Something that’s not really been mentioned is about how this new reconstruction is investing in the teams struggling financially down the bottom.
Doing a quick bit of maths, if a team was to get a 16th of the share of the 250k, 6k for 200 tickets x2, and 2k for streaming, this would only work out at £23,625.20 a year. However these games wouldn’t be additional games, they would be replacing playing teams for a second time. I’m sure there is probably a couple of teams in the current 3rd division that has been known to take 200 fans to away games, so instead of playing them twice, you play them once, which will effectively cancel out the additional 6k in tickets sold.
My calculations may be wrong, but the proposals made from budge with some bribing from a benefactor to the tune of 50k each didn’t sway the bottom leagues in voting for reconstruction, I’m not sure an extra 17k for an even worse proposal from Rangers is going to change there mind.
And all this before you consider that coves promotion has been scrapped, 4 teams have effectively been relegated to the bottom league, teams in the highland / lowland league who have been trying to get into the leagues are just pushed to the side, all other PL clubs not even being asked if they want to be involved.
No danger this proposal will be voted for .
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06-06-2020 06:46 AM #4831
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06-06-2020 06:49 AM #4832
This is all just a waste of time, none of these proposals have had anywhere near enough backing to go to a vote. The SPFL need to start setting some deadlines so we can either get something sorted or move on and leave the leagues as they are for next season.
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06-06-2020 06:50 AM #4833
Additionally, another thought I have just had, but what if every team wanted a colts team in the highland / lowland league, then next season, 2 teams are promoted and want entry. And so on. In 5 years time we could have 20 colts teams playing between the 2nd, lowland and highland leagues
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06-06-2020 06:51 AM #4834
How a bout this for a league reconstruction plan.
We start with two leagues of 20. Each week the clubs drawn against each other have to come up with a reconstruction plan. The other clubs vote on it and 3 points go to the club with the most votes. Near the end of the season we split the league with 5 games to go and the top half vote on restructuring the Scottish Cup and the bottom half the Bet Fred cup.
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06-06-2020 06:57 AM #4835This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2020 07:01 AM #4836This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If they didn’t have all the extra nonsense, cared about other Scottish clubs and actually produced a decent amount of players for other clubs / Scotland national team you could maybe understand.
But they don’t and the recent statements / false accusations alone by Rangers should see this binned.
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06-06-2020 07:14 AM #4837
I hope this isnt going to be like this from now on. Clubs firing in reconstruction proposals every season.
Might be a good idea to change the rules regarding reconstruction proposals after all this.
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06-06-2020 07:17 AM #4838
This is getting like Brexit. They need to accept the vote and get the restart bloody done.
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06-06-2020 07:19 AM #4839
There’s nothing wrong with the structure of the leagues. They’ve actually been pretty entertaining ever since Rangers were defunct and The Rangers had to come up the leagues.
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06-06-2020 07:20 AM #4840
Looking at kickback - some totally against it but others cuddling up to Rangers again so they can try stay in the top league at all costs.
Again shows it’s not about the greater good for Scottish football but clubs own self interest. Just like Hearts own nonsense proposal.
Colt teams are all about the bigger clubs own self interest.
I still think nothing will change - Hearts relegated which has been confirmed - Top 12 league and no colts teams.
We will then see the season played behind closed doors till new year with fans using virtual season tickets to watch games.
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06-06-2020 07:23 AM #4841This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But the diet Huns cuddling up to the full fat Huns is no real surprise
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06-06-2020 07:56 AM #4842This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As I mentioned a few pages back, I hope a club puts forward a proposal that we just get on with it and don't consider reconstruction until 21/22 at the earliest. That would only need a 9-3 vote and should put an end to it.
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06-06-2020 08:13 AM #4843This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2020 08:20 AM #4844
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I dont have a problem with reconstruction providing it is well thought through and is beneficial to Scottish football and implemented in a sensible timeline.
My preference is for everything to be put on a table and considered on the benefits to the Scottish game similar to the McLeish report.
Get everyone to put their ideas into the mix and have someone independent propose what is the best approach for the game. This would include size of leagues , number of senior clubs which is sustainable from the commercial revenues derived from the game , summer football , colt teams et al.
Get all the stakeholders to feed into this , clubs , fans , sponsors , SPFL , SFA and TV companies and have something agreed in place in advance of the next tender for the Scottish tv rights. That way everybody knows what they are buying into , clubs can budget and shape their squads accordingly , fans know what they are paying their season tickets for , tv companies and sponsors can tender accordingly and lets say colt teams were an option , clubs can enter them into the lowest level of the pyramid and they can work their way up the structure accordingly.
Rushing decisions will only benefit the wealthy at the expense of the many.
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06-06-2020 08:22 AM #4845This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hearts for example need to plan for the Championship. Players with relegation clauses. They currently don’t have a manager as he hasn’t got a contract. If he comes back to Scotland he needs to be in quarantine for 2 weeks.
Hibs resume training on 15th June. We will also need to know fixtures so clubs can plan ahead and plans to be made about broadcasting games behind closed doors.
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06-06-2020 08:36 AM #4846
Get the reconstruction proposal in Hibs.
* 14-14-18
* Dundee & Ayr promoted from Championship
* Kelty & Brora added to bottom tier
* Hibs and St Mirren colts in L2
* Other teams can apply for colt membership but only from the following season and starting from grassroots 4 a-side with the mini pop up goals building up through 7, 9 then 11 a-side on full size pitches.
* Criteria for future promotion to top league includes no colts other than Hibs and/or St Mirren, no plastic pitches and full sized UEFA compliant pitches
Get it submitted for feedback and get it to the vote
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06-06-2020 08:37 AM #4847This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Neil Doncaster has lost control Hearts have got what they wanted an all out war with clubs all wanting a shout at what they perceive to be right a complete shambles
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06-06-2020 08:48 AM #4850
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I think there is merit in the Rangers proposal, it brings additional cash into the game but as it’s going to take time to organise so it should for 21/22 season.
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06-06-2020 09:15 AM #4854
Its the fans of all clubs that is being treated with contempt in my opinion. Utter silence from the Spfl on what the viewpoint was from the clubs on Hearts proposal!
I know they may now have to bring together all the reasons clubs are giving but some kind of indication can be given this is poor fromThe Spfl.
You cannot please everyone and looking in that seems to be the current desire, will never happen!
Let's move on if Hearts genuinely want to take court action let them , but let them be aware they will have to face whatever penalties are available for doing so. Hearts cannot continue to take this stance it is stopping the fair trading of 41 other clubs .
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06-06-2020 09:27 AM #4855
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Time to put in our own proposal - any incidents of sectarian chanting met with automatic points deduction. UEFA style financial fair play rules - you can only spend what you honestly make - no mysterious outside investment allowed. No plastic pitches.
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06-06-2020 09:36 AM #4856This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Its up to the individual clubs to decide of they want to go blabbing to the press.
The appetite for statements has gone mad.
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06-06-2020 09:39 AM #4857This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Cant always find merit in money.Sometimes it’s best to tell them to keep their cash. The motives here are poor.
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Last edited by CropleyWasGod; 06-06-2020 at 09:59 AM.
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06-06-2020 10:02 AM #4859
What happens when the tarts proposal gets binned, do we then none onto the Hun proposal and if that gets binned the next proposal from say celtic? Then one from Hibs? Etc. This is a farce caused completely by the tarts due to their over inflated sense if importance. If they had accepted relegation and registered their objection like PTFC and just got on with it we would have the fixtures out for next season
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06-06-2020 10:11 AM #4860This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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