NO to reconstruction

[Waxy]

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The bit in bold is the issue this is not a Scottish football problem it is a Hearts problem.

Exactly.Scottish football isn’t going to have an emergency meeting because hearts have mismanaged themselves again.
Thats hearts problem as you say.

[Aldo]

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The bit in bold is the issue this is not a Scottish football problem it is a Hearts problem.

There is however no crisis at Hearts. Did Budge not say all was good with benefactors and FOH money.

The only crisis they have is with their ego’s!

Hopefully by this time tomorrow reconstruction will be punted and we can move on


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[Victor]

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There is however no crisis at Hearts. Did Budge not say all was good with benefactors and FOH money.

The only crisis they have is with their ego’s!

Hopefully by this time tomorrow reconstruction will be punted and we can move on


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Evening News headlines alluding that Hibs are the Club in trouble, whilst Hearts are stronger than ever. Unbelievable.


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[Aldo]

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Evening News headlines alluding that Hibs are the Club in trouble, whilst Hearts are stronger than ever. Unbelievable.


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You couldn’t make it up tbh.

We have however released players, those out of contract.

Wee bit mischief making from the EN here I think.

Just because we are going about our business in a professional manner and not shouting it from the rooftops every day!


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[KeithTheHibby]

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Evening News headlines alluding that Hibs are the Club in trouble, whilst Hearts are stronger than ever. Unbelievable.


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What a ****my headline. We released out of contract players and I don’t think any fans could complain about this. Those returning to their parent club is just what happens at this time of year.
Interesting to read that the FOH are sitting with approx 8000 donations each month whilst at the same time getting a wee chubby at getting 493 at the weekend. Basically getting back to numbers they were already at however as usual the EEN try’s to make a massive deal of this. Didn’t see the article that said they’d dropped approx 500 but hey ho that’s to be expected for that gutter rag.

[Ozyhibby]

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Gareth McAuley thinks it was a disgrace to relegate Hearts with 24 points to play for as 'they were going to come on strong' in the last 8 games. Why did they not start at St Mirren then if they were going to burst into form?

Who knew how influential he was?

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/sport/...mpression=true



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[Biggie]

Whatever happens, I think we need to bring in some form of financial governance.
Hearts splashing out £6k per week on Boyce, when they also have (I guess) £8k a week on Naismith, and goodness knows who else at that club on unsustainable salaries....it's not right. (I'm sure someone said their wage bill was £9M !!.....£9 'king million !)
Rangers also looking to spend £5M on Hagi…..wtf

Can these clubs REALLY afford that ?.....seems Hibs play things by the book and we suffer because of this.

Maybe if they do restructure Scottish football one of the T&C's is each club can only spend 40% of income on salaries (or something along those lines) and they need to show they have contingencies in place for catastrophes like this.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Evening News headlines alluding that Hibs are the Club in trouble, whilst Hearts are stronger than ever. Unbelievable.


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Jambo Rag

[MrSmith]

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Ah, you said what you were for and what you were against so I thought something had been published.

my personal opinion on reconstruction. Whatever Budge is offering is due to Hearts delusions of grandeur and inability to live within their means. Self serving rubbish.

[JimBHibees]

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From DR

"League bosses are set to call an emergency board meeting in the next 48 hours to discuss the next step in the crisis facing Hearts.

Record Sport understands SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster will call the meeting on Wednesday or Thursday of this week after another dramatic day of video conference calls on Monday pushed the relegated Tynecastle club closer to a nightmare scenario of being locked out of football’s big restart."

"One Hampden source told us: “The board will be briefed about the discussions between the Championship clubs on Monday morning. But they will also want to see exactly what Hearts are proposing because, for more than a week now,the expectation was that this new reconstruction paper would be produced as a matter of urgency.”

Sounds like a bit of irritation in the last sentence, quite rightly imo.

[Greenworld]

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Evening News headlines alluding that Hibs are the Club in trouble, whilst Hearts are stronger than ever. Unbelievable.


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Utter rubbish please tell me that headline can be translated into Hibs are in Trouble.
Hibs are Rock solid Financially , Hearts on the other hand are in Panic mode . Hearts have run out of cash make no mistake they living on borrowed Money and the Debt will continue to climb despite FOH pouring money into the pit. Once confirmed reconstruction is not taking place they will implode i cannot wait .

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[Mikey]

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From DR

"League bosses are set to call an emergency board meeting in the next 48 hours to discuss the next step in the crisis facing Hearts.

Record Sport understands SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster will call the meeting on Wednesday or Thursday of this week after another dramatic day of video conference calls on Monday pushed the relegated Tynecastle club closer to a nightmare scenario of being locked out of football’s big restart."

"One Hampden source told us: “The board will be briefed about the discussions between the Championship clubs on Monday morning. But they will also want to see exactly what Hearts are proposing because, for more than a week now,the expectation was that this new reconstruction paper would be produced as a matter of urgency.”

They're not the only club that will miss Scottish football's big restart, it's the same for all lower league clubs. They'll just have to get on with it along with their peers.

[JimBHibees]

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Not according to this (caution: DR again):

Premiership
Aberdeen - No
Celtic - Open to it
Dundee United - Yes but only if it's permanent
Hamilton - Yes but only if it's permanent
Hibs - No
Kilmarnock - Yes but only if it's permanent
Livingston - Yes but only if it's permanent
Motherwell - Open to it
Rangers - Open to it
Ross County - Yes but only if it's permanent
St Johnstone - Yes but not now
St Mirren - Yes but not now

Yes but not now is a no as are yes but only permanent if a temporary change.

[JimBHibees]

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They're not the only club that will miss Scottish football's big restart, it's the same for all lower league clubs. They'll just have to get on with it along with their peers.

Absolutely correct. Now a Championship team so need to help that league get started.

[Waxy]

Dont even see the difference between being in the top league and championship anyway. Even if you cant start games in the championship because crowds cant go, crowds wouldnt be allowed in the top league either. Nobody is making crowd money.
Everyone will toil.

[Billy Whizz]

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Dont even see the difference between being in the top league and championship anyway. Even if you cant start games in the championship because crowds cant go, crowds wouldnt be allowed in the top league either. Nobody is making crowd money.
Everyone will toil.

Big league gets TV money though

[CB_NO3]

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Big league gets TV money though

Its hardly a lot. £1.25M is nothing when your wage bill is about £6M.

Sure, I read Hearts outgoings are 800k a month.

[Peevemor]

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Its hardly a lot. £1.25M is nothing when your wage bill is about £6M.

Sure, I read Hearts outgoings are 800k a month.

Am I missing something? 20%+ is a lot.

[Numptie]

Can anyone clarify if Hearts would definitely get a place in a 14 team league. Have we ever had a reorganisation after the leagues have finished i.e. why would Inverness and Dundee not be the teams added to the league. Is it in any of the 'rules'.

[Waxy]

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Can anyone clarify if Hearts would definitely get a place in a 14 team league. Have we ever had a reorganisation after the leagues have finished i.e. why would Inverness and Dundee not be the teams added to the league. Is it in any of the 'rules'.

This question keeps being asked but know one has said anything.
Probably because know one knows.
Youd think ICT and Dundee would be first in line.
Just another of the many reasons reconstruction is dead.

[Onion]

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Evening News headlines alluding that Hibs are the Club in trouble, whilst Hearts are stronger than ever. Unbelievable.


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As has just been said, it's Hearts egos that are in crisis.

[The Count]

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Can anyone clarify if Hearts would definitely get a place in a 14 team league. Have we ever had a reorganisation after the leagues have finished i.e. why would Inverness and Dundee not be the teams added to the league. Is it in any of the 'rules'.

Made this point previously.Leagues have been called so at the moment all clubs are sitting in their perspective leagues with zero points.Celtic are not above Rangers,Hibs are not above Hamilton etc.All clubs are level at i type.So there is a question thete to be answered.

[The 90+2]

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Gareth McAuley thinks it was a disgrace to relegate Hearts with 24 points to play for as 'they were going to come on strong' in the last 8 games. Why did they not start at St Mirren then if they were going to burst into form?

McAuleys pals are all getting paid by Hearts handsomely for being *****.

[CB_NO3]

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Am I missing something? 20%+ is a lot.

You get 550k for winning the Championship. Deduct that from coming mid table in the Premiership which is about £1.25M, difference being 750k which is not even one months expenditure for Hearts.

An extra 750k over a year would not make that big a difference to Hearts with their insane wage bill. They would still be in a mess.

[Ozyhibby]

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You get 550k for winning the Championship. Deduct that from coming mid table in the Premiership which is about £1.25M, difference being 750k which is not even one months expenditure for Hearts.

An extra 750k over a year would not make that big a difference to Hearts with their insane wage bill. They would still be in a mess.

All those figures will be higher next season because of the new deal. Not sure how much higher though.


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McAuleys pals are all getting paid by Hearts handsomely for being *****.

Never thought of that - Boyce, Smith, Washington.................Macphee

Keeping in with his mates!

[Zazu62]

What is actually going on, Scottish football eh always a shambles

[weecounty hibby]

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What is actually going on, Scottish football eh always a shambles

The shambles is being caused by a couple of clubs. Hearts and rangers have turned the crisis into a drama* by making it all about them.

*One for the older members there

[EI255]

Just realised, Budge looks like a fat Jimmy Savile.

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[Peevemor]

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What is actually going on, Scottish football eh always a shambles

Not really.

The league's have been called and the situation has been dealt with as voted by the clubs.

Rangers tried to have an enquiry launched into how things were handled. The vast majority of clubs think things have been handled well so rejected their motion.

Now Budge is trying to save Hearts from the drop and is meant to be submitting a proposal for league reconstruction. This isn't down to the people that run football but is an independent action on Hearts' front. The reason she hasn't submitted it yet is very likely because she's been furiously phoning all the clubs trying (but failing) to get enough support to get it passed.

It's not going to happen.

"Scottish football" isn't a shambles - far from it. The crisis has been dealt with as sensibly and as quickly as it could have.

Certain clubs/club owners have failed and are trying to save face by blaming everyone else.