But are they risking their careers? Usually a small fine and a couple of games ban, and that's for betting on your own team. I personally think one of the reasons it is not taken seriously is that a lot of people think it is too harsh a rule and struggle to see how a lower league Scottish player could have any impact on (e.g.) Brazil winning the world cup. And the punishments subsequently handed out seem to agree with that conclusion. Maybe they should be a lot harsher, but then the argument is that the person is suffering enough already, which I would certainly agree with in Brian Rice's case. I remember being absolutely stunned when Ian Black was given a 2 or 3 game ban for betting against his own team with some additional games suspended.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-01-2020 04:47 PM #91
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21-01-2020 05:26 PM #92This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My point is that the rule is there for the right reasons.
Alex Miller, and maybe some players, were caught betting on themselves to win the Skol Cup in 1991. At the time, that seemed daft to me, but I understand now why that too, is forbidden.
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Gambling operators have a condition attached to their licence which requires them to notify Sports Governing Bodies of suspected breaches.
The Gambling Commission in the past have prepared reports on the gambling activities, upon request from governing bodies or on the back of reports of gambling breaches.
Reports of breaches seem to be rare, and the bookmakers own intelligence seems to rarely report offenders.
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21-01-2020 09:23 PM #95
Feel sorry for anyone who has a gambling addiction however I can’t be bother with all this chat around leagues, cups and teams shouldn’t be sponsored by betting companies, at the end of the day Scottish football can’t be knocking back the best offers that are on the table! I liked some of the things marathon bet did while sponsoring us over the years
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22-01-2020 10:46 AM #96
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The alcohol trade by and large have stuck to the spirit of the law (no pun intended) to stop excessive advertising and for assistance for problem drinkers, the tobacco industry needed a great deal of coercion and did everything they could to circumvent their responsibilities but have now perhaps fallen into line, the bookies charm people in with their stunts and the like and then flood the streets that can least afford to lose money with bookies, FOBTs, adverts at half time on the TV and social media with laddish, familiar faces like Ray Winstone saying "Look at these odds" and offer free bets to get people into the process of gambling (like how drug dealers will often offer those who are vulnerable cheap or free drugs to begin with).
It's a grubby, grubby industry.
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22-01-2020 11:17 AM #100This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-01-2020 02:40 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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22-01-2020 03:24 PM #102
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22-01-2020 09:34 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Generation of snowflakes, what’s next ... we gonna rule out being sponsor by any major firms like macdonalds, mars due to the obesity in Scotland? Where do you draw the line?
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23-01-2020 08:47 AM #104
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50828086
This is worth a read.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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23-01-2020 09:29 PM #105
I feel sorry for anyone working within the game who may have a gambling addiction. You can't escape it in the game.
The Ladbrokes premiership
The William Hill Scottish Cup
The Betfred Cup
Teams sponsored by betting companies.
Adverts on the TV before, then at HT during games.
Gambling in football is everywhere.
Maybe the SFA should be doing more to restrict gambling companies becoming so heavily involved in football.Hibs.nets negative posting legend and unofficial ticket agent.
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23-01-2020 09:34 PM #106This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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23-01-2020 09:36 PM #107This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Being a non gambler obviously I`m in no place to comment on how influential those sponsorship deals are in encouraging people to bet at their shops, though I`m sure they won`t be doing it simply as a good will gesture.
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23-01-2020 10:01 PM #108This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Someone recovering from gambling addiction or someone who has a current gambling addiction is really up against it if they are a fan of football. Adverts are everywhere!Hibs.nets negative posting legend and unofficial ticket agent.
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24-01-2020 07:04 AM #109This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Alcohol companies are very restricted in their advertising. As an example they can't present the idea that having a drink improves a social event or improves a person's mood. They also can't suggest it makes someone more attractive to prospective partners. Yet gambling companies present this totally unrealistic idea about how easy it is to win and that's fine.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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24-01-2020 07:10 AM #110This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by mjhibby; 24-01-2020 at 07:23 AM.
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26-01-2020 02:45 PM #111
Just in case you forgot what lowlife we have as 'journalists' https://twitter.com/Sunday_Mail/stat...501428737?s=19
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26-01-2020 03:00 PM #112This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Absolutely horrendous and the paper is being rightly slaughtered.Hibs.nets negative posting legend and unofficial ticket agent.
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26-01-2020 03:10 PM #113
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Rice on Gambling charges
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26-01-2020 04:56 PM #114This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They are all grubby, grubby industries as you call it, the 3 together have killed more people than most of all the wars put together, crazy world eh when we put profit before people.
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26-01-2020 07:23 PM #115
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLife should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, vodka in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming, "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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30-01-2020 02:20 PM #116
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10 match ban, 5 of them suspended.
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30-01-2020 02:35 PM #117This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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As with all things SFA there never seems to be any consistency, although they would argue that they look at each case individually.
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30-01-2020 02:48 PM #119
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Good news for Rice and Hamilton. And because of the lenient punishment it might just get a few more people in football to open up and seek help.
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30-01-2020 04:04 PM #120
Absolute joke. All that does is dissuade others in football with a gambling problem from coming forward, help and support should have been the main emphasis behind the decision.
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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