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    Quote Originally Posted by foxy View Post
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    A prominent Rangers supporters' group has issued a strongly-worded statement in response to BBC Scotland's decision to reinstate Michael Stewart.

    Club 1872 has claimed comments made by the pundit about Ibrox PR chief Jim Traynor "were, in our opinion, a factor in the physical assault on him" adding: "There is a pattern of behaviour with Michael Stewart on any Rangers-related topic and his motivation is abundantly clear to anyone who pays attention.

    "Quite simply, Michael Stewart should have been sacked on the spot.

    "The decision to reinstate Mr Stewart, and the attempted justification for that reinstatement, makes it clear that under its current leadership BBC Scotland has no intention of ever properly discharging its duty to a significant section of licence fee payers in Scotland.

    The former Hearts and Hibs midfielder, who regularly appears as a pundit on BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme and on the televised Sportscene, was suspended following comments he made about Traynor on February 3, with Sportsound host Kenny McIntyre reading out an apology during the following day's programming.

    The BBC claimed it was discussing the issue with Stewart to ensure "editorial guidelines" were adhered to in future and a statement earlier this week read:
    "Following Sportsound on Monday February 3 we have clearly explained the BBC editorial guidelines around fairness and accuracy to Michael Stewart.

    "We expect our pundits to be forthright, but fair. Michael agrees with this. On that basis Michael is now available for selection for Sportscene and Sportsound.

    'Defies belief'

    Rangers issued a statement last night to the Scottish Sun newspaper, slamming the lack of "remorse or apology", adding: "It is important to remember that [Michael Stewart] was dismissive of any racist behaviour towards Alfredo Morelos during the last Old Firm match.
    "That the BBC is now happy to allow this contributor a return to their platforms even though he has shown no remorse or offered an apology to Rangers, Alfredo Morelos, or James Traynor, who has been attacked online and also physically, defies belief.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC.

    'Ongoing biased coverage'

    And now Rangers fans' group Club 1872 has waded into the showdown, hitting out at Stewart's reinstatement and attacking BBC Scotland's "ongoing biased coverage" of the club.
    The statement continues: "Rangers supporters are correct to mistrust BBC Scotland and it is clear that the organisation is deeply flawed at an institutional level. There is no accountability, no integrity and no responsibility – from senior management all the way down to Mr Stewart’s level.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataplana View Post
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    I heard a good word for this on the radio this morning - fandamentalism. They were talking about Man City fans not accepting their club had done anything wrong, but said it applies to fans of most clubs.

    Come to think of it, it doesn't go far enough for the Bears. They are in a league of their own and would probably see being described as fandamentalists as a compliment.
    It happens with all fans. It happens on here at times when things are going terribly there will be people on here saying that we are just unlucky and whatever player you say is not good enough will have his defenders. Right up until they day he’s dropped or sold and then it is universally accepted they were hopeless. Oxley and Chris Maxwell are two recent examples but there are many more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It happens with all fans. It happens on here at times when things are going terribly there will be people on here saying that we are just unlucky and whatever player you say is not good enough will have his defenders. Right up until they day he’s dropped or sold and then it is universally accepted they were hopeless. Oxley and Chris Maxwell are two recent examples but there are many more.


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    It does, but rarely do the fans come out with such claptrap, and dress it up as a semi official statement.

    These guys seem to be tasked with saying what Jabba is really thinking, but doesn't want to admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It happens with all fans. It happens on here at times when things are going terribly there will be people on here saying that we are just unlucky and whatever player you say is not good enough will have his defenders. Right up until they day he’s dropped or sold and then it is universally accepted they were hopeless. Oxley and Chris Maxwell are two recent examples but there are many more.


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    That’s not even on the same planet as those zoomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataplana View Post
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    I heard a good word for this on the radio this morning - fandamentalism. They were talking about Man City fans not accepting their club had done anything wrong, but said it applies to fans of most clubs.

    Come to think of it, it doesn't go far enough for the Bears. They are in a league of their own and would probably see being described as fandamentalists as a compliment.
    They would, they’d take it as a good thing to be so blind that every word/statement released by anyone around rangers is gospel, and anything against it to be slander.

    There is a serious disconnect with these groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Rangers - just **** off will you. Everyone hates you, so just bugger off back to the 17th century where you belong.
    Just when you think you couldn't possibly detest them more, they plunge to odious new depths. Really hope they get pumped by Braga tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy7nil View Post
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    They shouldn't be the pitch is for the players these invasions spoil the good times for thousands. Stay in the stand and take a selfie FFS.



    I listened to that and don't believe they took opposing views due to BBC editorial rules. Off the ball are petty and I'll informed that is why they get away with a lot of their nonsense. I don't hold it against Tam but don't believe his excuse either.
    Miserable sod - it was the best pitch invasion ever! I would not change a thing about that day (and I wasn't even on the pitch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxy View Post
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    A prominent Rangers supporters' group has issued a strongly-worded statement in response to BBC Scotland's decision to reinstate Michael Stewart.

    Club 1872 has claimed comments made by the pundit about Ibrox PR chief Jim Traynor "were, in our opinion, a factor in the physical assault on him" adding: "There is a pattern of behaviour with Michael Stewart on any Rangers-related topic and his motivation is abundantly clear to anyone who pays attention.

    "Quite simply, Michael Stewart should have been sacked on the spot.

    "The decision to reinstate Mr Stewart, and the attempted justification for that reinstatement, makes it clear that under its current leadership BBC Scotland has no intention of ever properly discharging its duty to a significant section of licence fee payers in Scotland.

    The former Hearts and Hibs midfielder, who regularly appears as a pundit on BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme and on the televised Sportscene, was suspended following comments he made about Traynor on February 3, with Sportsound host Kenny McIntyre reading out an apology during the following day's programming.

    The BBC claimed it was discussing the issue with Stewart to ensure "editorial guidelines" were adhered to in future and a statement earlier this week read:
    "Following Sportsound on Monday February 3 we have clearly explained the BBC editorial guidelines around fairness and accuracy to Michael Stewart.

    "We expect our pundits to be forthright, but fair. Michael agrees with this. On that basis Michael is now available for selection for Sportscene and Sportsound.

    'Defies belief'

    Rangers issued a statement last night to the Scottish Sun newspaper, slamming the lack of "remorse or apology", adding: "It is important to remember that [Michael Stewart] was dismissive of any racist behaviour towards Alfredo Morelos during the last Old Firm match.
    "That the BBC is now happy to allow this contributor a return to their platforms even though he has shown no remorse or offered an apology to Rangers, Alfredo Morelos, or James Traynor, who has been attacked online and also physically, defies belief.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC.

    'Ongoing biased coverage'

    And now Rangers fans' group Club 1872 has waded into the showdown, hitting out at Stewart's reinstatement and attacking BBC Scotland's "ongoing biased coverage" of the club.
    The statement continues: "Rangers supporters are correct to mistrust BBC Scotland and it is clear that the organisation is deeply flawed at an institutional level. There is no accountability, no integrity and no responsibility – from senior management all the way down to Mr Stewart’s level.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC."


    - Comedy gold from the pompous arse trumpets of Ibrox

    "James Traynor, who has been attacked online and also physically"

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    Please explain those defences.
    The main defence is the well know "fair comment" defence widely used to great success.

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    Beggars belief.



    Oops.... wrong statement
    Can't keep up

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    We are Rangers
    We are Rangers
    No one likes us
    And it appears that we have not anticipated the long term ramifications of this ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby View Post
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    The main defence is the well know "fair comment" defence widely used to great success.
    Simples.

    Except it's not "fair comment" to say that an individual is manipulating the press in order that his own personal company can make money from sorting out the mess he's caused his employer.

    You need proof. Or several previous examples. He might have been right, but if MS didn't have the evidence, he shouldn't have said it.
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    What happened to fat Jabba? I wasn’t aware he was attacked?

    That Club 72 mob are a bunch of sanctimonious and hypocritical tubes.

    No one likes us, we don’t....

    Laughable.

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    What happened to fat Jabba? I wasn’t aware he was attacked?

    That Club 72 mob are a bunch of sanctimonious and hypocritical tubes.

    No one likes us, we don’t....

    Laughable.
    Police are hunting a couple of imaginary bigots that threw an imaginary rock at him while he was walking his imaginary dog and it is Michael Stewart's fault....though I might have imagined it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    What happened to fat Jabba? I wasn’t aware he was attacked?

    That Club 72 mob are a bunch of sanctimonious and hypocritical tubes.

    No one likes us, we don’t....

    Laughable.
    Couple of guys threw a stone at him and called him some sectarian names.

    Not very nice, but blown out of proportion to suit their narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxy View Post
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    A prominent Rangers supporters' group has issued a strongly-worded statement in response to BBC Scotland's decision to reinstate Michael Stewart.

    Club 1872 has claimed comments made by the pundit about Ibrox PR chief Jim Traynor "were, in our opinion, a factor in the physical assault on him" adding: "There is a pattern of behaviour with Michael Stewart on any Rangers-related topic and his motivation is abundantly clear to anyone who pays attention.

    "Quite simply, Michael Stewart should have been sacked on the spot.

    "The decision to reinstate Mr Stewart, and the attempted justification for that reinstatement, makes it clear that under its current leadership BBC Scotland has no intention of ever properly discharging its duty to a significant section of licence fee payers in Scotland.

    The former Hearts and Hibs midfielder, who regularly appears as a pundit on BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme and on the televised Sportscene, was suspended following comments he made about Traynor on February 3, with Sportsound host Kenny McIntyre reading out an apology during the following day's programming.

    The BBC claimed it was discussing the issue with Stewart to ensure "editorial guidelines" were adhered to in future and a statement earlier this week read:
    "Following Sportsound on Monday February 3 we have clearly explained the BBC editorial guidelines around fairness and accuracy to Michael Stewart.

    "We expect our pundits to be forthright, but fair. Michael agrees with this. On that basis Michael is now available for selection for Sportscene and Sportsound.

    'Defies belief'

    Rangers issued a statement last night to the Scottish Sun newspaper, slamming the lack of "remorse or apology", adding: "It is important to remember that [Michael Stewart] was dismissive of any racist behaviour towards Alfredo Morelos during the last Old Firm match.
    "That the BBC is now happy to allow this contributor a return to their platforms even though he has shown no remorse or offered an apology to Rangers, Alfredo Morelos, or James Traynor, who has been attacked online and also physically, defies belief.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC.

    'Ongoing biased coverage'

    And now Rangers fans' group Club 1872 has waded into the showdown, hitting out at Stewart's reinstatement and attacking BBC Scotland's "ongoing biased coverage" of the club.
    The statement continues: "Rangers supporters are correct to mistrust BBC Scotland and it is clear that the organisation is deeply flawed at an institutional level. There is no accountability, no integrity and no responsibility – from senior management all the way down to Mr Stewart’s level.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC."

    If you ever need an example to show what pompous windbaggery looks like you won't better this. Rangers fans have always taken themselves far too seriously and are permanently angry that nobody else does (or even cares). A bit like Northern Ireland unionist politicians.

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    A prominent Rangers supporters' group has issued a strongly-worded statement in response to BBC Scotland's decision to reinstate Michael Stewart.

    Club 1872 has claimed comments made by the pundit about Ibrox PR chief Jim Traynor "were, in our opinion, a factor in the physical assault on him" adding: "There is a pattern of behaviour with Michael Stewart on any Rangers-related topic and his motivation is abundantly clear to anyone who pays attention.

    "Quite simply, Michael Stewart should have been sacked on the spot.

    "The decision to reinstate Mr Stewart, and the attempted justification for that reinstatement, makes it clear that under its current leadership BBC Scotland has no intention of ever properly discharging its duty to a significant section of licence fee payers in Scotland.

    The former Hearts and Hibs midfielder, who regularly appears as a pundit on BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme and on the televised Sportscene, was suspended following comments he made about Traynor on February 3, with Sportsound host Kenny McIntyre reading out an apology during the following day's programming.

    The BBC claimed it was discussing the issue with Stewart to ensure "editorial guidelines" were adhered to in future and a statement earlier this week read:
    "Following Sportsound on Monday February 3 we have clearly explained the BBC editorial guidelines around fairness and accuracy to Michael Stewart.

    "We expect our pundits to be forthright, but fair. Michael agrees with this. On that basis Michael is now available for selection for Sportscene and Sportsound.

    'Defies belief'

    Rangers issued a statement last night to the Scottish Sun newspaper, slamming the lack of "remorse or apology", adding: "It is important to remember that [Michael Stewart] was dismissive of any racist behaviour towards Alfredo Morelos during the last Old Firm match.
    "That the BBC is now happy to allow this contributor a return to their platforms even though he has shown no remorse or offered an apology to Rangers, Alfredo Morelos, or James Traynor, who has been attacked online and also physically, defies belief.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC.

    'Ongoing biased coverage'

    And now Rangers fans' group Club 1872 has waded into the showdown, hitting out at Stewart's reinstatement and attacking BBC Scotland's "ongoing biased coverage" of the club.
    The statement continues: "Rangers supporters are correct to mistrust BBC Scotland and it is clear that the organisation is deeply flawed at an institutional level. There is no accountability, no integrity and no responsibility – from senior management all the way down to Mr Stewart’s level.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC."

    its not a proper The Rangers statement unless it contains the phrase "defies belief"

    This is up there with their bestest ever statements. Well done Club 1872

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    Stewart not invited into Sportsound tonight for some reason. Monday was his usual berth.

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    Stewart not invited into Sportsound tonight for some reason. Monday was his usual berth.
    Most of it was about Morelos being dropped so the BBC are probably bottling it by steering clear of MS when heavily featuring Rangers. We'll maybe get MS about once a month.

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    Thought it was strange he was not on the Scottish Cup Quarter Final Sportscene round up show

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Thought it was strange he was not on the Scottish Cup Quarter Final Sportscene round up show
    Think the good old Beeb are trying to edge him out without creating too many waves. 🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Thought it was strange he was not on the Scottish Cup Quarter Final Sportscene round up show
    He was on Saturdays show.

    Can’t be a good relationship just now - I wouldn’t be surprised if Sky get him for their promised improved coverage next season.

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    Miserable sod - it was the best pitch invasion ever! I would not change a thing about that day (and I wasn't even on the pitch).
    Glad YOU enjoyed the best pitch invasion ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Thought it was strange he was not on the Scottish Cup Quarter Final Sportscene round up show



    Given that the show revolved around TRFC screwing up with Tom English/ Darryl Broadfoot highlighting the shortcomings he would have had little time to discuss the weekend football


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    A prominent Rangers supporters' group has issued a strongly-worded statement in response to BBC Scotland's decision to reinstate Michael Stewart.

    Club 1872 has claimed comments made by the pundit about Ibrox PR chief Jim Traynor "were, in our opinion, a factor in the physical assault on him" adding: "There is a pattern of behaviour with Michael Stewart on any Rangers-related topic and his motivation is abundantly clear to anyone who pays attention.

    "Quite simply, Michael Stewart should have been sacked on the spot.

    "The decision to reinstate Mr Stewart, and the attempted justification for that reinstatement, makes it clear that under its current leadership BBC Scotland has no intention of ever properly discharging its duty to a significant section of licence fee payers in Scotland.

    The former Hearts and Hibs midfielder, who regularly appears as a pundit on BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme and on the televised Sportscene, was suspended following comments he made about Traynor on February 3, with Sportsound host Kenny McIntyre reading out an apology during the following day's programming.

    The BBC claimed it was discussing the issue with Stewart to ensure "editorial guidelines" were adhered to in future and a statement earlier this week read:
    "Following Sportsound on Monday February 3 we have clearly explained the BBC editorial guidelines around fairness and accuracy to Michael Stewart.

    "We expect our pundits to be forthright, but fair. Michael agrees with this. On that basis Michael is now available for selection for Sportscene and Sportsound.

    'Defies belief'

    Rangers issued a statement last night to the Scottish Sun newspaper, slamming the lack of "remorse or apology", adding: "It is important to remember that [Michael Stewart] was dismissive of any racist behaviour towards Alfredo Morelos during the last Old Firm match.
    "That the BBC is now happy to allow this contributor a return to their platforms even though he has shown no remorse or offered an apology to Rangers, Alfredo Morelos, or James Traynor, who has been attacked online and also physically, defies belief.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC.

    'Ongoing biased coverage'

    And now Rangers fans' group Club 1872 has waded into the showdown, hitting out at Stewart's reinstatement and attacking BBC Scotland's "ongoing biased coverage" of the club.
    The statement continues: "Rangers supporters are correct to mistrust BBC Scotland and it is clear that the organisation is deeply flawed at an institutional level. There is no accountability, no integrity and no responsibility – from senior management all the way down to Mr Stewart’s level.

    "In light of this Rangers will not now resume discussions on resolving those issues with the BBC."

    Just saw this,

    What an absolute crock of sh*t

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    Simples.

    Except it's not "fair comment" to say that an individual is manipulating the press in order that his own personal company can make money from sorting out the mess he's caused his employer.

    You need proof. Or several previous examples. He might have been right, but if MS didn't have the evidence, he shouldn't have said it.
    Sorry but you do not need "proof" in this aspect of civil law. Believe me been there got the t shirt and he got the the legal bill

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