Closed doors games pay per view

[gerry]

Would it be possible to play the remaining games closed doors tested footballers and staff and pay per view the season tickets get a code to watch and anyone else want to support and watch just pay ? Is it possible ? I’m no expert

[lord bunberry]

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Would it be possible to play the remaining games closed doors tested footballers and staff and pay per view the season tickets get a code to watch and anyone else want to support and watch just pay ? Is it possible ? I’m no expert

I think that inevitably what will happen at the start of next season. I doubt strongly that it will happen to finish this season.

[Solonleith1]

It's the only way the season would get close to starting on time but I honestly think they wont want any reason that could tempt folk into congregating. You also have to wonder about football players too. They aren't immune to this. The likes of scott allan and likely others will be self isolating and would rightly question why they are being put at risk

[Billy Whizz]

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I think that inevitably what will happen at the start of next season. I doubt strongly that it will happen to finish this season.

Did Nicola not say yesterday that this was unlikely. She mentioned that groups of people would go to houses to watch the games
Although I presume, she can’t control English premier league coming into our homes

[Sir David Gray]

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Did Nicola not say yesterday that this was unlikely. She mentioned that groups of people would go to houses to watch the games
Although I presume, she can’t control English premier league coming into our homes

Yep she did and no she can't although she is part of COBRA meetings with the UK Government so there may be a UK-wide agreement for things like this.

[lord bunberry]

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It's the only way the season would get close to starting on time but I honestly think they wont want any reason that could tempt folk into congregating. You also have to wonder about football players too. They aren't immune to this. The likes of scott allan and likely others will be self isolating and would rightly question why they are being put at risk

I think the lockdown will be over by then and most people will be back at work. There’s no way offices and factories are going to be able to practice social distancing, people will have started using public transport as well. I don’t think the risk to footballers will be much greater.

[lord bunberry]

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Did Nicola not say yesterday that this was unlikely. She mentioned that groups of people would go to houses to watch the games
Although I presume, she can’t control English premier league coming into our homes

I think that there will have to be an element of trust. If trust is abused then it may be shut down again.

[Joe6-2]

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Would it be possible to play the remaining games closed doors tested footballers and staff and pay per view the season tickets get a code to watch and anyone else want to support and watch just pay ? Is it possible ? I’m no expert

I don’t see it working, what if a player or more than one test positive, or a member of staff? Start games with players short? Referee missing? Manager missing.
I just don’t see how this is possible

[ian cruise]

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Did Nicola not say yesterday that this was unlikely. She mentioned that groups of people would go to houses to watch the games
Although I presume, she can’t control English premier league coming into our homes

I am not sure it's a great argument to not do it as folk who would congregate to watch games are likely those who are doing so anyway.

What is a strong argument against is the needs to protect players and associated staff. Some players such as Allan are high risk and some may need to isolate for other reasons, some foreign players may have returned home, so if clubs can't play their strongest eleven there's an argument there. Plus first time a player tests positive after a game the whole idea is in disarray.

Don't see this being a solution unfortunately.

[ancient hibee]

Players are all over the world and won't be rushing to climb on planes to earn money instead of sitting at home to be paid it.
Perhaps UEFA officials don't get their brown envelopes if the finals aren't televised.

[bod]

Don’t think it’s fair on the clubs that host the ugly sisters missing out on the sold out away crowd that the clubs keep going on about

[NAE NOOKIE]

If it comes to this I want a huge bank of speakers all around the stadium linked to everybody's Alexa or whatever in their homes, so that when I scream 'WHAT THE FFFF WAS THAT MARCIANO !!!' at the telly it's heard all around the stadium. This is the future

[Marco G]

"The Dutch Football Association “intends not to continue” the Eredivisie season after the national government extended a ban on major events until 1 September because of coronavirus." From BBC website, plus mentions Dutch PM would not support behind closed doors matches either during that time.

Think same has happened in Ireland also.

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[lucky]

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Don’t think it’s fair on the clubs that host the ugly sisters missing out on the sold out away crowd that the clubs keep going on about

But surely away fans could purchase the game online like a home fan?

[Itsnoteasy]

Holland has to be the closest league to call
Top 2 only separated by goal difference & third place only 6 behind.

[HH81]

I'd pay for hibs games from home. Would help my recovery from the Corona virus ha.

[Yorkshire HFC]

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I'd pay for hibs games from home. Would help my recovery from the Corona virus ha.

I wonder if this will affect stadium capacity - until there's a vaccine, Easter Road might be cut to a limit of 10k - or 5k?

[blackpoolhibs]

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I wonder if this will affect stadium capacity - until there's a vaccine, Easter Road might be cut to a limit of 10k - or 5k?

I cant see there being any fans in stadiums until a vaccine is found. Football fans have never been the best behaved, and asking them to stay apart or not do something that needs stewards or police to intervene is never going to happen.

Even things like celebrating a goal, the emotion takes over and sometimes its an out of body experience, the consequences are just too awful to imagine.

This is why i dont think fans will be allowed back until it is 100% safe, and thats a long way off.

[Sir David Gray]

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I wonder if this will affect stadium capacity - until there's a vaccine, Easter Road might be cut to a limit of 10k - or 5k?

I don't think there will be ANY fans inside a Scottish football stadium until a vaccine is found.

[WhileTheChief..]

I don’t think there will be any football until a vaccine is found.

There’s absolutely no way that players can play, even behind closed doors.

It can take between 2-5 days for any symptoms to show so how do you ensure every player is virus free?

You can’t. Which means they can’t start playing football until this can be guaranteed.

[CockneyRebel]

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I don't think there will be ANY fans inside a Scottish football stadium until a vaccine is found.

I read today that the British scientists are beginning tests on a vaccine with volunteers tomorrow but likely to be at least a six month exercise. I would think if that timeline is anywhere near the mark then it puts the kibosh on any available vaccine until near the end of this year so 2020/2021 season would have to be a non starter. I reckon too many folk are mixing up what they hope for with what is most likely.

[Sir David Gray]

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I read today that the British scientists are beginning tests on a vaccine with volunteers tomorrow but likely to be at least a six month exercise. I would think if that timeline is anywhere near the mark then it puts the kibosh on any available vaccine this year so 2020/2021 season would have to be a non starter. I reckon too many folk are mixing up what they hope for with what is most likely.

I would agree.

I think it's wishful thinking (understandable) to think that football will be played in Scotland at the moment.

[lord bunberry]

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I read today that the British scientists are beginning tests on a vaccine with volunteers tomorrow but likely to be at least a six month exercise. I would think if that timeline is anywhere near the mark then it puts the kibosh on any available vaccine until near the end of this year so 2020/2021 season would have to be a non starter. I reckon too many folk are mixing up what they hope for with what is most likely.

I’m mot saying you’re wrong, but if everything you say is correct then people won’t be able to go back to work before a vaccine is found, people won’t be able to use public transport in any numbers. By August we’d hopefully be at a point where the virus has been contained. There’s no way the lockdown can continue as long as August as it would become worse than the virus itself. I think the season will be able to start on time, but behind closed doors.

[CockneyRebel]

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I’m mot saying you’re wrong, but if everything you say is correct then people won’t be able to go back to work before a vaccine is found, people won’t be able to use public transport in any numbers. By August we’d hopefully be at a point where the virus has been contained. There’s no way the lockdown can continue as long as August as it would become worse than the virus itself. I think the season will be able to start on time, but behind closed doors.

Worse than dying?

The sky has never been so full of pie.

[lord bunberry]

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Worse than dying?

The sky has never been so full of pie.

The extreme poverty a 6 month lockdown would cause would lead to deaths. I would suggest it’s pie in the sky to think a lockdown could be maintained for that long. Already countries are slowly exiting lockdown and as long as there isn’t a second wave the lockdown will continue to be eased. Whether that means football will be permitted, nobody knows. There’s already talk of a traffic light system being put in place via an app on your phone, this would allow some people to return to work.

[silverhibee]

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I’m mot saying you’re wrong, but if everything you say is correct then people won’t be able to go back to work before a vaccine is found, people won’t be able to use public transport in any numbers. By August we’d hopefully be at a point where the virus has been contained. There’s no way the lockdown can continue as long as August as it would become worse than the virus itself. I think the season will be able to start on time, but behind closed doors.

Players would have to go in to quarantine to even play games behind closed doors, you couldn't expect players to be tested every few weeks when NHS staff can't get tested, coaches managers referee officials and everyone else involved would also need testing and go into quarantine as well, all these people would not be able to be with there families for gods knows how long, also is it not a rule that games that are played need medical staff and ambulance on sight for games, loads of doctors would have to attend games as well, we won't be playing football for a good bit no matter what folk say, Nicola has made that quite clear, mass gatherings are a thing of the past, showing football games on tv would only encourage folk to do that, our FM won't be allowing football to be played in Scotland for a long time.

[PeeJay]

We are considering a return to "closed-doors" games here in Germany. A major issue however - and I fail to see how it isn't the same in the UK - is the clear need for testing of players, squads, playing staff, coaching staff, and even media staff and so on who would be involved in any games being played and broadcast. One estimation here for the Bundesliga I, II & III as issued by the DFL (source: https://gfx.sueddeutsche.de/pdf/Medi...t_Training.pdf) is that players (and all the others involved) would need to be tested - this would involve testing before the team restarts training as a team, testing prior to games on a weekly basis (or 2 tests if midweek games are involved) - we have generally 9 games left to play over here (Germany) so that entails at least ten tests per player, coach. etc ... we then end up with a overall amount of roughly 20,000 tests required! This figure will be different in the UK ...

We have to look after the health and safety of everyone involved in the game and this includes the above-mentioned.

So, the question then arises why should one sector of the community be given special preference and be tested on a regular basis, using up valuable time and testing resources? Wouldn't such tests be better made with hospital staff, carers etc? The situation with testing is quite poor in the UK as far as I can see from here - on what basis are games supposed to start up again UK wide? What about the players and their health? Have any of the UK football authorities drawn up a similar concept?

I can't see how football can be back up and running any time soon ...

[CockneyRebel]

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The extreme poverty a 6 month lockdown would cause would lead to deaths. I would suggest it’s pie in the sky to think a lockdown could be maintained for that long. Already countries are slowly exiting lockdown and as long as there isn’t a second wave the lockdown will continue to be eased. Whether that means football will be permitted, nobody knows. There’s already talk of a traffic light system being put in place via an app on your phone, this would allow some people to return to work.

More than the virus? All of your post rests on the predictability of the behavior of this virus which we don't have. I agree re the huge economic problems we would/will incur but we need people to be there to rebuild that economy. This could all blow over in a few months and it is right to prepare for such an eventuality in an ongoing manner but you have to balance the trauma of lockdown against the risks of underestimating the consequences of relaxing restrictions too early.
I am usually a glass half full geezer but most of the medical professionals are far from confident of where this is going and I look to them more than any FAs or politicians.

[CockneyRebel]

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We are considering a return to "closed-doors" games here in Germany. A major issue however - and I fail to see how it isn't the same in the UK - is the clear need for testing of players, squads, playing staff, coaching staff, and even media staff and so on who would be involved in any games being played and broadcast. One estimation here for the Bundesliga I, II & III as issued by the DFL (source: https://gfx.sueddeutsche.de/pdf/Medi...t_Training.pdf) is that players (and all the others involved) would need to be tested - this would involve testing before the team restarts training as a team, testing prior to games on a weekly basis (or 2 tests if midweek games are involved) - we have generally 9 games left to play over here (Germany) so that entails at least ten tests per player, coach. etc ... we then end up with a overall amount of roughly 20,000 tests required! This figure will be different in the UK ...

We have to look after the health and safety of everyone involved in the game and this includes the above-mentioned.

So, the question then arises why should one sector of the community be given special preference and be tested on a regular basis, using up valuable time and testing resources? Wouldn't such tests be better made with hospital staff, carers etc? The situation with testing is quite poor in the UK as far as I can see from here - on what basis are games supposed to start up again UK wide? What about the players and their health? Have any of the UK football authorities drawn up a similar concept?

I can't see how football can be back up and running any time soon ...

Thanks for this post and I hope many people read it and pass on your comments pal. Stay safe.

[Badabing]

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The extreme poverty a 6 month lockdown would cause would lead to deaths. I would suggest it’s pie in the sky to think a lockdown could be maintained for that long. Already countries are slowly exiting lockdown and as long as there isn’t a second wave the lockdown will continue to be eased. Whether that means football will be permitted, nobody knows. There’s already talk of a traffic light system being put in place via an app on your phone, this would allow some people to return to work.

First of all let me say that I don't think anybody knows for sure where we'll be come August. The chief executive of my company, who is a shrewd cookie, has geared as many of us to work from home as is possible and has told us that she thinks things will be this way for quite some time. There may be a gradual lifting of the lockdown, as is happening in some countries, to allow some people to return to work where they can do that in relative safety and which would not threaten over extending the NHS.

I am very sceptical that the UK Government and certainly the Scottish Government would view playing matches behind closed doors as a step which would not pose a risk to the NHS. I think that they are all too aware of very tribal nature of scottish football and televising the games could result in carnage and create a greater risk of a second wave assuming things have calmed down by August.

It's just an opinion but I'll be very surprised there is a ball kicked this year in Scotland.