I don't think Alex Miller was as defensive as people make out. For me there were 2 main problems with him.

Firstly, he never, ever made substitutions until it was far too late.

He was with us too long and certain managers knew exactly how to play us. This was exacerbated by Miller's unwillingness/slowness to change things that weren't working.

As for Joe T, I was a huge fan. He looked the ideal replacement for Joe Mcbride jnr (a fans' favourite) and was one of the best crossers of the ball I've seen at Hibs.

It's a disgrace that he never got a testimonial.

He was never a defender though.