Salary cap

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 01:36 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/foot...mpression=true

I’ve long thought this is the only way to make Scottish football competitive. As we appear only to think things are a good idea once England does it theses days, this could be a step in the right direction.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***1 8 7 5*** · 20-05-2020 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/foot...mpression=true

I’ve long thought this is the only way to make Scottish football competitive. As we appear only to think things are a good idea once England does it theses days, this could be a step in the right direction.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No danger that will go ahead up here.

**~~Peevemor~~** · 20-05-2020 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/foot...mpression=true

I’ve long thought this is the only way to make Scottish football competitive. As we appear only to think things are a good idea once England does it theses days, this could be a step in the right direction.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That could certainly help Scottish clubs in terms of keeping/signing players.

**Sir David Gray** · 20-05-2020 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/foot...mpression=true

I’ve long thought this is the only way to make Scottish football competitive. As we appear only to think things are a good idea once England does it theses days, this could be a step in the right direction.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Even if it's not brought in up here, it might stop Scottish Premiership clubs from losing a lot of decent players to Leagues One and Two in England.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by 1 8 7 5

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

No danger that will go ahead up here.

It’s in the interests of 10, maybe 11 of the clubs to have a £5m salary cap in the league. It’s only because it’s not done elsewhere that it hasn’t happened here. Covid 19 might change that. It’s possible that other European countries start to do the same to reign in costs.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***Jim44*** · 20-05-2020 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/foot...mpression=true

I’ve long thought this is the only way to make Scottish football competitive. As we appear only to think things are a good idea once England does it theses days, this could be a step in the right direction.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you suggesting this would be across the board in all leagues? I wonder what the ugly sisters would have to say about this hindering their European campaigns.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jim44

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Are you suggesting this would be across the board in all leagues? I wonder what the ugly sisters would have to say about this hindering their European campaigns.

Sevco might se it as a chance to get parity with Celtic and not worry too much about Europe?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***Diclonius*** · 20-05-2020 01:53 PM

A worldwide transfer and salary cap is the only thing that might make football more competitive rather than a two/three horse race in most countries. That's also precisely why UEFA will never approve it.

**~~Peevemor~~** · 20-05-2020 01:54 PM

Salary caps won't happen in any top leagues, or if they do they'll far exceed anything that will effect even the OF.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Peevemor

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Salary caps won't happen in any top leagues, or if they do they'll far exceed anything that will effect even the OF.

Remember that salary caps benefit owners the most. Plenty big clubs are owned by Americans who love salary caps.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***danhibees1875*** · 20-05-2020 02:39 PM

This alone could be quite good for the Scottish game to be fair. If they introduced 20 team squads and £2.5M in league 1 their average wage would be £2.4k a week. Obviously they could have higher and lower earners but I think we'd probably no longer see a situation where Scottish players can earn more in league 1/2 or where it costs us a fortune to get L1/2 players in who aren't good enough.

As for it being in place up here, I can't see it happening. It also seems unfair, something along the lines of a % of income cap would seem more reasonable - 75% or whatever is realistic.

**04Sauzee** · 20-05-2020 02:51 PM

We could potentially compete with Sunderland for players if they introduce the salary cap in England 👀👀

**Lunatic** · 20-05-2020 02:53 PM

This would be the best thing ever to happen to Scottish football.
What about a salery cap for the league. Europe and the cups - no limit.

**GlazedDonut** · 20-05-2020 03:47 PM

20 player limit could be an interesting move for the Scottish game. Could potentially stop Celtic buying up all the decent players from competing clubs and letting them rot in the reserves. Not quite sure how it could/would be enforced with long term injuries etc tho.

Never gonna happen since it won’t benefit celtic/rangers but it’s things like this that would need to happen to improve the Scottish game.

**Michael** · 20-05-2020 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Lunatic

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

This would be the best thing ever to happen to Scottish football.
What about a salery cap for the league. Europe and the cups - no limit.

So you have players that play in cup and Europe only?

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Michael

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

So you have players that play in cup and Europe only?

No but salary caps can be designed so that extra payments can be payed to veterans of your club or to players that have come through your own youth set up.
A good marketable league is one which is competitive. Celtic and Rangers would still have an advantage from their bigger youth academies and their ability to attract the best coaches outside the salary cap but it gives everyone else a chance.
A cap set at about £6m per season still means they would spend more than most of the league but it brings other teams into the fight.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**Duke of Currie** · 20-05-2020 05:16 PM

Always thoughth this would be agood idea , but thought that if the salary cap was a % of turnover would force clubs to stay within limits relative to the size of the club and allow larger clubs the opportunity to pay the higher wages where they required but still within the threshold.
Also , the squad sizes would be placed a set limit but cubs playing in Europe would be allowed a few exra players in the squad due to the additional games or length of the season.

**~~hibbyfraelibby~~** · 20-05-2020 05:24 PM

Squad limit work well in the NFL where there is a 45? Player rule. If a pkayer gets seriously injured you can de-activate them for remainder of season up to play offs and replace them with a player off the injured reserve roster to a max of 5 times per season.

**ancient hibee** · 20-05-2020 05:31 PM

It would lead to even more fraud in football just as it has in the rugby down south.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by ancient hibee

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

It would lead to even more fraud in football just as it has in the rugby down south.

Where teams tend to be caught and punished. That would be tricky in Scotland right enough.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**ancient hibee** · 20-05-2020 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Where teams tend to be caught and punished. That would be tricky in Scotland right enough.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They're talking of punishing them again too.

**Haymaker** · 20-05-2020 05:54 PM

Would be interesting but I think every country would have to go for it: could see a scenario where one or two don't and they hoover all the best players up.

Would definitely like to see a tighter squad limit though, force teams to really invest in and develop youth players.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Haymaker

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Would be interesting but I think every country would have to go for it: could see a scenario where one or two don't and they hoover all the best players up.

Would definitely like to see a tighter squad limit though, force teams to really invest in and develop youth players.

Scotland isn’t exactly getting to hoover up any talent anyway. We could do it without affecting the quality of player apart from Celtic and Rangers. Hibs would be unaffected.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**Haymaker** · 20-05-2020 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Scotland isn’t exactly getting to hoover up any talent anyway. We could do it without affecting the quality of player apart from Celtic and Rangers. Hibs would be unaffected.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

While true, there's no way Celtc or Sevco go for it just here.

There's definitely some more over sight into clubs wages/overspending etc needed so anything that helps address that is good.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Haymaker

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

While true, there's no way Celtc or Sevco go for it just here.

There's definitely some more over sight into clubs wages/overspending etc needed so anything that helps address that is good.

Sevco might be tempted by something that brings Celtic closer to the pack.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

***Eyrie*** · 20-05-2020 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Duke of Currie

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Always thoughth this would be agood idea , but thought that if the salary cap was a % of turnover would force clubs to stay within limits relative to the size of the club and allow larger clubs the opportunity to pay the higher wages where they required but still within the threshold.
Also , the squad sizes would be placed a set limit but cubs playing in Europe would be allowed a few exra players in the squad due to the additional games or length of the season.

Makes sense.

I loathe both Ugly Sisters but don't think it's right to deny them the ability to spend the money that they make. I wouldn't be happy if our wage bill was restricted by a salary cap set at a level Hamilton can afford.

It's also got the big advantage of ensuring teams live within in their means.

**Antifa Hibs** · 20-05-2020 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

No but salary caps can be designed so that extra payments can be payed to veterans of your club or to players that have come through your own youth set up.
A good marketable league is one which is competitive. Celtic and Rangers would still have an advantage from their bigger youth academies and their ability to attract the best coaches outside the salary cap but it gives everyone else a chance.
A cap set at about £6m per season still means they would spend more than most of the league but it brings other teams into the fight.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why £6m which i suspect will be our wage bill fairly soon if/when football and the economy gets going?

Surely if fairness is the aim of the game you cap it at the lowest wage bill? So Hamilton's I'd guess at maybe £1.5m a year?

**MWHIBBIES** · 20-05-2020 07:29 PM

Not a hope in hell players or their unions would agree to this. Rightfully so.

**Ozyhibby** · 20-05-2020 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Antifa Hibs

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Why £6m which i suspect will be our wage bill fairly soon if/when football and the economy gets going?

Surely if fairness is the aim of the game you cap it at the lowest wage bill? So Hamilton's I'd guess at maybe £1.5m a year?

That’s why I picked it.

if you want it to happen then you need inconvenience as few teams as possible. At that level it only affect two massively and the other two might be happy to cut back if they have more chance of silverware.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk