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    And what happens if the team that gets relegated has a rich backer that wants to bribe the rest of the clubs if they get to stay up?

    Have to go through this every time a club with money gets relegated?
    Hopefully not. You'd like to think most would accept that being the worst team in the league tends to get you relegated and just get on with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wat Dabney View Post
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    Does it say anywhere that a 14 team premiere league must include Hearts? They are officially a Championship side now since they were officially relegated. If the relegation gets voided would that mean that Celtic wouldn't be champions too?????
    Yes her latest paper makes it clear that injustices must be righted and Hearts back in the top flight


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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    Doctor Waffle.

    Cormack coming out against it pretty much confirms it as a dead duck. If there were any uncertain chairmen considering changing from a 'no' to a 'yes', seeing Cormack now switching to 'no' will help them stick with their 'no'. He's also helped them with a reason why they're objecting.

    Yup, Cormack has just been offered his get out clause and he’s taken it.

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    Cormack changes his mind every other week it seems. Not to be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sioux View Post
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    Cormack changes his mind every other week it seems. Not to be trusted.
    Yes but he has a sparkly white smile and "gives good interview" and hence gets a free ride from the BBC.

    Not sure why I am surprised, but the first thing I would have asked him last night was "alright Dave thats smashing - whats the difference for Aberdeen FC between 2 and 5 years temporary reconstruction?" and "why the change of mind?"

    Naturally they just moved on to some other low ball questions about how much he liked Jonny Hayes.............

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    Do you think some club chairman will think "Well Ann indirectly helped bring £2 million into the game so i feel obliged to help her and Hearts hence i will vote for reconstruction"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Count View Post
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    Do you think some club chairman will think "Well Ann indirectly helped bring £2 million into the game so i feel obliged to help her and Hearts hence i will vote for reconstruction"???
    Probably no

    But 2020 has been a ducked up year

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    Do you think some club chairman will think "Well Ann indirectly helped bring £2 million into the game so i feel obliged to help her and Hearts hence i will vote for reconstruction"???
    No chance.

    £50k and a little emotional blackmail are not going to change the minds of 6 prem teams who knocked this proposal back only a couple of weeks ago. Aberdeen have even stated they have changed their vote to no.

    ND is just dotting the i's and crossing the t's here. It will be over tomorrow and we can move on.

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    If there are any clubs that are genuinely interested in re-rorganising the leagues 'for the good of Scottish Football', then why not make a statement that they are prepared to consider the proposal at a more appropriate time but that just now we need to work solely on getting the leagues restarted (fixtures in place, plans for fans returning, etc) as a top priority.

    They can then regroup in January, or whenever Football has returned to some semblance of normality, and discuss it under less pressure... and for the long term benefit of Scottish Football as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    Yes but he has a sparkly white smile and "gives good interview" and hence gets a free ride from the BBC.

    Not sure why I am surprised, but the first thing I would have asked him last night was "alright Dave thats smashing - whats the difference for Aberdeen FC between 2 and 5 years temporary reconstruction?" and "why the change of mind?"

    Naturally they just moved on to some other low ball questions about how much he liked Jonny Hayes.............
    Yep, it's astonishing that such an obvious question wasn't put to him. Perhaps as every club stands to lose a bit of prize money if it's split 14 ways, he was ok with two years of that loss but not five?

    Either way, don't care as long as he sticks to it this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAXXA View Post
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    Isn’t the vote for the Prem pretty much irrelevant if indeed the leagues below intend to scupper it as has been reported anyway?
    I was thinking exactly that. My inkling is Doncaster just wants this to end one way or another so we can plan for Aug 1st and then getting crowds in. If the gorgie mob are so cash rich I’m sure they will skoosh the championship won’t they.

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    All this talk of reconstruction for months now, since the second the leagues were suspended and I still haven’t heard one single valid reason why a a 14 team league is an improvement on what we have now.

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    Is reconstruction moving closer?

    Kind of. The SPFL has asked clubs in the Premiership and Championship whether they would support a 14-team Premiership for next season, potentially for a fixed period of five years.

    They have to submit their feedback by 17:00 BST on Friday and have been encouraged to air any concerns. Despite the collapse of the initial reconstruction taskforce due to insufficient top-flight support, there seems to be an appetite among the 42 clubs to find a solution that suits everyone.

    A move to a 14-10-10-10 system appears the most likely, as no club would find themselves in a worse position than they were when football was suspended on 13 March. However, there are still hurdles to overcome.

    Some clubs feel that unless the financial situation becomes clearer, it is a pointless discussion. If some clubs can't afford to restart until fans can return to grounds, how can the number of teams in each division be decided? Hearts owner Ann Budge's quest for change still has life, but there is plenty of work to do.

    Clubs held divisional meetings this week to discuss the latest issues, from reconstruction to testing and live streaming.

    One club official told BBC Scotland "there is a possibility there could be a way forward", while another added: "There is definitely a new found sense of optimism, a sense of progress and a willingness to find a solution that suits everyone."

    So as things begin to fall slowly into place, BBC Scotland examines what has been discussed and the remaining stumbling blocks as the game continues to tackle a turbulent time.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52912025

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Scottish football, open to bribery?
    Or is the article a load of tripe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    Scottish football, open to bribery?
    Or is the article a load of tripe?
    Both.

    Scottish football is desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    Scottish football, open to bribery?
    Or is the article a load of tripe?
    Really hope this is all hot air but I'm becoming increasingly concerned.

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    Cormack changes his mind every other week it seems. Not to be trusted.
    Likes the sound of his own voice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    All this talk of reconstruction for months now, since the second the leagues were suspended and I still haven’t heard one single valid reason why a a 14 team league is an improvement on what we have now.
    That's because it's not. It's a made up pile of bull**** to save a corrupt, badly run club from falling further into debt

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    “...encouraged to air concerns... “ This worries me. It emphasises the point that Doncaster and pro reconstructionists will gnaw away at every issue and point until every club is browbeaten and wearied into voting for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PH91 View Post
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    No chance.

    £50k and a little emotional blackmail are not going to change the minds of 6 prem teams who knocked this proposal back only a couple of weeks ago. Aberdeen have even stated they have changed their vote to no.

    ND is just dotting the i's and crossing the t's here. It will be over tomorrow and we can move on.

    Seems like ND has all but secured a £2m windfall to be shared by all clubs, no strings attached.

    I think the clubs will take that and ignore Budge’s pleading. The lower league clubs want permanent reconstruction or nothing.

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    Seems like ND has all but secured a £2m windfall to be shared by all clubs, no strings attached.

    I think the clubs will take that and ignore Budge’s pleading. The lower league clubs want permanent reconstruction or nothing.
    The string attached is Hearts staying up through reconstruction

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    The article was about a number of things - The restart in August, Andersons cash, the virtual tv bit is linked there, and also the potential of reconstruction.

    The BBC can pontificate all it wants, but unless 11 clubs vote for it in the Prem it isnt happening full stop.

    Aberdeen are against, Hibs, St Mirren, Hamilton, Ross County, Livi etc etc should all be against.

    Who is for it in the Prem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Seems like ND has all but secured a £2m windfall to be shared by all clubs, no strings attached.

    I think the clubs will take that and ignore Budge’s pleading. The lower league clubs want permanent reconstruction or nothing.
    Hope it actually is "No Strings Attached"

    But what are the odds of 42 clubs all keep their mouths shut if there are provisions to accepting the money?

    Maybe SPFL/Doncaster has said to JA/Hearts/Budge that he will "encourage the clubs to consider the reconstruction option but can't make any promises"

    He then gets the £2m for the clubs, Heart/Budge can't complain (but oh they will) or sue because he's done all that he can to discuss the issues with the other member clubs but they took a vote and decided against it

    Wishful thinking?

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    So tomorrow there’ll be no vote, feedback will be given saying that they’re not interested and Budge will get yet another to at this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Doesn't matter what the clubs say on Friday it'll drag on until Hearts are saved. Looks like Doncaster wants to "overcome any obstacles" to make it happen
    Don’t worry too much about what Doncaster wants, remember that Doncaster (and all the SFA bigwigs) wanted to keep Rangers in the top league in 2012.

    Have some faith in the football clubs, large and small, to scupper this latest desperate bid for self preservation 😉
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    The silence from all clubs this week is what is concerning me - I cannot see anything on the internet about Cormack's interview last night!?! Why is this not being reported.....

    If Doncaster wants this, it'll happen. I am still confident Hibs will not be railroaded but can't say the same for the rest of clubs.

    The one has changed significantly since the bribe money has been introduced.

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    Hope it actually is "No Strings Attached"

    But what are the odds of 42 clubs all keep their mouths shut if there are provisions to accepting the money?

    Maybe SPFL/Doncaster has said to JA/Hearts/Budge that he will "encourage the clubs to consider the reconstruction option but can't make any promises"

    He then gets the £2m for the clubs, Heart/Budge can't complain (but oh they will) or sue because he's done all that he can to discuss the issues with the other member clubs but they took a vote and decided against it

    Wishful thinking?
    Getting totally fed up with this. No strings attached ? SPFL should take the mug's £2M and use to retain the best lawyers his money can buy and tell Budge to bring it on or **** off. Once she blinks, as she will, then distribute it among the lower league clubs to support them (excluding Hearts, of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish View Post
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    Yep, it's astonishing that such an obvious question wasn't put to him. Perhaps as every club stands to lose a bit of prize money if it's split 14 ways, he was ok with two years of that loss but not five?

    Either way, don't care as long as he sticks to it this time.

    Exactly, it really doesn’t matter.

    The main point is that Aberdeen have found a way out of backing reconstruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Good old BBC Scotland. Those club sources will most definitely be from Inverness and Hearts. No question. We’ve heard for ages about “positive discussions” and “a sense of optimism” around reconstruction but here we are 7 weeks in and no further forward.

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    Did Budge confirm Sky TV are happy with the proposals and would not try to re- negotiate the new media deal. ?

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