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Also the annoying taxi driver stating he'd be satisfied if they knock 4 or 5 past Celtic in a friendly, a game they proceeded to lose 5-0, helped temper any sympathy I may have found myself having for them. Typically arrogant English lower league fan with the 'farmers league' mentality.
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Thread: Sunderland til I die
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05-04-2020 01:11 PM #121PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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05-04-2020 01:25 PM #122
Its good to have something football orientated to watch at this time.
For me the second series covers the same angles as the first, mainly following the season from Boardroom and Terracing perspective.
The big let down is that there have obviously been too many restrictions imposed on access to certain areas, the dressing room being the main one, which would have elevated this series to a better watch.
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Instead, they charge their way through things, upsetting people on the way and made royal fools of themselves in the process.
Alan Sugar ain’t going to be calling them any time soon.
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05-04-2020 05:08 PM #128
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I get that Methven lacked quite a bit in people skills but that shouldn't detract from his business accumen. He was able to paint a pretty concise picture about the financial state the club was in when they took over and what had to be done to improve the situation.
He had obviously already given a presentation about what their vision was and the changes that were required. Then in a meeting with key members of the administritive team, not one of them could tell him details of key elements of that presentation, ie. How much the club was paying in interest. That would have seriously pissed me off.
In the situation the club was in it was important that they had people buying into their vision. Then in a later scene we seen the Head of Commercial girl rolling her eyes at him. They had to realise that drastic change was required and it seemed few of them were able to think outside the box. That would have been very frustrating. I honestly don't think many of that team would have outlasted me if I were in his position.
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05-04-2020 06:20 PM #130
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Hopefully there will be a third series however i dont think Sunderland will get out of league one for a while
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05-04-2020 07:23 PM #132
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05-04-2020 08:52 PM #134
Watched the first 2 episodes of this but not getting the appeal and ended up bored. Just the same as watching any other dvd from any other teams season, which would never happen
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05-04-2020 09:35 PM #135
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He was sharp with them and at times rude but I got the impression he didn’t rate them.
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05-04-2020 09:37 PM #136
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Maybe the difference was our owner didn’t flap about and panic buy a player had told him not to pay anymore than he thought he was worth.
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The scene where the Corp woman was sitting rolling her eyes and playing with her hair when Methven was trying to drum home the importance of what they were doing or it was more job losses was almost unbelievable.
I’d have been tempted to sack her there and then.
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06-04-2020 06:00 AM #138
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Methven seemed to know what he was doing, even if he went a bit over the top at times. But if these were the only ugly moments the cameras caught after filming for 52 weeks, then I'm sure the producers were a bit disappointed.
The staff they inherited, both the players and on the admin side, were certainly not Premier League standard, and I could understand their frustrations.
They claimed to have turned them around from losing £20m to breaking even - if true, then I'd say they did a pretty good job.
But I'd agree with others who have said that series 1 was better than series 2.
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06-04-2020 05:31 PM #139
Never mind Sunderland get Maradona in Mexico on. Great story about the greatest player in most of our lifetimes managing a club in the drug heartland of Mexico.
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Great series. Found myself gutted for them but at the same time delighted Ross is here. They would have went up if they didn’t sell that player in January and overspend on Grigg. The ceo was a right ****, Donald seems a really good guy though.
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Enjoyable series but it’s run its course I think.
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09-04-2020 09:40 PM #149
One thing it has made me appreciate a bit more is how well Hibs did to turn things around so quickly when we were relegated.
I mean, 3 years in the Championship was a disaster, but there were reasons for that.
To let Stubbs start with a fairly clean slate and with the freshness of Dempster coming in at that time really was a blessing, but tbh by Christmas of our first season down we were already starting to look like a different club.
Sunderland had bumbled along low down in the Premier League for years and some of the financial (and other) decisions taken around that time were absolutely eye-watering. As they were relegated, then relegated again, those mistakes cast a huge and costly shadow. Even though League One isn't the highest standard, it was always going to be a massive job to turn a club that was basically a disaster area from top to bottom into one that could not just compete on the park but also pay its way off it. Getting 30,000 fans in in the third tier helps, but the job they had to sort it all was massive.
Ultimately it's all about the football and that's all fans see. The football hasn't been great and there have been plenty of poor results against poor teams and that gets the natives restless, natives who are expecting to win at that level.
They weren't far off going back up and made a decent fist of it but were typically unlucky when it mattered most. They then didn't do what they needed to do last summer and Jack Ross found himself out of a job - when in reality he wasn't the main problem.
Donald and Methven bit off more than they could chew and they haven't had the resolve required when the going got a bit tough this season. Donald might yet come good and I think he's done a lot more good than bad (a view not generally shared by Sunderland fans) but they need to get out of tat league quickly. They've also now shed the biggest earners and should have been getting rid of the poor habits behind the scenes so they should now be getting ready to go up. Or rather, running out of valid excuses not to.
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