Booth, Handling, Harris and Forster all broke through before Eddie May arrived. Cummings also broke through before Eddie May arrived but was a product of Heart set up.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Shaw hasn’t made it. Murray and Gullan still have a chance and Mackie came from Raith Rovers. Porteous is it. The one and only first team regular in 6 years.
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13-02-2020 11:56 PM #181
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14-02-2020 07:34 AM #182This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I also think basing it on 6 years is not fair, how much impact do you think any coaching or structural changes would have had on players who were 16-18 at the time Eddie May arrived, I’d say none. Even Porteous was 15 when May arrived. I’d say the proof will be in the pudding for players who have been recruited and through the academy system since May joined so talking about players who were 11-12 in Summer 2014 and who should be breaking through in the next few years.
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14-02-2020 07:40 AM #183
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The young players are there. Just look at our results at youth level against everyone else.
The problem is our managers are under so much pressure they are scared to play them
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14-02-2020 08:18 AM #186This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Our managers will always be under pressure if we are to regularly compete at the top end of the league. We need to either find a way to actually blood youngsters while not impacting too much on the short term competitiveness otherwise we might as well just do away with our youth set up,
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14-02-2020 08:22 AM #187This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-02-2020 08:37 AM #188This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The stadium (£900k) and training centre (£7.402m) are balance sheet items and aren't included in those figures.
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14-02-2020 09:45 AM #190
How do we compare with the rest, when looking at players that have come through and are regulars in their first teams?
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14-02-2020 09:48 AM #191
Guess a lot of it, is what resources you have, celtic obviously put a lot of time and money in.
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14-02-2020 10:16 AM #193
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14-02-2020 10:27 AM #194This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
https://www.modernfitba.com/blogs/20...-young-players
I'm sure there will be flaws in the logic used to collate these numbers, but on the face of it the two graphs in the link below don't make good reading for our youth set up and pathway to the first team.
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https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1500wLast edited by The Modfather; 14-02-2020 at 11:06 AM.
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14-02-2020 11:10 AM #195This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You are judging May against the like of Shaw and Stirling, guys who were 16 at the time he arrived. How much impact would changes to the structure of the academy have on the players he inherited such as these if they weren’t likely to make it in the first place.
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14-02-2020 11:41 AM #199
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There is obviously a sizeable cost to running a youth operation, and just being able to say you are part of Project Brave is not the tangible reward that Hibs need.
This issue - lack of talent flowing into the first team - has to be one of the areas under the microscope now, or we might as well go the Falkirk route and ditch it entirely.
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14-02-2020 12:17 PM #201This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Use the money that we spend on our youth set up to poach the best youngsters from other clubs in a similar vein to how we got John McGinn.
Sucks morally but we'd probably get a better return on our money.
It's nice to say we develop our own players but in reality we don't. We develop them for some lower league teams in the future.
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14-02-2020 12:21 PM #202
I don’t want us to go that way to be honest. I think it’s good for a club to bring through local youngsters.
We just need to ask why it’s failing just now.
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14-02-2020 12:29 PM #204
It's not just down to Eddie May. The hardest part is having a manager with the talent to help the youth take the step up, imbue them with confidence and carry on their career without making 1st team football seem a scary prospect. Previous managers in the time scale have to carry some of the can too if we are falling short.
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14-02-2020 01:14 PM #205
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Gullan, it’s still early days yet. Hopefully he can make the break through.
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14-02-2020 02:41 PM #209
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Do you have to be a shareholder to attend the AGM ? Can I take a guest ?
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