If the head coach doesn’t want someone then we don’t sign them. But it’s not up to the head coach? But it is if he doesn’t want them.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I’m glad this process is so transparent.
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24-01-2020 06:59 AM #31
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/there-absolutely-will-be-additions-january-hibs-sporting-director-graeme-mathie-speaks-jack-ross-transfer-window-and-head-coach-selection-process-1279347%3Famp
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24-01-2020 07:20 AM #33
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edi...t-898415%3Famp
This interview explains how Craig and Mathie carried out coach and player recruitment. Put simply, the longer a Head Coach is with us, and the better he performs, the more input he’s granted in player selection.
With one or two exceptions, Hecky wasn’t with us long enough to earn that status.
Ten managers or head coaches in twelve years is a terrible indictment.
Imagine the shambles we would get into if we gave every one of them carte blanche to ship the previous guys choices out and bring in all their own picks?Last edited by RIP; 24-01-2020 at 07:30 AM.
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24-01-2020 07:41 AM #34
I was under the impression that Hecky had insisted that certain players were signed but that the Recruitment Team had advised against it but they were signed nonetheless?
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24-01-2020 07:51 AM #35
As I’ve said numerous times before Hibs brought in 11/12 players in the summer I think? Only Hallberg and Naismith weren’t signed by PH.
Literally don’t know how many times I need to say this before people realise I’m telling them the truth!!
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That is how I remember it
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24-01-2020 07:59 AM #38
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Great, more of this. Largely nonsense based on little understanding of how it actually works.
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24-01-2020 08:22 AM #41
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24-01-2020 09:19 AM #44
At the very least Jackson is clearly a Hecky signing. I get the idea though that Lennon and Hecky never bought in to the system at Hibs properly the way that Stubbs had.
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24-01-2020 11:21 AM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But once they’ve had a bit of success e.g Lennon (promotion) and Heckingbottom (strong finish to season) they feel in a stronger position to put their own stamp on things. If Hibs relent too much, we risk signing players that only last as long as the next Head Coach. For a club like Hibs on a limited budget we end up with losses in our player budgets and a permanently unsettled squad.
As fans, we want to see a settled team too, with a hard core of players who are proud to wear the green and with whom the supporters identify. Gray, Stevenson, Hanlon and Macgregor all fit that category. Marciano, Allan, Kamberi and Boyle are fan favourites to some degree. And Horgan, Omeonga and Doidge clearly love playing for Hibs. If the recruitment department can (as they clearly aim to do) convert loan deals to permanent contracts this should give us a strong core.
Lennon took Craig and Mathie on in relation to signing policy, wanting to get rid (Kamberi), scouting and injury treatment. As a Head Coach and not a manager, they weren’t prepared to give him a free reign. And with a performance of only 2 wins from 14, I’m not sure any DOF would have?Last edited by RIP; 24-01-2020 at 11:27 AM.
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24-01-2020 12:07 PM #47
The title of your thread is wholly inaccurate and there are several more untruths in your OP. Why bother posting fake news on here? Its just nonsense.
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24-01-2020 12:09 PM #48
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24-01-2020 12:18 PM #49
I thought the OP was quoting something from the official site but it turns out it's just his opinion.
Pointless really.
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The thread title was deliberately provocative in order to encourage discussion.
Some of the replies (see Vault Boy) show a genuine understanding of club roles e.g. Director of Football, Head of recruitment and Head Coach.
Some others clearly understand the cooperation between the Recruitment department and the Head Coach with the latter’s influence over signings increasing as results improve.
Disappointingly many responses just shout ‘rubbish!’ (Trump-Style) from those stuck back in the ‘good old days’ when a manager did all his own scouting and signing and had 100% responsibility for players signed and released.
Apparently if you keep repeating these false statements often enough that makes them true
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There are a number of key indicators the team use to flag up prospective new signings and that list is being added to. The guys put in a power of work but the model isn’t rigid in so far as the head coach is stuck with their recommendations. That’s how it works at a high level and I don’t intend going into it in any more detail.
The thread title is ridiculous and plain wrong. You got your attention though.
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24-01-2020 06:40 PM #54
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I for one am going to shout nonsense because the system as supposedly implemented by Hibs is clearly not working & it still puzzles me how Mathie ended up being promoted following the summer transfer window.
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Far too much made of the ‘recruitment team’ or whatever they’re called.
For as long as I can remember, clubs have employed folk who identify players and recommend them to the manager. It’s just that now, they have fancier job titles and do a lot of it on a computer.
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