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    Police Scotland

    Everything both these sets of fans do on a weekly basis, whilst the above turn a blind eye time and again, and then they finally pick on a 12 year old boy.

    They should hang their heads in shame!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-51449162

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    Everything both these sets of fans do on a weekly basis, whilst the above turn a blind eye time and again, and then they finally pick on a 12 year old boy.

    They should hang their heads in shame!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...-west-51449162
    Can't disagree. Seems incredible given the mayhem of that game that a 12 year old be charged.

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    Can't disagree. Seems incredible given the mayhem of that game that a 12 year old be charged.
    Simples. It will go to a Children's Panel not the Sherrif Court and the full glare of publicity

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    Can't disagree. Seems incredible given the mayhem of that game that a 12 year old be charged.
    It's almost as if Sevco desperately needed *anyone* to be charged with racism to back up their Morelos PR push.

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    AC12 should be investigating those taking these decisions.

    Police Scotland has had a number of high level sackings in the last year or two. Incompetent or corrupt?

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    AC12 should be investigating those taking these decisions.

    Police Scotland has had a number of high level sackings in the last year or two. Incompetent or corrupt?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i35TeNu1gp4

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    I think kids are brought up now with a zero tolerance towards racism, both from the home and in schooling. This says more about the boy’s upbringing more than anything else.

    If there has been an incident of racist abuse it needs to be dealt within the appropriate manner, regardless of whether the accused is an adult or child. The reluctance to tackle sectarianism in that same manner remains a mystery to those of us on the outside looking in.

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    I think kids are brought up now with a zero tolerance towards racism, both from the home and in schooling. This says more about the boy’s upbringing more than anything else.

    If there has been an incident of racist abuse it needs to be dealt within the appropriate manner, regardless of whether the accused is an adult or child. The reluctance to tackle sectarianism in that same manner remains a mystery to those of us on the outside looking in.
    Not all kids get that grounding at home.
    Same as it's ever been, if your parents are morons you are likely to grow up a moron.
    Too many morons have too many kids, they become morons and have kids who naturally become morons etc etc.
    Society is culpable in allowing this to happen rather than having the balls to deal with it.

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    A few of the Rangers fans are questioning the very validity of the arrest. Since the boy can't be named for legal reasons, does he actually exist, or have Police Scotland gone with that so they can "resolve" the case...simulataneously, they're using it as a weapon to demand several quarters of the media (including Mikey Stewart) are held to account for their accusations that this was all bull**** and demand they apologise...

    I am so glad I don't live in this Old Firm bubble - the tit for tat bull**** we've had to listen to since that Old Firm game back in December is utterly draining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
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    A few of the Rangers fans are questioning the very validity of the arrest. Since the boy can't be named for legal reasons, does he actually exist, or have Police Scotland gone with that so they can "resolve" the case...simulataneously, they're using it as a weapon to demand several quarters of the media (including Mikey Stewart) are held to account for their accusations that this was all bull**** and demand they apologise...

    I am so glad I don't live in this Old Firm bubble - the tit for tat bull**** we've had to listen to since that Old Firm game back in December is utterly draining.
    Seemingly he is an anonymous racist. Agree it is an absolute pantomime and rest of Scotland is cringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    I think kids are brought up now with a zero tolerance towards racism, both from the home and in schooling. This says more about the boy’s upbringing more than anything else.

    If there has been an incident of racist abuse it needs to be dealt within the appropriate manner, regardless of whether the accused is an adult or child. The reluctance to tackle sectarianism in that same manner remains a mystery to those of us on the outside looking in.

    I agree with your point on racism, that it should not be tolerated.

    The issue in this instance is that there seems to have been a determination on the part of a Sectarian Institution (The Rangers) to have any kind of evidence to back up their Morelos claims (seemingly based on a devious mistranslation) and this is what has driven this prosecution....against, let's not forget, a child.


    WHERE is the righteous indignation by Sectarion Institution FC to have the thousands of their own Fans prosecuted for equally heinous, sectarian abuse?

    WHERE is even the condemnation of such sectarian abuse?


    They are a bunch of Sectarian Hypocrites.

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    Brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingPat4 View Post
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    Brilliant.
    Was rge kid there on his own? If not....who was the accompanying adult? Why is he/ she not on a charge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds_1 View Post
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    Was rge kid there on his own? If not....who was the accompanying adult? Why is he/ she not on a charge?
    You think that the mum or dad of the kid should be charged?

    What with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    You think that the mum or dad of the kid should be charged?

    What with?
    Easy enough...

    Lack of parental care

    Lack of proper supervision and control

    All worthy of referral to SW and the Reporter to the Panel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds_1 View Post
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    Easy enough...

    Lack of parental care

    Lack of proper supervision and control

    All worthy of referral to SW and the Reporter to the Panel

    Assuming you're just having a laugh, yeah? Like, you don't really mean these things do you?

    Is 'Lack of parental care' even a thing? Did you just make that up?

    Either way, its BS. Go call the police and let us know how you get on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudds_1 View Post
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    Easy enough...

    Lack of parental care

    Lack of proper supervision and control

    All worthy of referral to SW and the Reporter to the Panel
    Ridiculous.

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    I wonder if independence would make any difference?

    There is little political stomach to truly tackle religious bigotry as it's not a vote winner.

    Sticking plasters on gaping wounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingPat4 View Post
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    I wonder if independence would make any difference?

    There is little political stomach to truly tackle religious bigotry as it's not a vote winner.

    Sticking plasters on gaping wounds.
    Popcorn time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    Popcorn time..
    Not trying to stir things up, it's a genuine question.

    My father was a Yorkshireman and my family on both sides had zero interest in football.

    So growing up, I could not understand the hatred even kids had for each other.

    I still don't. It's crazy.

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    Be a difficult one for Plod Glasgow's crack stamp out hatred squad if the kid pleads not guilty, 50,000 odd sectarian bigots as witnesses, not one credible witness will be found.

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    As a wee aside, has anyone seen the stuff from the Barnsley v Sheffield Wednesday game at the weekend?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...football-match

    A clip went viral which appeared to show a South Yorkshire (!) policeman using excessive force to crack a 16 year old boy over the head with a baton.

    There's quite a lot out there on twitter about it but it really doesn't look good for the police officer involved. The young lad had a fair old gouge out of his head and tbh he's lucky it wasn't anything worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    As a wee aside, has anyone seen the stuff from the Barnsley v Sheffield Wednesday game at the weekend?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...football-match

    A clip went viral which appeared to show a South Yorkshire (!) policeman using excessive force to crack a 16 year old boy over the head with a baton.

    There's quite a lot out there on twitter about it but it really doesn't look good for the police officer involved. The young lad had a fair old gouge out of his head and tbh he's lucky it wasn't anything worse.
    Good old South Yorkshire police, a force with a completely untarnished reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    As a wee aside, has anyone seen the stuff from the Barnsley v Sheffield Wednesday game at the weekend?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...football-match

    A clip went viral which appeared to show a South Yorkshire (!) policeman using excessive force to crack a 16 year old boy over the head with a baton.

    There's quite a lot out there on twitter about it but it really doesn't look good for the police officer involved. The young lad had a fair old gouge out of his head and tbh he's lucky it wasn't anything worse.
    Oh jeez, that's brutal.

    The policeman was running at full pelt. His truncheon must have reached about 100mpb by the time it cracked the boy's skull open. I doubt he even saw it coming.

    Excessive force without a doubt. Whether the investigation agrees or not is another matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    As a wee aside, has anyone seen the stuff from the Barnsley v Sheffield Wednesday game at the weekend?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...football-match

    A clip went viral which appeared to show a South Yorkshire (!) policeman using excessive force to crack a 16 year old boy over the head with a baton.

    There's quite a lot out there on twitter about it but it really doesn't look good for the police officer involved. The young lad had a fair old gouge out of his head and tbh he's lucky it wasn't anything worse.
    Cops are trained in the use of their baton and striking someone on the head is a no no unless they are in fear for their life.
    Obviously a very short clip that doesn't show what led up to it but even if he didn't mean to hit the guy on the head it was reckless.
    He is in deep deep poo.

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    A lot of people on here assuming this rabidly racist 12 year with the voice loud enough for Morelos to hear above 50,000 other people actually exists. I have my doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    A lot of people on here assuming this rabidly racist 12 year with the voice loud enough for Morelos to hear above 50,000 other people actually exists. I have my doubts.
    Noddy Holder's grandson?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    A lot of people on here assuming this rabidly racist 12 year with the voice loud enough for Morelos to hear above 50,000 other people actually exists. I have my doubts.

    And arguing about it...
    Last edited by Keith_M; 11-02-2020 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Cops are trained in the use of their baton and striking someone on the head is a no no unless they are in fear for their life.
    Obviously a very short clip that doesn't show what led up to it but even if he didn't mean to hit the guy on the head it was reckless.
    He is in deep deep poo.
    It’s S Yorks police. I’m not sure the cop will have done anything wrong. That force has previous.

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    And of course...the 1995 Children Act as it applies to scotland

    *....long as this is practicable and in the interests of the child, parents have the responsibility to:

    Safeguard and promote the child’s health, development and welfare;
    Provide direction and guidance to the child

    Ok with that????

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