Can KP let us know if the club have any awareness of this?
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24-02-2020 08:47 AM #121
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24-02-2020 08:48 AM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It genuinely shouldn’t take fans to come up to the club with ideas to maximum these things, we have professionals in place who are failing the ticketing side of the club. The fact we physically can’t sell out the derby as it stands because it has single seats in the ‘family’ stand is mental.Last edited by hibbysam; 24-02-2020 at 08:50 AM.
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24-02-2020 08:49 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Either way, its been poorly planned and without a way to purchase single seats without a child its not going to work.
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24-02-2020 08:51 AM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Have you even stopped to consider this?
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24-02-2020 08:53 AM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by Chorley Hibee; 24-02-2020 at 08:58 AM.
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24-02-2020 08:54 AM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I suspect the club may have been informed of the plans but potentially too late and their hands may be tied in the sense that the singing section have overlooked the ticket purchase issue and didn't try to negotiate this with Hibs in advance.
I'm speculating here of course. Some clarification needed
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24-02-2020 08:55 AM #128This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-02-2020 08:56 AM #129
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Just when i thought it was almost safe to dust down the season ticket i wasted £400 blabs on at the start of the season a thread like this appears.
The genuine fear amongst a fairly sizeable element of our support that people might want to actually create a bit of atmosphere which is blatantly missing from our once hostile home is incredible.
The club should be firmly behind this idea, why they arent is beyond me. Absolutely hammers home the fact that as fans, we are massively down the pecking order of the clubs priorities.
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24-02-2020 08:58 AM #130
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You'd think the club would promote this across social media as they're quick enough to promote anything else. Sounds to me they don't want to drum up interest and would rather see it fail
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24-02-2020 09:00 AM #131This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by Hibbyradge; 24-02-2020 at 09:03 AM.
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24-02-2020 09:01 AM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As it stands, for this season it's still the family section - rightly or wrongly depending on your opinion.
As is usual (and correct) for cup matches, ST hiolders get first shout on their seats, therefore it remains a family section.
That's the way it is. It can maybe be improved upon but I don't see how it's "half-arsed".
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24-02-2020 09:02 AM #133
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24-02-2020 09:02 AM #135
Don't think anyone should be rushing to criticise the club for this before it has been confirmed that the singing section informed Hibs about this plan in advance of ticket sales.
The club should have been given adequate notice of this plan so that the ticket issue could be sorted.
That may well have happened but there's been no evidence yet to suggest the club were aware of this in advance.
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24-02-2020 09:05 AM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you don't understand the opposing argument, you'll never win yours.
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24-02-2020 09:07 AM #137This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Anyway. Just a thought for beyond Friday.
If those pushing for it came together, quantified demand and put a case forward that there would be more ST's sold in that area than there is currently, and therefor no (or far less) empty seats, then I suspect they'd listen. Perhaps any surplus ST income could initially be used to soften the blow for people having to relocate? i.e. reduced ST's in the West/FFU for the first season after moving. Offering the club something back in return might be a good starting point.
I definitely think the numbers have to be big (certainly more than is currently sold in that section) and will also be ST's only. Otherwise it'll look silly when the section is half empty for a number of games after complaining about that very issue.
Establishing ST numbers in the FFL would let you get a target to beat.
FWIW I thinking the club are always open to dialog from supporters. Ultimately though they will need to be persuaded though a substantiated approach. A few disgruntled voices on social media and some random emails isn't (IMO) the best way forward. I'm certain a compelling case would start a conversation.
Just some thoughts.
Our group will be remaining in the East as we feel it's a far better view, closer to the away support etc, but good luck to those pushing to move to the FFL.
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24-02-2020 09:10 AM #138
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The club need to grow a set of balls over this if you ask me. Give the singing section half of the FF Lower at first then hopefully the lot.
Re-Homing the people that sit on their hands in a quarter full stand every week shouldn't be a problem, even if it means the club knocking a bit of their season tickets next season.
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24-02-2020 09:11 AM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Saying ‘that’s the way it is’ isn’t going to improve anything, just because it fails now, doesn’t mean we need to keep failing it. We don’t even promote it as a family section so how are newcomers to our stadium going to be aware of this?
If you had no clue about Easter road, but fancied the game on Friday night with your wife and kids, would you know there was a family stand?
Get the end sections closed, the top tiers closed, fill the middle/bottom sections before opening these up and get the place buzzing on Friday night, instead because a handful of people are sacred over a piece of plastic that they paid for for league games only, while getting a 10% discount, we will have zero atmosphere and tiny pockets of fans dotted around the stadium.
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24-02-2020 09:12 AM #140
My kids and I have relocated to the East for this game to open up 5 seats for the singing section.
Let's see how it works.
Whilst I like my seats with the kids I'd be happy to relocate in the stadium as long as it was to somewhere with a decent view and we were kept together.
Why not even try moving the family section to the FF upper and putting in safe standing for the singing section in the FF lower?
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24-02-2020 09:14 AM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I’m not even just on about this singing section move, for cup games the club needs to be proactive and take the initiative to make it a better place to come to, and therefore sell as many tickets as possible and create a better atmosphere. The status quo doesn’t allow for that, it has been proven time and time again.
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24-02-2020 09:19 AM #142This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-02-2020 09:20 AM #143This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's a Friday night match against 2nd tier Inverness, it's live on the BBC and the weather will probably stll be honking.
You could make the FF lower a singing section with free entry - the stadium will still be half (or a third) empty.
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24-02-2020 09:22 AM #144
I think the singing section relocating to the FF lower could be a great thing and possibly help to grow that section of the fanbase, particularly in the younger generation coming through who are looking to get involved.
It needs to be planned, communicated, tested etc. though in the right way in order to get the club fully behind it. Otherwise there is the risk that support for it will subside.
Can we have confirmation from someone in the singing section as to what palnning went into this and what the communication with the club was on it?
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24-02-2020 09:23 AM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-02-2020 09:25 AM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-02-2020 09:25 AM #147This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A lot of people with kids have loads of other commitments and so don't get to a lot of games. Personally, between my own health and my kids own football commitments we only make just over half the games. I always try and pass our ST's to a friend or family member when we can't make it along but our seats will be completely empty 25% of the time.
For what it's worth, as I mentioned before I'd be happy to relocate as long as it was to seats with a decent view (not stuck in a corner at low level) and we were kept together.
A swap to the FF Upper to allow safe standing for the singing section in the FF Lower might be a decent option.
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24-02-2020 09:32 AM #148This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maybe the club were thinking along the lines of "if it's no' burst, don't fix it"?
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24-02-2020 09:42 AM #149This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We had 10k at the Dundee United game, 6.5k at Morton game, presumably less/same at the group stage games.
Last year 7k vs Elgin, 9k vs raith.
Now I get we may not improve the numbers as the games aren’t exactly mouth watering, but we can do something about those in the stadium and how to maximise the atmosphere.
We also do nothing in these games to price them correctly and while I agree both teams need to agree, our pricing is always the exact same which leads me to believe our club are partly (at least) responsible for this.
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24-02-2020 09:47 AM #150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I was just trying to make sense of the current criticism of the club and offer a suggestion.
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