Hecky's eye for a player?

[G B Young]

While I'm not saying he deserved more time, Hecky's signings have, for the most part, started to show that they're not the duds we feared they looked at the start of the season. Not on a par with calibre of player Stubbs brought in, but it's nevertheless interesting to see how most have come to terms with the Scottish game. We clearly require new players but we may not be in need of the mass clearout I thought we needed with Jack Ross came in.

Personally I liked Hecky. His spell at the club wasn't brilliant but he undoubtedly salvaged our season last time round (including reeling in the yams from something like 12 points behind) and I don't think he inflicted any serious long-term damage - unlike several of his predecessors.

[stokesmessiah]

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While I'm not saying he deserved more time, Hecky's signings have, for the most part, started to show that they're not the duds we feared they looked at the start of the season. Not on a par with calibre of player Stubbs brought in, but it's nevertheless interesting to see how most of have come to terms with the Scottish game. We clearly require new players but we may not be in need of the mass clearout I thought we needed with Jack Ross came in.

Personally I liked Hecky. His spell at the club wasn't brilliant but he undoubtedly salvaged our season last time round (including reeling in the yams from something like 12 points behind) and I don't think he inflicted any serious long-term damage - unlike several of his predecessors.

Pint of whatever your having please.

His signings look reasonable, while some of them (Vela) were absolutely atrocious.

Wasn't brilliant?? Are you serious !?

[The 90+2]

We have lost a complete season, probably season ticket holders for next year and have a very weak squad. He left us winless in ages and a point off the bottom. His tenure was rubbish from about February onwards.

[Hibbyradge]

Apart from Doige latterly, I don't think any of his players improved the squad.

Maxwell was no better than Rocky.

Vela was absent even when he was on the pitch.

The rest, Meh.

Granted we've seen a couple of reasonable performances over the last few days, but I don't think those players are better than what we had.

[WhileTheChief..]

He was utterly useless for us and definitely did more harm than good.

He beat a few bottom 6 teams last year and Hearts at Tynie. That's it.

Remember the games post split last year? Or the league cup games this season? Or any league games this season before he left??

It was woeful stuff and we're still suffering.

[Billy Whizz]

He played Newell at outside left?
1st game Eddie May was in charge, he played him in his best position

[FilipinoHibs]

Newell turned into a good player but needed played in position and man management.

In 50 years of watching Hibs Hecky's reign left me the the most uninspired and feeling helpless.

[BILLYHIBS]

Must have been frustrating for him right enough to have a free reign to sign all of these players and watch them fail to gel and come to terms with the pace and physicality of the Scottish game or adapt to his terrible grand plan of the system he wanted to play

Eye bleeding boring sideways defensive football insisting on playing one up front

Stuck with having to accommodate Scott Allan into his system he ignored repeated calls to sign former Hibernian heroes

He seriously underestimated the standard of the Scottish Premiership and the expectations of the fans of Hibernian Football Club the way he lined us up in the Scottish Cup at Easter Road versus Celtic was nothing short of a disgrace

All of his signings looked as though they needed an injection of urgency and a rocket up their respective *****


True some are starting to shine now Newall was outstanding last night but we may never know how good Josh Vela really is because like Newall he was deployed out of position and being injured and homesick has returned down south

We never ever saw the high press and levels of fitness that we have never known before that he promised us

It is interesting that when Eddie May took over he said that he had never attended a first team game he simply went two up front and dropped the non triers at Training resulting in an impressive win away to St Johnstone

It might be said that Hecky was unlucky losing Boyle to injury as he had the pace that his teams so badly needed but it was his inflexibility stubbornness and failure to listen to people when we were crying out to go two upfront especially against inferior opposition

The amount of games we lost or drew from winning positions and the subsequent points lost is mind blowing

A nice enough guy he never once engaged with the fans embraced our culture or tried to get us onside choosing instead to blame our frustration on the the terraces for negative results

The reality was the buck stopped with him

I have no doubt he is probably a knowledgeable coach but he is never a Manager that would inspire or motivate you to go over the top in the trenches with him when the whistle blows

[ABZHFC]

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Pint of whatever your having please.

His signings look reasonable, while some of them (Vela) were absolutely atrocious.

Wasn't brilliant?? Are you serious !?

There is not a doubt in my mind that if Vela had been given as many chances as Doidge (rightly) was, he'd have come a perfectly good player too. We are *far* too impatient as a fanbase

[Smartie]

Hecky made a couple of fatal mistakes. He underestimated the importance of Bartley and Milligan but more importantly the value of a defensive minded midfielder to our side. He was also far too set in his ways tactically, sticking with a system that clearly didn't suit the players he had signed and is rarely attacking enough to break down the weaker teams in our league.

I didn't mind him, in fact I quite liked him. I don't have a problem with the players he signed, a couple of them (Newell and Doidge) I think will turn out to be very good for us, a few more (James and Jackson) may well go on to be decent, Maxwell did a decent turn for us whilst Vela didn't really get the opportunity to redeem himself after a poor start.

He wasn't going to turn it around with us and it was right that he went but the "his signings were garbage" criticism isn't actually all that fair or true. He had to go because his tactics were never going to bring success to Hibs and I didn't get the feeling he was learning from his mistakes.

[Sir David Gray]

He was one of the most boring and uninspiring managers I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.

Utter garbage apart from about the first 10 games or whatever it was.

We would have been where Hearts are now if he had been allowed to stay much longer.

[mcfly]

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While I'm not saying he deserved more time, Hecky's signings have, for the most part, started to show that they're not the duds we feared they looked at the start of the season. Not on a par with calibre of player Stubbs brought in, but it's nevertheless interesting to see how most have come to terms with the Scottish game. We clearly require new players but we may not be in need of the mass clearout I thought we needed with Jack Ross came in.

Personally I liked Hecky. His spell at the club wasn't brilliant but he undoubtedly salvaged our season last time round (including reeling in the yams from something like 12 points behind) and I don't think he inflicted any serious long-term damage - unlike several of his predecessors.

Heckys gone and part of that reason is he clearly didn’t have an eye fir a player as the new manager is getting rid of them.

I didn’t like hecky cause he left us in a mess

Let’s move on and forget hecky

[tonyrougier123]

Doidge signed during his tenure as gaffer but hibs scouted and watched big doidge long before heckingbottom became head coach.

There's not alot of credit that man can get just now tbh.

[Keith_M]

My view is that we're still a pretty average side and no more. Some of Hecky's signings were poor, some average and a couple reasonably good but nothing special.

Hecky was, IMO, a poor tactician and made his average squad look really poor. He was no Terry Butcher though.

[Since452]

Football visionary. Doidge and Newell look the part!

[KingPat4]

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Newell turned into a good player but needed played in position and man management.

In 50 years of watching Hibs Hecky's reign left me the the most uninspired and feeling helpless.

You must have missed the Calderwood days.....,

[superfurryhibby]

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You must have missed the Calderwood days.....,

I’ll raise you Auld, Butcher and Calderwood, Stanton and Blackley. All had managerial tenures that were as bad, if not worse the Heckingbottom.

[Hibby Bairn]

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You must have missed the Calderwood days.....,

And a lot of Fenlon’s, Auld’s, late Turnbull’s, Butcher’s, Duffy’s and sadly also Stanton’s and Blackley’s.

[The 90+2]

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And a lot of Fenlon’s, Auld’s, late Turnbull’s, Butcher’s, Duffy’s and sadly also Stanton’s and Blackley’s.

Fenlon is a much better HC than Hecky. He done a great job given the circumstances

[Onion]

One of the worst batches of players Hibs have ever recruited in one session. Anything Jack Ross gets out of them is due to jack Ross' managerial ability and zero to do with Hecky who was a disaster of a manager.

[tamig]

His biggest failing for me was his stubbornness and his reluctance to change things even when his coat was on the shoogliest of pegs.

Most glaring examples were his refusal to start with two up front and the perseverance to play Allan and Mallan in the same team.

[tamig]

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And a lot of Fenlon’s, Auld’s, late Turnbull’s, Butcher’s, Duffy’s and sadly also Stanton’s and Blackley’s.

Blackley’s team did give us some decent moments though. That League Cup run was brilliant.

[Hibby Bairn]

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Fenlon is a much better HC than Hecky. He done a great job given the circumstances

He may well be but he was in charge when I didn’t renew my ST after 17 straight years. Bored silly. And he also presided over 1-5 and 0-7. Brutal. Imo.

[Lago]

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I’ll raise you Auld, Butcher and Calderwood, Stanton and Blackley. All had managerial tenures that were as bad, if not worse the Heckingbottom.

Beat me to it. Although you forgot helicopter Duffy.

[The 90+2]

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He may well be but he was in charge when I didn’t renew my ST after 17 straight years. Bored silly. And he also presided over 1-5 and 0-7. Brutal. Imo.

It was worse under Mixu and Coco before Fenlon. There would have been no 5-1 if we didn’t reach the cup final or 7-0 if we didn’t reach it the next again season. The second season, especially away from home we played some terrific stuff. Killie away in the Scottish a massive highlight. No budget either. Fenlon is massively underrated because of a couple of games.

[Captain Trips]

I thought this was about spotting players and TBBH all the managers mentioned in the "who is a better manager" debate all signed piles of utter pish. Fenlons signings were a joke however you 10 players you will get some right.

[jacomo]

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One of the worst batches of players Hibs have ever recruited in one session. Anything Jack Ross gets out of them is due to jack Ross' managerial ability and zero to do with Hecky who was a disaster of a manager.

Not even close.

Hecky made a total mess of reshaping the squad, but at least he left us some decent players who just needed to be managed better.

Think of some of the absolute donkeys who have worn the shirt in the past... none of the summer recruits anywhere near as bad as that.

[The 90+2]

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I thought this was about spotting players and TBBH all the managers mentioned in the "who is a better manager" debate all signed piles of utter pish. Fenlons signings were a joke however you 10 players you will get some right.

Fenlon had no money and had to rely on loans and short term signings.

[Captain Trips]

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Fenlon had no money and had to rely on loans and short term signings.

They were still pish though.

Find better loans and better short term signings then.

[Hermit Crab]

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While I'm not saying he deserved more time, Hecky's signings have, for the most part, started to show that they're not the duds we feared they looked at the start of the season. Not on a par with calibre of player Stubbs brought in, but it's nevertheless interesting to see how most have come to terms with the Scottish game. We clearly require new players but we may not be in need of the mass clearout I thought we needed with Jack Ross came in.

Personally I liked Hecky. His spell at the club wasn't brilliant but he undoubtedly salvaged our season last time round (including reeling in the yams from something like 12 points behind) and I don't think he inflicted any serious long-term damage - unlike several of his predecessors.

Heckys eye for a player is made of glass.