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    Research on Sexuality in Football

    Dear all,

    I am involved in some university research that is looking at sexuality in football and I would appreciate a few minutes of your time to share your thoughts on this subject. The survey is anonymous and can be found here:

    https://doit.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/f...d4gVVLc7wZUS57

    Thanks in advance for your time.

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    I've completed it – interested to see the results.

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    Done I think some questions should have had none of the above option.

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    Completed it. Let us know how u get on

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    I can only imagine how hard it would be to come out as openly gay in Scottish football.

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    "people in the [Reuters report] study think that the first openly gay footballer would have tremendous branding opportunities"

    I appreciate this is to offset the negative aspects associtated with commercial pressures. But to put everything down to pound shillings and pence kinda misses the point IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    I can only imagine how hard it would be to come out as openly gay in Scottish football.
    would it as hard as it was for Maurice Johnson to move to Rangers?

    I'm not really trying to equate it but trying to gauge the level of challenge. I guess with Mojo it was a subset of flumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    I can only imagine how hard it would be to come out as openly gay in Scottish football.
    Disagree.

    I don’t think people would care.

    I think generalising football supporters in that way is quite offensive, obviously there would be some that would take the piss but the idea that it would be this majority of people that would make his life unbearable is a nonsense imo.

    Not necessarily directed at you btw, it’s just a view that’s annoyed me for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    I can only imagine how hard it would be to come out as openly gay in Scottish football.
    Its an age generation thing, young ones today accept it more readily than some of the older generation.
    If teachers at school now are telling kids from a young age about it, then it will be accepted by them.
    In my time it was a taboo subject, and I don't know anyone from my time that ever openly admitted they were gay.

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    I can only imagine how hard it would be to come out as openly gay in Scottish football.
    I cant anymore. Does anyone really give a ***** about this stuff now. Yeh we would have the same arse holes shouting from the terraces but we will still have the same ones shouting racists abuse also. It has to be time for people to just be out and proud. They certainly are in the womens game.

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    I stopped at the second question about wolves, couldn't find the exact context. What was the abuse?

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    Cimpleted and quite interesting to reflect on these questions

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    I think individually people wouldn't care, but you gets those individuals into a crowd and someone will bring them down a few levels.

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    I think individually people wouldn't care, but you gets those individuals into a crowd and someone will bring them down a few levels.

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    I think that's a possibility, but I'm optimistic most wouldn't react that way, and I think you'd see a lot of respect for the player and acknowledgement of the big step they've taken.

    One thing I think might put players off is the inevitable, probably unwanted, exposure by the media, particularly the tabloids.

    It's asking a lot for someone to put themselves in the spotlight like that.

    A few seasons back 11 players in the Bundesliga were going to announce together, but one or two got cold feet at the last minute and it didn't happen.

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    "Coming Out" shouldn't need to be a recognised decision, while it is we are still living in the dark ages.

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    Some interesting points being made.

    I would say that the challenges aren't just based on the reaction of fans, there will be challenges in dressing rooms too.

    There were recent issues with the guy at Cowdenbeath who said he had experienced significant mental health issues and he reported that he was verbally abused by players he was playing against.

    Based on demographics there should be gay players in our game. I wonder why none have openly come out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    Some interesting points being made.

    I would say that the challenges aren't just based on the reaction of fans, there will be challenges in dressing rooms too.

    There were recent issues with the guy at Cowdenbeath who said he had experienced significant mental health issues and he reported that he was verbally abused by players he was playing against.

    Based on demographics there should be gay players in our game. I wonder why none have openly come out?
    I think this is a really good point. Dressing rooms are already difficult places and you can could see within the club and certainly with opposition players this would put any player in the spotlight in a very uncomfortable way.

    Despite a lot of good work from clubs in the homophobia, many people still hold pretty unsavoury views on this topic, and football dressing rooms are certainly not exempt from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    "Coming Out" shouldn't need to be a recognised decision, while it is we are still living in the dark ages.
    Completely agree Scouse, I never 'came out' as being Heterosexual and don't see why there is a need for anyone to do so, just because they are perceived to be different from the norm? Let people live life as they wish wuthout judgement as long as they are doing no harm to anyone else

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    Who are the most important people to “win over”?
    Is the presumption it’s the fans and the rest will take care of itself?
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    "Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkyBergkamp View Post
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    Who are the most important people to “win over”?
    Is the presumption it’s the fans and the rest will take care of itself?
    I think this is the presumption and whilst a gay player would undoubtedly be on the receiving end of some terrible abuse and would be targeted, sadly that's something pretty much all players have to deal with. Whether it's abuse at a derby due to a city rivalry, or because or race or other issues footballers have to be incredibly brave and resilient to handle all that is thrown at them.

    My gut feeling is that players would be more concerned with how their teammates react as dealing with all the nonsense from the fans is probably seen as part of the job. But you need your colleagues on your side defending you on the pitch and off. I suspect many football dressing rooms would struggle to accept a gay player.

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    Started, but didn’t complete the questionnaire.

    Got to say, some of the questions are poorly worded at best, possibly even leading at worst.

    The questions did not appear to be impartial nor looking for balanced research.

    Apologies for being negative, but trying to provide constructive criticism that will provide a more valid outcome.

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    Appreciate all of the feedback. Thanks to those who have completed the survey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granty6_2 View Post
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    Started, but didn’t complete the questionnaire.

    Got to say, some of the questions are poorly worded at best, possibly even leading at worst.

    The questions did not appear to be impartial nor looking for balanced research.

    Apologies for being negative, but trying to provide constructive criticism that will provide a more valid outcome.
    Personally found the questions very reasonable.

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    Done it - looking forward to the output

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