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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    What a move for Spurs..and Deli would be a great move for him too
    Spurs by far getting the better player, never got the Dele Ali hype


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    Spurs by far getting the better player, never got the Dele Ali hype
    Had 2 great seasons then went off the boil a bit. Got a bit of an attitude problem imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by pontius pilate View Post
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    Yeah he certainly hasn't lost it, I think spurs and bale just fit, would Jose be the man to get thim back to his best I think he would be, the pep talk he gave Kane and Dier in the documentary tells me he is still the right man for spurs, the left back is certainly a good signing as well

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    Mourinho is never the right man for Spurs. It will end in tears - just a question of how stubborn everyone is until they admit the experiment has failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Mourinho is never the right man for Spurs. It will end in tears - just a question of how stubborn everyone is until they admit the experiment has failed.
    Mourinho is yesterday’s man, and it’s just a question of how many jobs he’s going to be given to pick up extraordinary wages to fail - before everyone cottons on.

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    Mourinho is yesterday’s man, and it’s just a question of how many jobs he’s going to be given to pick up extraordinary wages to fail - before everyone cottons on.
    Have you watched the spurs documentary? I was really surprised how different and down to earth he is.
    Still a top manager.

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    Have you watched the spurs documentary? I was really surprised how different and down to earth he is.
    Still a top manager.
    A lot of people decided on Jose based on press or fan forums. He remains one of the best coaches in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    A lot of people decided on Jose based on press or fan forums. He remains one of the best coaches in the game.
    Compared to Arteta and the respective jobs they are doing, in very similar circumstances, he looks like a dinosaur and one is on the way up one is on the way down.

    I do like the irony that he appears to have once been an innovator and is now being left behind. The same fate that befell Wenger, which Mourinho took great delight in. “Specialist in failure” etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    A lot of people decided on Jose based on press or fan forums. He remains one of the best coaches in the game.
    Sooner or later he’s going to have to prove that by improving a club he takes over.

    I don’t think he’s going to make Spurs better than where they were when he took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    A lot of people decided on Jose based on press or fan forums. He remains one of the best coaches in the game.
    His last two or three teams have genuinely been horrible to watch. Hugely charismatic persona however needs to start walking the walk as very much comes over as yesterday's man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    A lot of people decided on Jose based on press or fan forums. He remains one of the best coaches in the game.
    Not me I decided on his Manure mess and now Spurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Not me I decided on his Manure mess and now Spurs.
    Yep. Anti football at its finest.

    A Man United team turns up to Anfield and playing a back 6 doesn't in any way seem like a strategy of some sort of innovative super coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo6-2 View Post
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    Have you watched the spurs documentary? I was really surprised how different and down to earth he is.
    Still a top manager.

    Carefully edited to massage his image, of course. It’s not an access all areas independent documentary.

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    I think it’s a bit harsh to be so critical of Mourinho. He has won 25 trophies including a Champions League with Porto and a domestic treble with Inter, the only club to ever do so in Italy I believe.

    He gets criticised for his performance at Man Utd but finished 2nd behind a fantastic City team and won a European trophy.

    I think only Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd achieved more points than him last season after he took over at Spurs.

    I believe with two or three key signings he will win a trophy with Spurs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
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    I think it’s a bit harsh to be so critical of Mourinho. He has won 25 trophies including a Champions League with Porto and a domestic treble with Inter, the only club to ever do so in Italy I believe.

    He gets criticised for his performance at Man Utd but finished 2nd behind a fantastic City team and won a European trophy.

    I think only Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd achieved more points than him last season after he took over at Spurs.

    I believe with two or three key signings he will win a trophy with Spurs too.
    Spot on

    Could be argued he was actually a success at utd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
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    I think it’s a bit harsh to be so critical of Mourinho. He has won 25 trophies including a Champions League with Porto and a domestic treble with Inter, the only club to ever do so in Italy I believe.

    He gets criticised for his performance at Man Utd but finished 2nd behind a fantastic City team and won a European trophy.

    I think only Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd achieved more points than him last season after he took over at Spurs.

    I believe with two or three key signings he will win a trophy with Spurs too.
    I don’t think you can knock his early career.

    Man Utd as well, given what went before, he did ok in a tough gig.

    I just don’t believe he’ll be allowed to / able to sign the 2 or 3 players he needs, and I don’t think he’ll be able to get as much out of the rest of them as Poch did.

    This Bale deal would be an eye-opener right enough though.

    Modern football needs more energy and attacking intent that Mourinho’s teams have.

    I watched some of the second half of their game with Everton and they were truly abysmal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    A lot of people decided on Jose based on press or fan forums. He remains one of the best coaches in the game.
    Which is why he keeps getting sacked?

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    Compared to Arteta and the respective jobs they are doing, in very similar circumstances, he looks like a dinosaur and one is on the way up one is on the way down.

    I do like the irony that he appears to have once been an innovator and is now being left behind. The same fate that befell Wenger, which Mourinho took great delight in. “Specialist in failure” etc.
    I’d love to know what people think Arteta is doing that’s so different to Jose.

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    Sooner or later he’s going to have to prove that by improving a club he takes over.

    I don’t think he’s going to make Spurs better than where they were when he took over.
    He improved Man U. Milan. Porto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    I’d love to know what people think Arteta is doing that’s so different to Jose.
    To be fair, I'd switch on to watch the Arsenal of late but not so much Spurs

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    I’d love to know what people think Arteta is doing that’s so different to Jose.
    Arteta has improved most of the players he inherited, he even managed to make Mustafi look semi competent. What Spurs players has Mourinho improved? The likes of Harry Kane are regressing at an alarming rate given the little or no service he now gets.

    Arsenal are improving under Arteta and won a trophy last season. Where are Spurs going?

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    So, any hibs rumours

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    Arteta has improved most of the players he inherited, he even managed to make Mustafi look semi competent. What Spurs players has Mourinho improved? The likes of Harry Kane are regressing at an alarming rate given the little or no service he now gets.

    Arsenal are improving under Arteta and won a trophy last season. Where are Spurs going?
    Winks. Kane has had a major injury to deal with. He's turned Dier into a top class CH. Brought in some decent youth prospects, and signings for the next 5 years. He needs a DM and another forward, and he wont be far away from trophies. A lot of players that Poch bought were simply not up to the level.

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    So, any hibs rumours
    Fancy another McGinn ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Winks. Kane has had a major injury to deal with. He's turned Dier into a top class CH. Brought in some decent youth prospects, and signings for the next 5 years. He needs a DM and another forward, and he wont be far away from trophies. A lot of players that Poch bought were simply not up to the level.
    Can’t say I agree that Dier is a top class CH, I don’t think he’s even good enough for Spurs but agree to disagree.

    Spurs might win a domestic cup but they are getting further away from the top 4 IMO. Arsenal, Man U & Chelsea all improving at a quicker rate than Spurs, and Leicester there as well. His ceiling is now top 4 and the odd domestic cup IMO, like Wenger in the second half of his time at Arsenal. I’ll be amazed if he’s still there at the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenCastle View Post
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    Fancy another McGinn ?

    Do you mean Stephen?


    I don't know a lot about him (in terms of playing style), could he be a cheap/reasonable option to be the midfield cover/support for Gogic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Winks. Kane has had a major injury to deal with. He's turned Dier into a top class CH. Brought in some decent youth prospects, and signings for the next 5 years. He needs a DM and another forward, and he wont be far away from trophies. A lot of players that Poch bought were simply not up to the level.
    Spurs may win the odd League Cup, but miles away from winning the league. He will maybe last this season but it will implode at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    Do you mean Stephen?


    I don't know a lot about him (in terms of playing style), could he be a cheap/reasonable option to be the midfield cover/support for Gogic?
    I know nothing about him but JR will know him inside out so I’m happy to go with that, I do feel like it’s another attack minded midfielder (might be way off?) if that’s right it’ll be strange as we’re currently not playing a style or formation that suits either of the 2 we currently have

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    Can’t say I agree that Dier is a top class CH, I don’t think he’s even good enough for Spurs but agree to disagree.

    Spurs might win a domestic cup but they are getting further away from the top 4 IMO. Arsenal, Man U & Chelsea all improving at a quicker rate than Spurs, and Leicester there as well. His ceiling is now top 4 and the odd domestic cup IMO, like Wenger in the second half of his time at Arsenal. I’ll be amazed if he’s still there at the end of the season.
    Me neither, Dier is nowhere near a top class CH, I know he wants to play their but he’s miles off being good enough in that position to be considered top class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    Can’t say I agree that Dier is a top class CH, I don’t think he’s even good enough for Spurs but agree to disagree.

    Spurs might win a domestic cup but they are getting further away from the top 4 IMO. Arsenal, Man U & Chelsea all improving at a quicker rate than Spurs, and Leicester there as well. His ceiling is now top 4 and the odd domestic cup IMO, like Wenger in the second half of his time at Arsenal. I’ll be amazed if he’s still there at the end of the season.
    Agreed.

    Add in Wolves & Everton and Spurs have a fight on their hands for the Europa League places never mind top 4.
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    Fancy another McGinn ?
    We already have 2.

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