I think you are right but it hasn't worked so needs reviewing. In the meantime it would make sense to return to where it worked. I don't think you will ever get the West to join in. Never been the same since you couldn't stamp on the old wooden floorboards!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As long as you aren't chucking folk out their seats.
I have heard that a standing section may be introduced, let's see what happens.
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26-02-2020 05:59 PM #511
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26-02-2020 06:18 PM #512This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
1. The accommodation of the SS in the FF Lower on Friday.
1A. The closure of the upper tiers on Friday.
2. Future cup arrangements for ST holders
3.. The future positioning of the SS.
M views are;
1 and 1A. Neither should happen. People are used to the usual arrangements, tickets have been sold and there had been zero consultation in advance.
2. I think there could be an argument to ask ST holders to be prepared, on rare occasions, to buy a different seat, if the club's attendance crystal ball is working, and crowds are definitely going to be less than about 8000. That figure could be increased if Hibs used the lower tiers of the South.
I think it has its challenges though. One problem would be if a less able ST member couldn't get a lower tier seat. They shouldn't be expected to take a seat high up the East, for example. So, are we back to the first dibs thing or do we just tell them to take their chances?
Then there's the general scramble for the best seats and the subsequent shambles when everyone is trying to do so at the same time.
3. I don't particularly mind where they're situated, tbh, but if they can persuade the club that behind the goals would be good for the club longer term, then a consultation and information process needs to take place.
If there is any organisational change, there will be knock on effects. It's nowhere near as simple as some are suggesting.
The SS should be trying to take people with them rather than just assume that they're more important than any other group of fans. That arrogant and entitled attitude does the exact opposite.Last edited by Hibbyradge; 26-02-2020 at 06:27 PM.
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26-02-2020 06:18 PM #513This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-02-2020 06:58 PM #515This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Aside from this week perhaps, my issue is that the club will not address this. Perhaps Ron Gordon will - the optics of that half empty family section behind the goal are not good. It needs addressed, and if that means from next season that people currently in there need to move, then I do not accept it cannot happen because auld Frankie and his pals have had a seat there since 1998 and could not possibly watch the game from one of 20,000 other places.
As for entitlement, you sound like one of those folk who will move folk out of your seats even if there are umpteen other empty seats around.
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26-02-2020 07:37 PM #516This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Or was it just an opportunity to insult me again, for some reason that I don't understand?
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26-02-2020 07:42 PM #517
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What happens if the club moves the family section elsewhere, haul out all the seats, installs rail seating and the singing people decide that this still isn't the ideal location for their active fandom?
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26-02-2020 08:22 PM #519
Behind the goals at Real Madrid looks impressive tonight with everyone wearing white.
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26-02-2020 08:24 PM #520
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26-02-2020 09:45 PM #522
I sit in the FF upper(not singing section) same seat forever and if I was to move I would be disappointed and miffed but I’d do it I’m now 23, if I’d been moved when I was under 16 and attending with parents I don’t think I’d have cared, from experience taking young family members to away games they always without fail want to be close to the singing section, therefor why would they “have” to move. I get an impression that this whole push back stems from the adults becoming accustomed to the people around them( I understand this as I said earlier) and potentially the cost element as well especially for families. I sat with my girlfriends family in the FF lower for the Hamilton game and there were more conversations around me about non footballing stuff during the game than actual chat about the game, I think the club could easily put in place similar pricing and a scheme to allow “football friends” a Pish term but can’t think of anything else for it to move together meaning the friendship element and pricing elements are offset? One derby win and your new seat would feel like home.
I fully support the singing section being in the FFL but this needs to be a gradual and considered approach probably already too late for next season. I think an idea could be to almost split the stand 2 blocks each and a neutral zone in the middle and gradually phase over the singing section as you’ll be able to judge how involved kids etc are in the other zones and if they do or don’t enjoy it. I think rangers do this as the union bears are over the far side and the rest of that stand potentially the upper tier maybe is the family zone. Seeing the club state about pricing structures may open up a more obvious solution to the issue as the family section may no longer be as a cheap or even option for discounts(I cannot see this but you never know).
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27-02-2020 09:28 AM #524
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27-02-2020 09:32 AM #525
You can always tell a thread has run it's course when it descends into even more petty squabbling than usual, thinly veiled insults and awful jokes.
18 pages and I don't think a single person has shown any inclination to change their mind on the matter. There's just no desire from a few people to even consider trying to see things from the other point of view. The whole 'debate' has been a pointless exercise really.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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27-02-2020 11:07 AM #526
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27-02-2020 11:23 AM #527
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I was/am a supporter of a move. But the singing section (as with the rest of the ground) is looking a bit empty for tomorrow as it stands.
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27-02-2020 11:32 AM #528
Looking like about a 9000-ish attendance tomorrow night.
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27-02-2020 11:52 AM #529
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I reckon we’ll get up to about 12k.
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27-02-2020 12:21 PM #532
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If I take your advice and just sit somewhere else, what happens when the person who's seat I've taken turns up and wants it?
If I have an allocated seat for something - football, concert or anything else - and somebody is sitting in my seat then they get shifted. I start by asking politely but if the person wants to be a dick then I can out-dick anybody and there'll only be one winner.
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Does it really matter where you sit at the game? I'd rather move seat and have a better atmosphere, backing and matchday experience than sitting in 'my seat' in silence with a crap atmosphere.
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27-02-2020 02:31 PM #540
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It’s clear a small handful will always do their upmost to get in Since 1875’s way (and more importantly, progression’s way), regardless of what the idea is, so new tactics are required before try something different.
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