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    Happy birthday joe tortolano

    Joe Joe Super Joe Super Tortolano

    Happy Birthday Joe Many Happy Returns always one of my favourites and many thanks for the wonderful memories





    https://youtu.be/RCoMY0UhFiQ

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    One of the few bright spots in an otherwise drab mid-1980s Hibs and stayed with us till the mid 90s.


    Happy Birthday Joe


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    Happy birthday Joe, thanks for the memories!

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    Loved Joe, had a hard time from certain sections of the support which he didn't deserve . Gave 100% every time he played. ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lago View Post
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    Loved Joe, had a hard time from certain sections of the support which he didn't deserve . Gave 100% every time he played. ��
    Gave 100% to Gordon Strachan 😂

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    Gave 100% to Gordon Strachan 😂
    Let’s not talk about that 😬

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    Joe T, great guy & always gave 100% for the jersey. Happy birthday Joe!

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    His goal vs Stenhousemuir was an absolute peach. That game was beamed back live to Murrayfield ice rink if I recall correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarence View Post
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    His goal vs Stenhousemuir was an absolute peach. That game was beamed back live to Murrayfield ice rink if I recall correctly.
    He scored a fabulous goal at Pittodrie in a rare midweek 2 nil win. Hibs played great that night and Joe came on as a sub and ran in on goal from around the halfway line cork screwing Willie Miller into the pitch as he twisted him round and round again before thumping a shot past a helpless Jim Leighton.
    Joe loved it and so did the sparse Hibs away support in the Beach End enjoying big celebrations.

    Happy Birthday Super Joe.

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    He scored a fabulous goal at Pittodrie in a rare midweek 2 nil win. Hibs played great that night and Joe came on as a sub and ran in on goal from around the halfway line cork screwing Willie Miller into the pitch as he twisted him round and round again before thumping a shot past a helpless Jim Leighton.
    Joe loved it and so did the sparse Hibs away support in the Beach End enjoying big celebrations.

    Happy Birthday Super Joe.
    Saw Joe, Joe, Super Joe, Super Tortolano (or so the song went) score a cracking goal at New Kilbowie Park against Clydebank at the goals in front of the club building in March 1986 - went on a solo run and curled a cracker of a shot into the far corner - a bit like McCleish against the Huns in 1982 Cup Final / Ronnie Whelan for Liverpool in a Wembley final - but Joe's was far better!

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    Found this under 'Super Joe Tortolano (Hibernian FC)' on YouTube -


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCoMY0UhFiQ


    Hated the odd spectacular goal, did Joe, eh !!

    Just noticed, on Joe's Wikipedia-page, somebody's (a Jambo most likely !) f*****d about with it - anyone who can get into Wikipedia' and amend it ?
    Last edited by Deansy; 06-04-2020 at 10:53 PM.

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    Always amazes me the love-in Joe gets on here.
    The boy was hounded by the vast majority of fans when he played for us.
    It's a pity people didn't show him the respect then as they seen to want to do now. He could have been a magnificent player for us if we had given him the backing his talent deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    ....

    Just noticed, on Joe's Wikipedia-page, somebody's (a Jambo most likely !) f*****d about with it - anyone who can get into Wikipedia' and amend it ?

    If you mean this...

    "where they regularly threw pies at the fat wee man "

    ...that's it removed :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deansy View Post
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    Found this under 'Super Joe Tortolano (Hibernian FC)' on YouTube -


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCoMY0UhFiQ


    Hated the odd spectacular goal, did Joe, eh !!

    Just noticed, on Joe's Wikipedia-page, somebody's (a Jambo most likely !) f*****d about with it - anyone who can get into Wikipedia' and amend it ?
    Brilliant Deansy

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    [QUOTE=EVENTUALLY;6136293]He scored a fabulous goal at Pittodrie in a rare midweek 2 nil win. Hibs played great that night and Joe came on as a sub and ran in on goal from around the halfway line cork screwing Willie Miller into the pitch as he twisted him round and round again before thumping a shot past a helpless Jim Leighton.
    Joe loved it and so did the sparse Hibs away support in the Beach End

    Pretty sure I sat my English O
    Grade that day.
    Rushed through and ran to catch the Hawkhill bus.
    2 points and I passed the exam as well

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    I don't think Alex Miller was as defensive as people make out. For me there were 2 main problems with him.

    Firstly, he never, ever made substitutions until it was far too late.

    He was with us too long and certain managers knew exactly how to play us. This was exacerbated by Miller's unwillingness/slowness to change things that weren't working.

    As for Joe T, I was a huge fan. He looked the ideal replacement for Joe Mcbride jnr (a fans' favourite) and was one of the best crossers of the ball I've seen at Hibs.

    It's a disgrace that he never got a testimonial.

    He was never a defender though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    I don't think Alex Miller was as defensive as people make out. For me there were 2 main problems with him.

    Firstly, he never, ever made substitutions until it was far too late.

    He was with us too long and certain managers knew exactly how to play us. This was exacerbated by Miller's unwillingness/slowness to change things that weren't working.

    As for Joe T, I was a huge fan. He looked the ideal replacement for Joe Mcbride jnr (a fans' favourite) and was one of the best crossers of the ball I've seen at Hibs.

    It's a disgrace that he never got a testimonial.

    He was never a defender though.
    He was and he wasn't.

    For years his football was every bit as bad as people describe, often worse.

    The Jackson/ Wright/ Evans/ Harper/ O'Neill/ McAllister/ Weir/ McGinlay year or two were sublime and they were quite often given the freedom to play that they required. We played good football, scored a decent number of goals and were possibly only a decent defensive partner for Geebsie, a decent CM partner for McGinlay and a bit of squad cover away from being able to properly challenge a very strong Rangers team for the title.

    Rather than the Rangers myth, I think the biggest bugbear most folk deservedly had with Miller was his derby record, which was abysmal. If he hadn't got in his own way so often when it came to facing up to inferior Hearts sides he'd be viewed much more favourable by large swathes of the Hibs support.

    I mean, for all the football was defensive and grim at times, he led us through some very tough times for us as a club without being relegated or even coming all that close to it, won us a cup and nearly won us another, at a time when there were plenty of strong players and teams in Scotland.
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    He was and he wasn't.

    For years his football was every bit as bad as people describe, often worse.

    The Jackson/ Wright/ Evans/ Harper/ O'Neill/ McAllister/ Weir/ McGinlay year or two were sublime and they were quite often given the freedom to play that they required. We played good football, scored a decent number of goals and were possibly only a decent defensive partner for Geebsie, a decent CM partner for McGinlay and a bit of squad cover away from being able to properly challenge a very strong Rangers team for the title.

    Rather than the Rangers myth, I think the biggest bugbear most folk deservedly had with Miller was his derby record, which was abysmal. If he hadn't got in his own way so often when it came to facing up to inferior Hearts sides he'd be viewed much more favourable by large swathes of the Hibs support.

    I mean, for all the football was defensive and grim at times, he led us through some very tough times for us as a club without being relegated or even coming all that close to it.
    That was the strange thing about Miller; he signed plenty good attacking players, but didn't seem to have the belief to take the shackles off them and let them play.

    The squad which included the players you mention should have done much more, in my view. O'Neill & McAllister on the wings (with Mickey Weir as back up), Jackson & Wright as strikers (with Kevin Harper breaking through); mouthwatering attack with the the ability to be legendary, but the team just seemed to fade after reaching the '93 League Cup Final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideBurns View Post
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    That was the strange thing about Miller; he signed plenty good attacking players, but didn't seem to have the belief to take the shackles off them and let them play.

    The squad which included the players you mention should have done much more, in my view. O'Neill & McAllister on the wings (with Mickey Weir as back up), Jackson & Wright as strikers (with Kevin Harper breaking through); mouthwatering attack with the the ability to be legendary, but the team just seemed to fade after reaching the '93 League Cup Final.
    His derby record was awful I agree, but some of those derby defeats or draws also came from hibs not taking there chances and a tad bad luck. Finished 3rd year after cup final in 93 too. My original point was he was not the most defensive manager in my opinion. I also agree he was there to long. Calderwood hands down for me. Anyway happy birthday Jo👍

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    Another player that felt that Alex Miller nullified his natural attacking instincts was Dougie Bell in his upcoming autobiography:

    “Speaking to HIBS fans at various events at the time their overall feeling was that Alex’s tactics were a bit too negative in the big games but not the ordinary league games If we played Dunfermline for example and they were bottom half he wanted me run at them and get the crowd excited That is what I had been doing for years and since I had been at the club and I loved it Against the bigger and better teams he was now telling me that I had to sit in That might have made good tactical sense but I really disliked having to do it

    In one game he asked me to man mark a particular well known Celtic player which I did That player hardly touched the ball The problem was that I only touched the ball myself about 10 times in the game and for an attacking midfielder that likes to get forward that was excruciating
    The Manager thought I had one of my best games for him and I couldn’t understand how “

    Michael ONeill had this to say

    “Alex Miller was a really good Manager We had a bit of a love hate relationship at times but he was a very very good Manager He was always criticised for being a little bit negative but I never found him that way at all He was structured but not negative “
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    Another player that felt that Alex Miller nullified his natural attacking instincts was Dougie Bell in his upcoming autobiography:

    “Speaking to HIBS fans at various events at the time their overall feeling was that Alex’s tactics were a bit too negative in the big games but not the ordinary league games If we played Dunfermline for example and they were bottom half he wanted me run at them and get the crowd excited That is what I had been doing for years and since I had been at the club and I loved it Against the bigger and better teams he was now telling me that I had to sit in That might have made good tactical sense but I really disliked having to do it

    In one game he asked me to man mark a particular well known Celtic player which I did That player hardly touched the ball The problem was that I only touched the ball myself about 10 times in the game and for an attacking midfielder that likes to get forward that was excruciating
    The Manager thought I had one of my best games for him and I couldn’t understand how “

    Michael ONeill had this to say

    “Alex Miller was a really good Manager We had a bit of a love hate relationship at times but he was a very very good Manager He was always criticised for being a little bit negative but I never found him that way at all He was structured but not negative “
    Really enjoyed watching Dougie Bell in his brief spell at Hibs, majestic player. To be fair to Miller, he was part of a trio of signings - along with Tommy McIntyre & Graham Mitchell - who were excellent for the club (more so Tam & Mitch, obviously).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideBurns View Post
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    Really enjoyed watching Dougie Bell in his brief spell at Hibs, majestic player. To be fair to Miller, he was part of a trio of signings - along with Tommy McIntyre & Graham Mitchell - who were excellent for the club (more so Tam & Mitch, obviously).
    He certainly had an eye for a player and brought a lot of good players to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideBurns View Post
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    Really enjoyed watching Dougie Bell in his brief spell at Hibs, majestic player. To be fair to Miller, he was part of a trio of signings - along with Tommy McIntyre & Graham Mitchell - who were excellent for the club (more so Tam & Mitch, obviously).
    Very good player but only played 35 games for the club

    Remember his debut at a frost bound Brockville?

    He would take the ball for a walk always looked as though the ball was tied to his boot

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Very good player but only played 35 games for the club

    Remember his debut at a frost bound Brockville?

    He would take the ball for a walk always looked as though the ball was tied to his boot
    The problem was that he'd invariably end up walking the ball back and forward along the halfway line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    The problem was that he'd invariably end up walking the ball back and forward along the halfway line.

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    The problem was that he'd invariably end up walking the ball back and forward along the halfway line.
    That's true. Sometimes wondered if he was interested in what way we were shooting, just liked running around with the ball at his feet 😁

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    Very good player but only played 35 games for the club

    Remember his debut at a frost bound Brockville?

    He would take the ball for a walk always looked as though the ball was tied to his boot
    Aye, I was there, was around Christmas eh. He scored a beauty I think; 3-1 to Hibs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideBurns View Post
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    Aye, I was there, was around Christmas eh. He scored a beauty I think; 3-1 to Hibs?
    I think it was early January. The ne'er day derby had been cancelled so this was first game back. Huge Hibs crowd that day. At least that's my recollection

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