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All other clubs sell shares or at least offer discounts or benefits, Hibs just want extra monthly DD’s into their account....Plus they want more money to buy tickets online and watch stuff from Hibs TV behind a paid firewall.
It will, as ever, be a personal decision for everyone to contribute or not.
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25-01-2020 08:33 PM #31
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25-01-2020 08:33 PM #32
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He now (partly by dint of the all-too familiar parsimony in the transfer window) appears to be rowing back from that at a rate of knots - you seem to have trouble understanding that there's a few of us who might want to ask some questions around that.
Others like you might just want to believer the Board know best and they've not to be scrutinized or asked to define their end game.
No offence if i've picked you up wrong or are misinterpreting you.
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25-01-2020 08:37 PM #35
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25-01-2020 08:52 PM #37
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25-01-2020 08:55 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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25-01-2020 08:56 PM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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25-01-2020 08:56 PM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It is voluntary.
Personally I have paused my contributions whilst I await what the owner’s plans are.
I don’t have any major gripe with the club but will be interested to see how much they want for season tickets next year before I consider restarting any payments. It does seem that the owner is expecting more money from supporters and like many people there’s a limit to how much I can take from my family’s income.
An obvious point but one worth making. This is a deliberate and considered decision by the owner. He has set out to thwart HSL in terms of them gaining shares and has done so.
Now time for him to pony up with his plans.
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25-01-2020 08:57 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There is still accountability by the club to its shareholders (HSL or individuals like us) and to the fans. So if the money goes on better wages for the players, we're happy. If it goes on disco lights, we stop paying in.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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25-01-2020 09:00 PM #43
We're in a transfer window that people are screaming out for the club to spend money in, yet many are all set to stop their own contributions. How's the next transfer window going to go then?
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25-01-2020 09:01 PM #44
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We compare ourselves to Aberdeen. Can understand why some folk aren’t happy but for me it’s about stepping up. Time to pony up.
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25-01-2020 09:03 PM #45
Don’t plan to stop my contributions but I am sorry, this statement is damage limitation with a mix of emotional blackmail.
Basically Hibs are saying:-
1. We won’t issue any more shares
2. But you better not cancel your contributions to HSL
3. If you do, you will be partly responsible for the lack of player investment.
4. We will be in touch in 6 months or so (over and above season ticket renewal in Feb/March
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25-01-2020 09:05 PM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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25-01-2020 09:06 PM #48
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This needs explaining more than that brief statement?
Are we expected to now essentially buy our own squad without having knowledge of who we intend to sign,how much it costs or have dibs in who we go for.just blindly pay in more donations.
This needs thorough planning and communication.
Is this the plans going forward or is this just the end of the hsl matter?
If this is how we are moving forward I think we as a support need to be smarter, and the different branches should call a joint meeting to discuss this.
And then ask the questions if the club wont make things clear.
If its a case of the folk who can afford it just donating more,then said donations should be organised projects.
For example a certain target in the transfer market needs x amount heres what we need from donators,with a selected trusted band of people working with the club on achieving the target.
And bucket collections at games.etc.
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25-01-2020 09:07 PM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
All of the above dwarfs any HSL reduction in income.
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25-01-2020 09:07 PM #50
HSL are shareholders in the club, just like RG is.
If supporters are expecting RG as majority shareholder to pour money into the club it’s not unreasonable to expect that other shareholders to do the same.
HSL’s remit now is to fundraise in order to invest in the club with a commitment from the board that any money they invest will be put towards the playing budget.
If people don’t want to fund that without HSL receiving shares in return that’s a perfectly valid choice as it isn’t what they were set up to do. On the other hand if people don’t care about fan ownership and buying shares but want to put and affordable amount of their money into the club, as we are expecting RG to do, then that’s also a perfectly valid choice and HSL gives them a way to do this.
Some people will want to know what the majority shareholder is committing to before they decide if they want to donate to HSL. That’s fair enough but the relentless negativity about it is very tiring and doing nothing to help the club at this point.
Give them a chance, these things don’t happen overnight.
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25-01-2020 09:08 PM #51
I put away a relatively small amount every month. Don't even notice it coming out of my bank any more. Don't give a **** about shares, or certificates, or owning part of the club. I have always wanted my money to contribute to the playing budget. And before anyone says but but but. If it means my money pays towards a lightbulb then I'm ok with that because at the end of the day that would ultimately come out of the playing budget. There is no way to split the club annual running costs from the playing budget, one and the same and interlinked.
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25-01-2020 09:09 PM #52
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I think it would help if HSL donators should get some benefit eg 10% off in the shop or the cost of a season ticket. The AberDNA scheme has perks like that.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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The last set of figures ran to a period that was nearly 20 months ago, and there’s been several significant events since that shareholders still have no visibility of. Pretty poor IMO.
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25-01-2020 09:18 PM #58
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25-01-2020 09:19 PM #59This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You mean something simple and tangible like..
Join Hibernian Supporters and if you pay in a minimum of £15 per month you’ll not pay any additional ticketing costs, we’ll give you UK Hibs TV and 10% discount at the shop on non match days?
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