers game and considering his record at us I’m surprised we got what we did for him.

I also reckon Browns career has had a much more successful career than Fletcher who kept getting relegated and has more found his level in the championship now.

Of course it has been more successful, he has sat at Celtic dominated with a dead rangers providing zero challenge.

Fletcher was a very solid premier league player for 3 years before injuries and fitness issues hurt him. That was his level, well above the one Brown played at tbh.

**1875Sean** · 22-05-2020 05:13 PM

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Garry O’Connor no 😉

To be fair to them they did mention Garry and Fletch along with McGinn and Sauzee

Loved it when big Kevin Kyle mentions Skacel and the other boys went on to say he wouldn’t get in an old firm team

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 22-05-2020 05:27 PM

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Of course it has been more successful, he has sat at Celtic dominated with a dead rangers providing zero challenge.

Fletcher was a very solid premier league player for 3 years before injuries and fitness issues hurt him. That was his level, well above the one Brown played at tbh.

I’m not just talking about trophies - he’s captained one of the biggest clubs in Britain for about 10 years maybe? Played in some massive European games, win over Barcelona etc. Captained his country for years. Will go down as a legend at one of the biggest clubs in Britain. Whether it was in Scotland or not, Browns career has been a hell of a lot more impressive than Fletchers where he’s been relegated a few times in the EPL, scored a few goals in it, played for Scotland on and off and spent most of it in the Championship.

I’ve nothing against Fletch btw

***LeithMike*** · 22-05-2020 05:45 PM

Mark Viduka. Temperamental but on his day he was a fantastic player. I remember a 0-0 game at Easter Road I think under McLeish or Sauzee's management and Viduka was pure class.

Moravcik was also a cracking player but I'd have to go with Russell over him.

David Murphy was also a great shout. One of the most underrated players ever. If he'd had pace he would have been a world beater.

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**Since452** · 22-05-2020 05:49 PM

Some belters.

Eremenko at Killie was sheer quality

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 22-05-2020 05:55 PM

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Mark Viduka. Temperamental but on his day he was a fantastic player. I remember a 0-0 game at Easter Road I think under McLeish or Sauzee's management and Viduka was pure class.

Moravcik was also a cracking player but I'd have to go with Russell over him.

David Murphy was also a great shout. One of the most underrated players ever. If he'd had pace he would have been a world beater.

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Outside the OF. Moravcik was very good though.

**HibeeSince85** · 22-05-2020 06:00 PM

I was a bit vague on the OP. The players have to have played in Scotland since 1998 but never for the OF

What’s struck me is how many we have had. Sauzee, Zitelli, big Gaz, Fletch, Zemmama, Murph, SJM

**Pretty Boy** · 22-05-2020 06:08 PM

Juan Sara at Dundee was a player I enjoyed watching. Fabian Cabalerro was an outstanding player, right out the top drawer. Speroni the keeper as well. They had some great players at that time.

Fyssas at Hearts is an obvious one. He was far too good for that gang. Annoyingly I'd include Skacel in the list as well, when he fancied it he was a cracking player. Colin Cameron, who is a really nice guy, as well. I'm wary of starting a Hearts love in but Bruno Aguiar is a player I would have absolutely loved to have seen in a Hibs strip. He was another who was too good for them

Andy Robertson won't be remembered for his spell at Dundee Utd in years to come but he didn't get a move south for nothing. I know he started at Celtic but I'm not counting that.

Aberdeen is a team I go blank with when thinking about top players in recent years. Maddison obviously but he's kicked on a lot since his spell there. Zerouali was a bit of an entertainer.

McCarthy and McArthur at Hamilton. Both quite obviously destined for bigger things and were stand outs in their teens in that team.

McFadden at Motherwell. A proper old fashioned get you out of your seat type.

I'm taking the Hibs candidates as a given and I think most have already been mentioned.

**hibbysam** · 23-05-2020 07:20 AM

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It’s much closer to one in four than one in three - with him getting around 10 per season on average.

Like I said, I’ve appreciated more as I’ve got older that there’s more to being a striker than purely scoring goals - and that’s more his game. But it’s still the biggest part of a strikers game and considering his record at us I’m surprised we got what we did for him.

I also reckon Browns career has had a much more successful career than Fletcher who kept getting relegated and has more found his level in the championship now.

Sorry, a goal every 3.6 games across his hibs career. He only scored 15 in 70 games in his first three seasons though at 17, 18 and 19, which in some way wrecks his stats.

His last three seasons were exceptional and you can mention his relegations, but then there’s a reason that he went for big bucks after his relegation. He also went and played for one of the biggest clubs in France. There’s not a massive abundance of players outwith the old firm up here, and outside the top 6 down south, average over 10 goals a season in the league and have a better all round game.

Browns a good player, in my opinion he was even better at us than he is now, but he has matured, but in reality he’s coasted to a load of titles up here.

**where'stheslope** · 23-05-2020 10:40 AM

Maybe a little controversial but I think Craig Levein was a great player and was going to get better until injuries ravaged his career.
Much the same has happened to Soapy Souttar, looked very promising then horrendous injuries.