Hearts players pay suspended

[Ardenttwo]

Just on Sky Sports. Queen Ann threatens the players of having their salaries suspended on 31st March if they do not accept the 50% pay cut. Could be trouble ahead

[Pretty Boy]

It's a tough time for all clubs but she has handled this appalingly.

Contrast that with Hibs who have made fans aware of the difficulty of the situation whilst maintaining an air of calm and dignity.

[McD]

This could cause real splits in the fans and amongst the players, not to mention the players association might have a lot to say as well

[Sir David Gray]

To suspend the wages would she need to call in the administrators or how would that all work in practice?

[jgl07]

Hearts financial problems are nothing that a few cake bakes could not solve..,,,,

Except that...

[Pretty Boy]

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Hearts financial problems are nothing that a few cake bakes could not solve..,,,,

Except that...

The big cow must be full by now........

[Cool_Hand_Luke]

From the sun:

ANN BUDGE has warned Hearts players to take 50 per cent wage cuts by next week or she will SUSPEND their salaries.
The Tynecastle chairman sent an email to first-team stars telling them of her plan to invoke controversial clause 12 - just hours after SPFL lawyer Rod McKenzie told all clubs his judgement was they CAN use it if players refuse to drop their wages.
And now stars at other clubs are terrified their bosses will follow suit.
SunSport revealed last week how a little-known section of a standard, off-the-shelf SPFL deal makes provision for chairmen to halt agreements if the SFA suspend football.
McKenzie is clear that now that has happened, clubs have the contracts weighted in their favour and can suspend them if they need to.
And Hearts immediately jumped on his advice in a bid to force wavering players into accepting cuts.
In an email sent today, Budge said: “This suspension by the SFA automatically suspends the agreement between you and the club governing your employment as a player.
“The precise effects of the suspension of the agreement are an extremely complex matter which the club is considering carefully.
“In the meantime, the club has decided that up until 31 March 2020 it will continue to pay your remuneration under the agreement.
"However, any continued payments of remuneration will be paid under the express condition that this is without prejudice to the question of whether you are entitled to receive them under the agreement following its suspension.
“It may be that, as we have discussed previously, the continued payments mentioned above will need to be adjusted.
“We reserve the right to make those adjustments if and when it becomes clear that this is necessary for the future sustainability of the club.
“If you do not agree with the express condition mentioned above, then by Wednesday 1 April 2020 at the latest you should (1) inform the club in writing that you do not agree and (2) instruct your bank to return any payments received after 1 April 2020 from or on behalf of the club.
“If we do not hear from you by 5pm on April 1 2020, we will take it that you do agree with our express condition.”
PFA Scotland were contacted by concerned players when Hearts first asked players to take cuts and they looked at their own contracts.
They have a QC looking at clause 12 and have vowed to fight it in the courts.
And in a statement they urged clubs to avoid slashing wages before holding proper negotiation.
They said: "The union is firm in its position that clubs and players can more effectively face the challenges ahead by working together and ensuring that decisions are reached by agreement only.
"The union will assist in negotiating agreements between clubs and players.
"Clubs must not and should not be unilaterally imposing contractual changes such as wage cuts.
"Further, the pandemic cannot and should not be used as a reason for terminating contracts - time consuming and costly litigation in the civil courts and disputes before the League will not be in anyone’s interests at this difficult time.
"The union believes that the welfare of clubs, players and Scottish football is best served by all interested stakeholders coming together now to work through the formidable challenges presented by these extraordinary testing times."

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The big cow must be full by now........

And social distancing rules out the face-painting.

[ehf]

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From the sun:

ANN BUDGE has warned Hearts players to take 50 per cent wage cuts by next week or she will SUSPEND their salaries.
The Tynecastle chairman sent an email to first-team stars telling them of her plan to invoke controversial clause 12 - just hours after SPFL lawyer Rod McKenzie told all clubs his judgement was they CAN use it if players refuse to drop their wages.
And now stars at other clubs are terrified their bosses will follow suit.
SunSport revealed last week how a little-known section of a standard, off-the-shelf SPFL deal makes provision for chairmen to halt agreements if the SFA suspend football.
McKenzie is clear that now that has happened, clubs have the contracts weighted in their favour and can suspend them if they need to.
And Hearts immediately jumped on his advice in a bid to force wavering players into accepting cuts.
In an email sent today, Budge said: “This suspension by the SFA automatically suspends the agreement between you and the club governing your employment as a player.
“The precise effects of the suspension of the agreement are an extremely complex matter which the club is considering carefully.
“In the meantime, the club has decided that up until 31 March 2020 it will continue to pay your remuneration under the agreement.
"However, any continued payments of remuneration will be paid under the express condition that this is without prejudice to the question of whether you are entitled to receive them under the agreement following its suspension.
“It may be that, as we have discussed previously, the continued payments mentioned above will need to be adjusted.
“We reserve the right to make those adjustments if and when it becomes clear that this is necessary for the future sustainability of the club.
“If you do not agree with the express condition mentioned above, then by Wednesday 1 April 2020 at the latest you should (1) inform the club in writing that you do not agree and (2) instruct your bank to return any payments received after 1 April 2020 from or on behalf of the club.
“If we do not hear from you by 5pm on April 1 2020, we will take it that you do agree with our express condition.”
PFA Scotland were contacted by concerned players when Hearts first asked players to take cuts and they looked at their own contracts.
They have a QC looking at clause 12 and have vowed to fight it in the courts.
And in a statement they urged clubs to avoid slashing wages before holding proper negotiation.
They said: "The union is firm in its position that clubs and players can more effectively face the challenges ahead by working together and ensuring that decisions are reached by agreement only.
"The union will assist in negotiating agreements between clubs and players.
"Clubs must not and should not be unilaterally imposing contractual changes such as wage cuts.
"Further, the pandemic cannot and should not be used as a reason for terminating contracts - time consuming and costly litigation in the civil courts and disputes before the League will not be in anyone’s interests at this difficult time.
"The union believes that the welfare of clubs, players and Scottish football is best served by all interested stakeholders coming together now to work through the formidable challenges presented by these extraordinary testing times."

Image dullards like Jamie Walker trying to understand that.

[Skol]

So basically they paid wages on I presume 1st March in full. Its now to late to change the payroll for 1st April (handy date) but they cant afford to pay the full wage bill. For those that agreed quickly, they will have sorted payroll. Some will have agreed too late to change payroll and will need to return 50% (presume Hearts do the tax and Ni calcs for them) and thos ethat have not agreed are asked to pay 100% back and contract terminated - or 50% and accept terms


I am glad my salary was paid today as planned by my employer

[Mibbes Aye]

Can they not just borrow the money to pay full wages and then owe it to themselves?

That will cover them until the run-up to Remembrance Sunday when their cash flow picks up again.

[SquashedFrogg]

That'll be why all the flour has been bought?

Mass cake sale imminent.

[hibsfan]

It is a tough time for all clubs and our approach to season tickets this year highlights that every team is going to take a hit. Thankfully, this has come at a time when Hearts were starting to fall anyway. You could see that their plan was not sustainable and throwing money at their new main stand was always going to be the death of them.

Having spoken to a work colleague this evening over FaceTime, whose husband is a bit of a Hearts legend, they are in real trouble and he doesn’t see them coming out of it. He genuinely thinks Hearts have just won the last ever derby.

My response didn’t go down well... silver linings and all that!

Really hope (and expect) that we are in a significantly better position and that we are able to get through this. As we have proclaimed this evening. This IS our city! 🇳🇬

[SquashedFrogg]

I for one don't take satisfaction in any small business struggling right now.

[The 90+2]

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I for one don't take satisfaction in any small business struggling right now.

😁

[AltheHibby]

Just when I needed cheering up you come out with this:

"He genuinely thinks Hearts have just won the last ever derby."

[Sir David Gray]

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Just when I needed cheering up you come out with this:

"He genuinely thinks Hearts have just won the last ever derby."

Even when they're ****** they're comparing themselves to us.

[Pretty Boy]

Where's the mystery benefactors when you need them?

I feel sorry for staff who are going to have to take pay cuts but as a club they never learn. Hearts in financial turmoil is like clockwork.

[murray26]

I honestly hope they go bust.. despicable club who know no morals or values.. football/ society would be better off without them unfortunately we all know the a going to wriggle out of this like the snakes that they are.. ridiculous

[Frankhfc]

I hope the players unhappy at this do go on to challenge it. Based on the clause itself its both vague and without context. As far as I'm aware the SFA is the regulatory body and the contract terms and conditions is between the club and player. Being vague it could read simply that while Scottish Football is suspended players contracts are suspended as in the event of plying their trade elsewhere. It fails to spell out that the clause allows clubs to suspend the terms and conditions of the contract signed between club and player.

It may well be that the clause is clarified in context elsewhere within SFA rules and regulations and that players were made aware of it. If not the players should take it further.

Shabby and underhand from Hearts treating their employees in such a manner.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Where's the mystery benefactors when you need them?

I feel sorry for staff who are going to have to take pay cuts but as a club they never learn. Hearts in financial turmoil is like clockwork.

Surely the non playing staff could be furloughed?

[murray26]

It shouldn’t be allowed plain and simple.. if there isn’t a points deduction then it’s penalising all the other clubs desperately trying to do the right thing by there players and other staff.. they can’t be allowed to get away with this again..

[Onion]

As said, she has Handled this like amateur. Panicking and flapping her way from one mess to another. Yes, Hearts have problems but you need a cool, experienced head in charge. Turning a drama into a crisis.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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It shouldn’t be allowed plain and simple.. if there isn’t a points deduction then it’s penalising all the other clubs desperately trying to do the right thing by there players and other staff.. they can’t be allowed to get away with this again..

Sounds like it’s in the rules - all clubs can do it.

It’s just they’re the skintest so are going first. Their communication methods could be improved mind you.

[murray26]

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Sounds like it’s in the rules - all clubs can do it.

It’s just they’re the skintest so are going first. Their communication methods could be improved mind you.

It should be compulsory across the board or not at all..

[Hibs4185]

I’ve always maintained that the season should just end and Celtic declares champions and hearts relegated but it cleans up the mess and leaves to start afresh when the situation becomes clearer.

However I think it might be hilarious the season finishing and budge relying on the players she has treated like ***** having to bail them out.

Relegated either way I think

[RoYO!]

And yet they want to complete the season?!

Can you imagine how up for it the players will be after this?!

[Dr Jimmy]

I know absolutely nothing about how admin or how business finance works, but if they went into Admin would she stand to lose her loans?

[Vault Boy]

I'd be really angry to receive an email of that sort, so curt and uncompromising. Clinging on to a weird technicality to punish players with just because she's mismanaged their finances so badly that they can't deal with even just the couple of missed home games. Would genuinely embarrass me to support a club like that.

[Green Blood]

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I know absolutely nothing about how admin or how business finance works, but if they went into Admin would she stand to lose her loans?

She would probably be okay, its the FOH subscribers that would lose out! So a win win!