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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Total arrogance. No surprise from the refereeing mafia.

    Hundreds of really sounds refs in Scotland but the handful that make the top level are like the kid who hands out the milk in school. Officious jobsworths.
    ...in school which is in a very particular catchment area.

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    Corrupt or incompetent, no idea which one?

    How anyone can come to this decision is just wrong.

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    Oh dear!

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    Do they accompany these decisions with a statement to justify their decision?

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    Just seen the footage.

    The only explanation is that they've been sent the wrong video. Some journalist or sympathetic to this committee of incompetents needs to ask them if they've actually seen the real footage and give them and OUT from this ridiculous situation.

    Even TRUMP wouldn't be brazen enough to claim that's a dive.

    The alternative is this is corruption in plain sight.

    Note : There is no middle ground.

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    The way I see it, Keatings has taken a reasonable touch which leaves a couple of options for a crack at goal.

    Keatings doesn't appear to leave a leg out or run towards the Rangers player - the Rangers player, quite clumsily in my opinion, runs through Keatings.

    I don't see how Keatings can stay on his feet after the impact from the Rangers player's hip on his own. It's a definite foul.

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    Looking after their own, horrendous decision.

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    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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    I’ve watched the clip again and tried to look for anything that might suggest he dived.

    Was he on his way down before being caught?

    Did he fall into the player to make it look like he was caught?

    Did he throw himself to the floor too easily?

    Didn’t see anything to suggest any of the above and the more you watch it the more a foul it looks, even while trying your very hardest to find just a hint of something to back up the appeal judicators decision. It’s an extraordinary episode.

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    It's bad enough given that at the time, but for someone to watch it back and think that he's dived is unbelievable.

    Gutted for Keatings.

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    Keatings loses appeal for diving

    I have watched it numerous times and each time I look at its even more of a foul! Absolutely shocking decision and could only happen in Scotland!

    Hang your head in shame CO.

    Wonder if ICT might look at taking this further with legal action??




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    Anyone can make a mistake during a game (most mistakes during rangers games tend to favour rangers though) but to have watched that video and uphold the decision is beyond belief. I think that the panel is made up of ex pros and ex refs and if that is right then the three in that panel should never be asked to adjudicate again. Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    It won't get any coverage on BBC Sportsound that's for sure. It's the sort of decision that should go viral on social media and asking officials in other leagues their opinion
    It was actually discussed in depth on tonight's Sportsound (but not a great level of debate without MS) and they were as baffled as us.

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    If the panel submit a written judgement, the club should release it so we can all see it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    It was actually discussed in depth on tonight's Sportsound (but not a great level of debate without MS) and they were as baffled as us.
    As a result of a statement from ICT - would never have been mentioned otherwise. Good on Holt and Miller for saying what we all think mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    As a result of a statement from ICT - would never have been mentioned otherwise. Good on Holt and Miller for saying what we all think mind
    And did Sportsound ask The Rangers for comment they had time to

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    No statement from The Rangers ??

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    Weird decision from the panel, bizarre. But I don't get what they have to gain from it, are they all Raith Rovers fans or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    I’ve watched the clip again and tried to look for anything that might suggest he dived.

    Was he on his way down before being caught?

    Did he fall into the player to make it look like he was caught?

    Did he throw himself to the floor too easily?

    Didn’t see anything to suggest any of the above and the more you watch it the more a foul it looks, even while trying your very hardest to find just a hint of something to back up the appeal judicators decision. It’s an extraordinary episode.
    I'm the other way - the more I see it the more I think there's a little bit of all 3 of the above.

    He does start going across and down before he's caught and he does end up throwing himself further over.

    I thought it was really harsh first viewings but I can see why it could be upheld. Harsh but I can see why to some extent.

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    HUNbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    I'm the other way - the more I see it the more I think there's a little bit of all 3 of the above.

    He does start going across and down before he's caught and he does end up throwing himself further over.

    I thought it was really harsh first viewings but I can see why it could be upheld. Harsh but I can see why to some extent.
    I can't see any of what you apparently are. He takes a touch, moves forward (not diving or going down but simply forward) and is wiped out.

    If you think he's going down then it looks like we have found one of the three on the review panel 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    He does start going across and down before he's caught .
    Hes following his touch of the ball while trying to evade the guy running at him.


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    he does end up throwing himself further over. .

    That's just a very easy thing to say. As far as it looks to me the momentum from the collision doesn't leave him room or time to throw himself "further over". Even typing that myself, it sounds like nonsense given the speed of the fall.





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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    I can't see any of what you apparently are. He takes a touch, moves forward (not diving or going down but simply forward) and is wiped out.

    If you think he's going down then it looks like we have found one of the three on the review panel 😁
    I should add I'm just trying to deliberately look at why they would find it that way.

    As an appeal panel they also have to figure out if it is clearly wrong as the ref sees it clearly enough.

    If I watch enough times looking for a reason to agree with the original decision then I can do so.

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    Just utterly wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    I should add I'm just trying to deliberately look at why they would find it that way.

    As an appeal panel they also have to figure out if it is clearly wrong as the ref sees it clearly enough.

    If I watch enough times looking for a reason to agree with the original decision then I can do so.
    The decision is nonsense and your perceived reasoning as to how they might be looking at the incident would show they know nothing about physics and gravity, never mind football.

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    Aitken is another in a long line of utterly appalling referees. Evan Anderson is another. Simply don't understand the game.

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    I should add I'm just trying to deliberately look at why they would find it that way.

    As an appeal panel they also have to figure out if it is clearly wrong as the ref sees it clearly enough.

    If I watch enough times looking for a reason to agree with the original decision then I can do so.
    If you can genuinely watch that over and over and over, slow it down, stop it, the lot, you’re at the ham if you think you can find some form of a dive. Left hip on right hip, makes the wee jolting motion, and by the time his foot lands he’s so far off balance he hits the deck, simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    If I watch enough times looking for a reason to agree with the original decision then I can do so.
    No idea how you come to that conclusion. I can only think you are being contrary for the sake of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    No idea how you come to that conclusion. I can only think you are being contrary for the sake of it.
    Second that, this is a foul all day long regardless of how you look at it or how many times you look at it!

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    Contrast that with the second Morelos dive last week and subsequent non action by the referee.

    But our referees are just incompetent not corrupt

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