All Heckys signings were on a hiding to nothing and most were written off before they'd settled in a new team, city and county. That's the way of the world now. People want instant performances and instant results and tend to have OTT reactions if that doesn't happen. We forget these guys are human beings. Unfortunately James still getting it after months out and brought back doing 90 minutes through emergency
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Thread: Stop writing players off
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29-01-2020 05:46 AM #31
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29-01-2020 06:55 AM #34
James was poor last night imo
JR has identified this and is the reason McGinn is coming in as he is a tried and tested right back and provides cover for other positions
I am not writing the guy off as perhaps like Newall he can play another position perhaps right of a midfield in a diamond
He is good technically on the ball is a good passer though let himself down last night on a few occasions and takes a good free kick though once again I felt for him last night
He needs to do things quicker and faster and just get there
Dundee United identified this last night and were targeting his side and he was getting pulled out of position time and time again
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29-01-2020 07:13 AM #36
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But as with many of PHs signings they need time. James not fully match fit so there’s room for improvement. Whether that’s with us I don’t know.
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29-01-2020 07:22 AM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-01-2020 08:09 AM #38
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its not about patience this message board and all fan forums are not about patience they are about opinion as of now. This place will be dead if we all just wait to see what happens. I think though that every single person whom was critical of Doidge is absolutely delighted for the big man personally and for what it has meant for Hibs.
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29-01-2020 08:35 AM #39
Unfortunately Doidge is just one bad performance from plenty ripping into him again. Some people are just not happy unless they are moaning. Especially on here.
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29-01-2020 08:42 AM #40
I think the first 10 games the team itself looked poor, poor manager and tactics and the majority of the new signings just didn't look good enough. We were without Boyle who adds a different dimension to our game and a manager who set us up not to lose. Doidge in particular looked a right huddy, couldn't hit a barn door but with a new manager and a change of tactics, its changed a few players. Not all will improve enough, James isn't good enough and Jackson is decent enough cover, Newell always looked a player and obviously more central is where he's more comfortable. I'm all for players showing us we were wrong, long may it continue.
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29-01-2020 08:44 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-01-2020 08:51 AM #42
Writing players off before they've kicked a ball seems to be working for us so why change it now
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29-01-2020 09:01 AM #43
This whole fitba message board game would be much more fun if we all admitted it's a bit of guesswork and none of us really know how football players are going to develop 100%. The best managers in the world get it wrong, why do we expect as punters who might watch or play a bit, know any better?
I think James, sadly, isn't a player. But I think Newell and Jackson are. But it's all supposition. And I wish them ALL well in the green and white shirt, always.
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29-01-2020 09:02 AM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Left then...
James wasn't targeted at all.
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29-01-2020 09:07 AM #45
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I think its not an unreasonable situation to expect players who would be earning decent money vs a scottish player equivalent to be of a standard that they should hit the ground running in a short space of time. You can perhaps give Newall some more leeway as he was played out of position although that is still a poor excuse. Doidge has come good in recent times but no one can deny that he had a very slow start to his career at Hibs and should have scored more than he has.
I don't understand how James can get a 7/10 from people for last night's performance. I get he hasn't had a lot of game time but his positioning and closing down were poor to say the least. Every time I have seen him he constantly backs off a player running at him. Again that may be confidence but he is a professional football player and he needs to work on building his own confidence plus he is in a team now that has picked up a few points and so some of that pressure should be lifted but I haven't seen it in his play.
Jackson is solid but is he an improvement on what we had at the club already.
I think fans expectations were right to expect more from the summer signings as all were relatively proven and had
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29-01-2020 10:19 AM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Alarming the amount of times he passes to the opposition follows the ball and wanders inside leaving his man free the opposition then pick out the left winger who is free in acres of space he is slow in getting back to try and recover his idea of a tackle is sticking a hopeful leg out to which the opposition forward is only too happy to skip over
The passage of play at the start of the second half highlights this point
The first goal was a central top drawer strike from Shankland who was not closed down but a brilliantly executed goal
Yes the initial cross came from the Dundee United right but Shankland still had a lot to do
The second was started by an inexplicable slack pass by Jackson outside our box on our right that led to a cross from the Dundee United right that took an unfortunate but lucky deflection
At no point have I said that James was responsible for any of the goals lost just the observation that his overall general standard of play, focus, urgency, concentration and application could be improved upon
I appreciate the guy has been out for sometime and it is only his second game
I have already said that he has good attributes and might still be useful if employed elsewhere in the team but I am not seeing it at full back
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29-01-2020 10:43 AM #47
James struggles to tackle and seems to back off even the most average of wide midfielders who almost always gleefully skip past him.
His Positioning is suspect he continuously gives it away and then gets caught aimlessly floundering around.
He doesn't seem to posses the necessary pace or strength for the SPL and seems to get bullied.
Give someone in the development squad a chance.
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29-01-2020 10:55 AM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-01-2020 10:59 AM #49
Thought the ball came off Jackson at their 2nd rather than him misplacing a pass really.
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29-01-2020 11:18 AM #50
Newell has been a revelation since playing the central, pass it out from the back role. He looked like a fish out of water out wide..seems much better with the game in front of him. I like him and Omeonga as a midfield pairing...I thought they both did well against Motherwell.
I will admit to getting it wrong about Doidge..not that I was overly critical..I just didn't think he looked like a natural finisher. He seems to get in positions to score and is sticking more than his fair share away so good on him.
The other signings under Hecky Im still not convinced about as starters tbh. Maybe useful squad members until we can get better in.
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29-01-2020 11:20 AM #51
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29-01-2020 11:22 AM #52
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It's a Hibs forum. Surely people are allowed opinions on players.
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