NO to reconstruction

[Eyrie]

The best solution for me continues to be the 12/12=8/8/8 model, with regionalised leagues below that.

It gives an even split of home and away games in a 36 game season with an obvious break point for a winter shut down if desired.

It means that teams who currently struggle at the bottom of the Premiership have less pressure because there are four places to be earned in the next season's top twelve. And it's the same for those clubs currently desperate for promotion from the current second tier.

It means that there will be more variety in the teams that we face in the first half of the season.

It means that teams are facing sides of equal calibre, whether in the top eight (title & Europe), middle eight (placings in next season's 12s) and lower eight (relegation to the regional leagues).

It means that all fixtures will have meaning, which will not be the case for mid-table sides from February onwards in a 16 or 18 team league.

It means good money for Hibs, as we will still have two home games against Hearts and each of the Ugly Sisters. And that makes a season ticket more valuable, because you're going to need one unlike being able to walk up for a game against Morton or Hamilton.

It means reduced travel costs and more local rivalries for the teams in the regionalised leagues. Presumably these would both have ten clubs playing four times, but it could mean a merger with the Highland and Lowland Leagues subject to sorting out the finances.

I'm not in favour of rushing through reconstruction for next season, but the above would be very do-able. If it was for next season, it would mean the extra two clubs being Brora and Kelty who have earned their promotions, not Ugly Sister reserves.

[chippy]

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The best solution for me continues to be the 12/12=8/8/8 model, with regionalised leagues below that.

It gives an even split of home and away games in a 36 game season with an obvious break point for a winter shut down if desired.

It means that teams who currently struggle at the bottom of the Premiership have less pressure because there are four places to be earned in the next season's top twelve. And it's the same for those clubs currently desperate for promotion from the current second tier.

It means that there will be more variety in the teams that we face in the first half of the season.

It means that teams are facing sides of equal calibre, whether in the top eight (title & Europe), middle eight (placings in next season's 12s) and lower eight (relegation to the regional leagues).

It means that all fixtures will have meaning, which will not be the case for mid-table sides from February onwards in a 16 or 18 team league.

It means good money for Hibs, as we will still have two home games against Hearts and each of the Ugly Sisters. And that makes a season ticket more valuable, because you're going to need one unlike being able to walk up for a game against Morton or Hamilton.

It means reduced travel costs and more local rivalries for the teams in the regionalised leagues. Presumably these would both have ten clubs playing four times, but it could mean a merger with the Highland and Lowland Leagues subject to sorting out the finances.

I'm not in favour of rushing through reconstruction for next season, but the above would be very do-able. If it was for next season, it would mean the extra two clubs being Brora and Kelty who have earned their promotions, not Ugly Sister reserves.

Better than what we have but I think it makes things too tight for all but old firm and won’t encourage clubs to play developing talent. A larger premier league allows some space for that. Also won’t get 2 home games Vs Hearts if one is 9th, same goes for old firm. Plenty times in history where Hibs or Hearts don’t make top 8

[Billy Whizz]

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Better than what we have but I think it makes things too tight for all but old firm and won’t encourage clubs to play developing talent. A larger premier league allows some space for that. Also won’t get 2 home games Vs Hearts if one is 9th, same goes for old firm. Plenty times in history where Hibs or Hearts don’t make top 8

It’s no different to now though

[NAE NOOKIE]

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There’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that a better standard of football will be played because we have a bigger league with lots more teams. Quite the contrary in fact. Many more boring teams will sit in that big lump in the middle and be happy to survive every season guaranteeing revenue from playing Celtic, Sevco, us, Hertz etc.

Google Scottish League finishes in many previous seasons in the 60’s and 70’s before the SPL and imagine some of those fixtures from February onwards. Many of my generation lived through that period and it could be excruciating - there were just as many 0-0 draws, defensive negative teams etc but the difference was they were even more meaningless. And you could play these types of teams 6 or 7 weeks on the trot.! No wonder crowds went from 5,000 to 35/40,000 - you were choking on a big game. So - clear evidence right there that people wanted to watch football in Scotland in big numbers, but didn’t attend the large amount of small meaningless games that a big league offered.

People wanting reconstruction are wanting things to improve and I get that. But I’ve yet to see something practical put forward that would be better - just words reaching for something that isn’t there. In my opinion, because of the and standard of teams we have out with the handful of good sized clubs in Scotland, the current system is the best to maximise some continued excitement right to the end of the season.

You have to remember that in the decades you mention it was 2 points for a win ... since the mid 90s a win is far more valuable than it used to be.

If you had a 14 team league with two automatic relegation spots and 12th being a play off spot being ultra defensive would be no more guaranteed to get you safety than it would do in a 12 team league ... we only have two less clubs in the premiership now than we would with 14 and I have to say that clubs like St Mirren have impressed me with their attacking intent at ER .. I doubt two more clubs in the league would change that, or at least make defensive attitudes any worse.

Yes it increases the danger of a few more meaningless games, but not by very much ... how many of a bottom 8 at the split would be absolutely safe from relegation with 14 games still to play?

[MWHIBBIES]

There is A LOT wrong with playing teams 4 times in a ****ing league season.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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There is A LOT wrong with playing teams 4 times in a ****ing league season.

There is mate no doubt about it.

But a 16 team league home and away would only equate to 30 fixtures, so some sort of split would still be required. An 18 team league is an absolute non starter, there just aren't enough decent clubs around to make it competitive and you would have an absolute pile of meaningless fixtures two thirds of the way through the season.

A 14 team league could be the best of a series of options all admittedly with down sides to them:

1 ) .... You would still have a few clubs in the championship with some hope of competing if promoted to a 14 team league.

2 ) .... It would allow some of our bigger clubs who have fell on hard times the hope that even if they were relegated a quick return is possible .... We all know that a 4th season in the championship and no 2016 cup win would have been disastrous for Hibs.

3 ) .... It would give more leeway for clubs like Dunfermline with real potential to add to the league far more than the likes of Hamilton or Ross County a route back to the top table.

4 ) .... A 14 team league would still have the potential to minimise the number of meaningless fixtures if it had two automatic relegation spots and one playoff spot far more than a 16 team league would. It would also add to the excitement if 3rd bottom in the PL played 3rd top in the championship in a one off decider at a neutral venue.

The problem with Scottish football is that we just don't have enough decent sized clubs to have a competitive 18 team league and not enough decent sized clubs to make anybody coming from the championship into a 16 team league anything other than a makeweight almost certain to go straight back down again. Because of our lack of ( for want of a better word ) 'big' clubs we should do what we can to protect the survival of the ones we have, while still keeping within the bounds of fair play and for me a 14 team league would do that.

We can all go .... Ha ha the Huns are going bust ... Ha ha the Hearts are goosed .... Ha ha I hate Dundee Utd it's great to see them struggling. Keep it up and we'll laugh our way into being the northern version of the league of Ireland.

[Spike Mandela]

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We can all go .... Ha ha the Huns are going bust ... Ha ha the Hearts are goosed .... Ha ha I hate Dundee Utd it's great to see them struggling. Keep it up and we'll laugh our way into being the northern version of the league of Ireland.

Never mind we’ll let them have their overspending fun f***ing us over time after time then we will bail them out of the mess they get themselve into like the the trusty doormats that we are.

[Glory Lurker]

Merge senior, Highland and junior games. Two top divisions of 12 each - both two down/two up automatically and a play-off up/remain. Football below that split in to regional leagues in a pyramid.

[where'stheslope]

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Thankfully due to the tv deal a straight 16/18 team league playing eachother twice will forever be a non starter. 16 is the absolute limit realistically for a top league here and any larger league than we have now would need some sort of split and playoffs to keep things interesting.

I said on another thread, it depends on when the season starts?
It could be the League cup will be cancelled and the amount of games to be played in the league could end up only playing each other twice, so allowing for league reconstruction.
Then play the Scottish Cup if enough time left in the calender?
Its not ideal, but until we get a starting date for football, there is no point in making decisions now!!!
Except just to relegate the Yams!!!!

[Roxyhibee]

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You have to remember that in the decades you mention it was 2 points for a win ... since the mid 90s a win is far more valuable than it used to be.

If you had a 14 team league with two automatic relegation spots and 12th being a play off spot being ultra defensive would be no more guaranteed to get you safety than it would do in a 12 team league ... we only have two less clubs in the premiership now than we would with 14 and I have to say that clubs like St Mirren have impressed me with their attacking intent at ER .. I doubt two more clubs in the league would change that, or at least make defensive attitudes any worse.

Yes it increases the danger of a few more meaningless games, but not by very much ... how many of a bottom 8 at the split would be absolutely safe from relegation with 14 games still to play?

Fair enough, I could just about live with giving this a go. And your point about the old 2 point for a win is valid which I missed.

But absolutely no more than 14.

[Bishop Hibee]

I don’t mind it the way it is. No need for reconstruction unless it’s a regional league for the first and second divisions.

[James Stephen]

Im not against reconstruction per se, but it wasnt on the agenda until this outbreak came along, but im still not clear what the rationale for it is?

What problems created does it help solve?

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Never mind we’ll let them have their overspending fun f***ing us over time after time then we will bail them out of the mess they get themselve into like the the trusty doormats that we are.

In the name of all that's holy. This isn't about that for me and in the current circumstances we have to put these differences to one side and look at the bigger picture, which is how do we get the game back going again with the least amount of damage possible to the least amount of clubs.

The truth of the matter is any club being relegated on the back of yesterday's vote can't be accused of getting themselves into 'a mess' vis a vis relegation, be that Partick Thistle, Hearts or Brechin City ... I exempt Stranraer who were doomed anyway by the looks of things. But the undeniable truth is that of these three clubs still had ample opportunity to play their way out of trouble and have been denied that opportunity by a situation totally outwith their control. Sorry if it pisses folk off, but I just can't find any pleasure in gloating about that .. even if one of the club's concerned is sodding Hearts.

I have no problem with a vote to end the league as it stands, that seems like the logical decision to me and I think Hibs did the right thing. Ensuring what happens afterwards limits the damage to 'every' club is what concerns me and IMO what should be concerning everybody who actually cares about Scottish football.

Note .... It was easy to lift that section of my post to make your point, but you do recognise I presume that the thinking behind it was what might work to help and sustain our whole game and had little if anything to do with some sort of Jambo love in you seem to think I'm indulging in.

[weecounty hibby]

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In the name of all that's holy. This isn't about that for me and in the current circumstances we have to put these differences to one side and look at the bigger picture, which is how do we get the game back going again with the least amount of damage possible to the least amount of clubs.

The truth of the matter is any club being relegated on the back of yesterday's vote can't be accused of getting themselves into 'a mess' vis a vis relegation, be that Partick Thistle, Hearts or Brechin City ... I exempt Stranraer who were doomed anyway by the looks of things. But the undeniable truth is that of these three clubs still had ample opportunity to play their way out of trouble and have been denied that opportunity by a situation totally outwith their control. Sorry if it pisses folk off, but I just can't find any pleasure in gloating about that .. even if one of the club's concerned is sodding Hearts.

I have no problem with a vote to end the league as it stands, that seems like the logical decision to me and I think Hibs did the right thing. Ensuring what happens afterwards limits the damage to 'every' club is what concerns me and IMO what should be concerning everybody who actually cares about Scottish football.

All of those clubs have had the same 30 games as everyone else to play themselves out of trouble. PTFC game in hand, but you get the gist. They are all at the bottom because that are the worst team in their league. Actually hearts have been worst team in prem for at least 12 months since they won the league in October. There is no resolution to this that suits all 42 senior clubs. Failure should not be overlooked and neither should success. Teams at the top should be champs, teams at the bottom should go down

[hibbyfraelibby]

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The best solution for me continues to be the 12/12=8/8/8 model, with regionalised leagues below that.

It gives an even split of home and away games in a 36 game season with an obvious break point for a winter shut down if desired.

It means that teams who currently struggle at the bottom of the Premiership have less pressure because there are four places to be earned in the next season's top twelve. And it's the same for those clubs currently desperate for promotion from the current second tier.

It means that there will be more variety in the teams that we face in the first half of the season.

It means that teams are facing sides of equal calibre, whether in the top eight (title & Europe), middle eight (placings in next season's 12s) and lower eight (relegation to the regional leagues).

It means that all fixtures will have meaning, which will not be the case for mid-table sides from February onwards in a 16 or 18 team league.

It means good money for Hibs, as we will still have two home games against Hearts and each of the Ugly Sisters. And that makes a season ticket more valuable, because you're going to need one unlike being able to walk up for a game against Morton or Hamilton.

It means reduced travel costs and more local rivalries for the teams in the regionalised leagues. Presumably these would both have ten clubs playing four times, but it could mean a merger with the Highland and Lowland Leagues subject to sorting out the finances.

I'm not in favour of rushing through reconstruction for next season, but the above would be very do-able. If it was for next season, it would mean the extra two clubs being Brora and Kelty who have earned their promotions, not Ugly Sister reserves.

Spot on...but from 21/22

[NAE NOOKIE]

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All of those clubs have had the same 30 games as everyone else to play themselves out of trouble. PTFC game in hand, but you get the gist. They are all at the bottom because that are the worst team in their league. Actually hearts have been worst team in prem for at least 12 months since they won the league in October. There is no resolution to this that suits all 42 senior clubs. Failure should not be overlooked and neither should success. Teams at the top should be champs, teams at the bottom should go down

Which is exactly what yesterday's vote does, so long as it eventually goes through. Celtic will be champions, Dundee United will be champions and Hearts and Partick Thistle will be relegated and prize money will be allocated accordingly Unless I'm missing something that is what the record books will show for season 19/20 in Scottish football.

For sure there is no resolution which will suit all 42 senior clubs .... but a revamping of the leagues for next season will sure as hell suit, and more to the point help, more clubs than just maintaining the status quo will ... in the long run even clubs who had a chance of a play off spot like Dundee or ICT and now wont get the chance will be better off if they would just remove the blinkers for a second and look a year down the road ... which they must do, because if they think this season can be played to a finish they are truly insane.

Both these clubs will be in a championship with Hearts if there is no reconstruction, what chance will they have if the best they could do this season was to see Dundee Utd out of sight by new year? Whereas, if they got their vote out of the way now and concentrated on getting a 14 team league run along the lines I proposed instead, ICT would be promoted as 2nd in the championship and Dundee would have the chance of two automatic promotion spots and a play off spot next season ... those are pretty good odds without ICT, Dundee Utd or Hearts in the same league as them.

[Spike Mandela]

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In the name of all that's holy. This isn't about that for me and in the current circumstances we have to put these differences to one side and look at the bigger picture, which is how do we get the game back going again with the least amount of damage possible to the least amount of clubs.

The truth of the matter is any club being relegated on the back of yesterday's vote can't be accused of getting themselves into 'a mess' vis a vis relegation, be that Partick Thistle, Hearts or Brechin City ... I exempt Stranraer who were doomed anyway by the looks of things. But the undeniable truth is that of these three clubs still had ample opportunity to play their way out of trouble and have been denied that opportunity by a situation totally outwith their control. Sorry if it pisses folk off, but I just can't find any pleasure in gloating about that .. even if one of the club's concerned is sodding Hearts.

I have no problem with a vote to end the league as it stands, that seems like the logical decision to me and I think Hibs did the right thing. Ensuring what happens afterwards limits the damage to 'every' club is what concerns me and IMO what should be concerning everybody who actually cares about Scottish football.

Note .... It was easy to lift that section of my post to make your point, but you do recognise I presume that the thinking behind it was what might work to help and sustain our whole game and had little if anything to do with some sort of Jambo love in you seem to think I'm indulging in.

I could have quoted your lengthy meanderings on league construction but wanted to get to the nub of why we are in this position. It isn’t the for good of Scottish football it is YET AGAIN purely and squarely to bail out the mismanaged duo from their own over indulgence.

If you want ‘fairness’ the obvious answer is a 20 team top league playing each other twice 38 games. As you know this isn’t going to fly as the Premier clubs self interest determines they want to play celtic and Rangers 4 times.

So instead they bundle together this 14 team league messY idea splitting to a 6 and an 8 after two rounds. A complete dogs dinner cooked up purely to be ‘fair’ to Hearts whilst completely ignoring the ‘unfairness’ to the 3rd and 4th place playoff teams in the championship..

You can pretend a solution is being desired for the common good but every single one of the 42 clubs is posturing and voting purely on a sel interest basis and couldn’t give a toss about the other clubs. Do you really think ICT voted no because it is unfair to relegate Hearts, of course it’s not, it’s to get in the top league themselves. Do you honestly believe thst Rangers are the honest arbitrators of Scottish football campaigning for the benefit of every one? Do you honestly think Hearts would give a f*** if they were sitting 11th?

We were the ‘bigger man’ and moved on after the last time Rangers and Hearts cheated Scottish football but here they are again sticking their fingers up to the rest of us and demanding, yes demanding we see sense and do what they want.

League reconstruction is a no no for me.

[Phil MaGlass]

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I could have quoted your lengthy meanderings on league construction but wanted to get to the nub of why we are in this position. It isn’t the for good of Scottish football it is YET AGAIN purely and squarely to bail out the mismanaged duo from their own over indulgence.

If you want ‘fairness’ the obvious answer is a 20 team top league playing each other twice 38 games. As you know this isn’t going to fly as the Premier clubs self interest determines they want to play celtic and Rangers 4 times.

So instead they bundle together this 14 team league messY idea splitting to a 6 and an 8 after two rounds. A complete dogs dinner cooked up purely to be ‘fair’ to Hearts whilst completely ignoring the ‘unfairness’ to the 3rd and 4th place playoff teams in the championship..

You can pretend a solution is being desired for the common good but every single one of the 42 clubs is posturing and voting purely on a sel interest basis and couldn’t give a toss about the other clubs. Do you really think ICT voted no because it is unfair to relegate Hearts, of course it’s not, it’s to get in the top league themselves. Do you honestly believe thst Rangers are the honest arbitrators of Scottish football campaigning for the benefit of every one? Do you honestly think Hearts would give a f*** if they were sitting 11th?

We were the ‘bigger man’ and moved on after the last time Rangers and Hearts cheated Scottish football but here they are again sticking their fingers up to the rest of us and demanding, yes demanding we see sense and do what they want.

League reconstruction is a no no for me.

Hear hear, **** them

[CMurdoch]

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I could have quoted your lengthy meanderings on league construction but wanted to get to the nub of why we are in this position. It isn’t the for good of Scottish football it is YET AGAIN purely and squarely to bail out the mismanaged duo from their own over indulgence.
If you want ‘fairness’ the obvious answer is a 20 team top league playing each other twice 38 games. As you know this isn’t going to fly as the Premier clubs self interest determines they want to play celtic and Rangers 4 times.
This is true but the real reason this won't happen is TV money. Love it or loathe them the Old Firm games are what drove the Sky TV deal

So instead they bundle together this 14 team league messY idea splitting to a 6 and an 8 after two rounds. A complete dogs dinner cooked up purely to be ‘fair’ to Hearts whilst completely ignoring the ‘unfairness’ to the 3rd and 4th place playoff teams in the championship.
Surely the split from 14 teams is 7 and 7 after 26 games. This is fairer than the present league in that you would then play each team home and away i.e. 12 further games. At the end of the season you will have played the same total of 38 games as currently but very importantly an equal number of games home and away against each team in your teams side of the post split. This currently doesn't happen i.e. it is the present post split fixtures that are a dogs dinner.

You can pretend a solution is being desired for the common good but every single one of the 42 clubs is posturing and voting purely on a sel interest basis and couldn’t give a toss about the other clubs. Do you really think ICT voted no because it is unfair to relegate Hearts, of course it’s not, it’s to get in the top league themselves. Do you honestly believe thst Rangers are the honest arbitrators of Scottish football campaigning for the benefit of every one? Do you honestly think Hearts would give a f*** if they were sitting 11th?
100% true, each club will always act in self interest. They might dress it up with words to look like something else. This situation will be no different.

We were the ‘bigger man’ and moved on after the last time Rangers and Hearts cheated Scottish football but here they are again sticking their fingers up to the rest of us and demanding, yes demanding we see sense and do what they want.
Contradicts what you correctly said in your last paragraph. Same rule applies. Each club, including our own, will always act in financial self interest. This was no different.

League reconstruction is a no no for me.

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The only thing the SPFL is looking to do is protect the new Sky deal and won't allow anything to jeopardise it or provide grounds for Sky to renegotiate the contract. This is why they tried to strong-arm yesterdays vote through. League reconstruction isn't in their thoughts.

[RoYO!]

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I could have quoted your lengthy meanderings on league construction but wanted to get to the nub of why we are in this position. It isn’t the for good of Scottish football it is YET AGAIN purely and squarely to bail out the mismanaged duo from their own over indulgence.

If you want ‘fairness’ the obvious answer is a 20 team top league playing each other twice 38 games. As you know this isn’t going to fly as the Premier clubs self interest determines they want to play celtic and Rangers 4 times.

So instead they bundle together this 14 team league messY idea splitting to a 6 and an 8 after two rounds. A complete dogs dinner cooked up purely to be ‘fair’ to Hearts whilst completely ignoring the ‘unfairness’ to the 3rd and 4th place playoff teams in the championship..

You can pretend a solution is being desired for the common good but every single one of the 42 clubs is posturing and voting purely on a sel interest basis and couldn’t give a toss about the other clubs. Do you really think ICT voted no because it is unfair to relegate Hearts, of course it’s not, it’s to get in the top league themselves. Do you honestly believe thst Rangers are the honest arbitrators of Scottish football campaigning for the benefit of every one? Do you honestly think Hearts would give a f*** if they were sitting 11th?

We were the ‘bigger man’ and moved on after the last time Rangers and Hearts cheated Scottish football but here they are again sticking their fingers up to the rest of us and demanding, yes demanding we see sense and do what they want.

League reconstruction is a no no for me.

Very well said- thank you for taking the time to say it!

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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You points answered above in bold.
The only thing the SPFL is looking to do is protect the new Sky deal and won't allow anything to jeopardise it or provide grounds for Sky to renegotiate the contract. This is why they tried to strong-arm yesterdays vote through. League reconstruction isn't in their thoughts.

Sky deal has yet to kick in tho’.

Sky will surely be looking at force majeure clauses across the board * at the mo’ so might not even be worth the paper it’s written on esp. if it’s yet to come into effect?

And they will guard against setting any precedents for a backwater like Scotland - one which has yet to commence whilst other contracts in progress...

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Sky deal has yet to kick in tho’.

Sky will surely be looking at force majeure clauses across the board * at the mo’ so might not even be worth the paper it’s written on esp. if it’s yet to come into effect?

And they will guard against setting any precedents for a backwater like Scotland - one which has yet to commence whilst other contracts in progress...

My presumption would be that the contract is signed off and legally binding and the only way Sky can change the terms of it is if the SPFL change the product they have agreed to pay for in some material way. League reconstruction could be such a loophole and if so would be a non runner for the SPFL.

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The only thing the SPFL is looking to do is protect the new Sky deal and won't allow anything to jeopardise it or provide grounds for Sky to renegotiate the contract. This is why they tried to strong-arm yesterdays vote through. League reconstruction isn't in their thoughts.

Problem with the 7 and 7 split is that every cycle 2 teams, one each side of split won’t be playing..

[Heisenberg]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...on-spfl-nelms/

This article seems like total nonesense. Nelms can insist on talks about reconstruction happening and they will happen, but there’s **** all chance it gets the backing required to be implemented. The way this is written makes it sound like reconstruction would happen no questions asked - “Dundee could put forward a motion which would see reconstruction pushed through” - it’s not getting pushed anywhere without the required backing of the clubs.

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Problem with the 7 and 7 split is that every cycle 2 teams, one each side of split won’t be playing..

Your right, it's not perfect but it's close. We play 2 games a week most weeks in the second half of the season at the moment so sitting out 3 dates out of 12 wouldn't be a massive issue and teams might be glad of them.
However, as I said it's all academic given the new Sky deal is what the SPFL will protect at all costs, including Hearts, and for that reason I can't see reconstruction.

What folk haven't spoken about is whether BT Sport will hold onto a large chunk of money if we call the season and don't play this seasons games and whether it is legal for them to do so given an Act of God. Mad times.

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I read this a lot the 4 game thing. I don't want reconstruction, not rushed now anyway.
But how can sky put that in a deal? As unlikely as this could happen (stranger things have I e Leicester winning the league) but say one of the OF finished bottom 6? What would sky do then? Not pay out cause the contract states there must be 4 OF games?

No chance either rangers and Celtic would finish bottom 6

[el_fletch]

Don’t think we need 4 divisions it seems a bit much for a country this size. 2 leagues of 14/16 would be ideal.

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...on-spfl-nelms/

This article seems like total nonesense. Nelms can insist on talks about reconstruction happening and they will happen, but there’s **** all chance it gets the backing required to be implemented. The way this is written makes it sound like reconstruction would happen no questions asked - “Dundee could put forward a motion which would see reconstruction pushed through” - it’s not getting pushed anywhere without the required backing of the clubs.

The article is bollocks and the unequal split suggestion in said article is bollocks.
It would see a reduction for the top 6 teams from 19 home games per season to 18 which is a big loss of revenue every season.
Team owners won't be interested in getting less money. Plus the other negative revenue issue of cutting the cake into 14 pieces instead of 12.
It's all about the money for each team other than Rangers who are doing bat **** stuff to show their fans they are hard and not backing down to Celtic in order that they buy season tickets. A season ticket mating dance if you will.

[1875STEVE]

Im a yes for league reconstruction.

Playing the same team 4 times is piss poor.

Id go 16 or 18, play twice. 3 up, 3 down.

Not a fan of the split either.

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Im a yes for league reconstruction.

Playing the same team 4 times is piss poor.

Id go 16 or 18, play twice. 3 up, 3 down.

Not a fan of the split either.

I’m old enough to recall the bigger leagues....so many meaningless games. It was such the right decision to reduce league size..

Likely in the minority, but I really like our league set up - almost every game makes a difference....


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