Received a parking ticket yesterday from P4 parking when helping a family member move. Has anyone else had a ticket from this mob and did you ignore or pay?
I've no idea how quickly they ticketed the car as I must have been out of it 10 minutes going by the time on the ticket
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Thread: P4 Parking ticket
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19-01-2020 08:26 AM #1
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P4 Parking ticket
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19-01-2020 08:37 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Where were you parked?
Was it obvious that you were in a private car park area?
Were there clear signs?
Was the PCN on the car or posted to you?There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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19-01-2020 08:44 AM #3
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19-01-2020 08:57 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Right, don't appeal, but keep the PCN in case they escalate it. The only time you need to respond is when a bona-fide lawyer writes saying that they have been instructed by the company to take court action. Before that you will have got a notice to owner, do not respond.
When you get the lawyers letter, write back acknowledgement as registered owner, NEVER mention the driver's name, telling them that as registered owner you are not liable for the driver's actions.
Worth having a look at this forum.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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19-01-2020 09:05 AM #5
Just had a quick look on Google maps, I known where you were and there is definitely signs about parking. But follow the advice on the MSE forum for PCNs in Scotland. There is no registered keeper liability, yet. Bloody Murdo Fraser is trying to change it.
There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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19-01-2020 09:05 AM #6
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19-01-2020 12:04 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A bill that I thought had been passed last October.
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19-01-2020 12:49 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
https://www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/Bills/106912.aspx
We, in Scotland, were able to ignore the private parking charges as there was no registered keeper liability like there is in the RUK. This numpty wants to bring Scotland into line with England and Wales so that they can prosecute car owners.
I think his ammendment may have been included. Damn.Last edited by Moulin Yarns; 19-01-2020 at 01:42 PM.
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19-01-2020 06:02 PM #9
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19-01-2020 08:15 PM #10
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So the proposal was withdrawn and going no further?
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19-01-2020 08:37 PM #11
Council parking ticket - you definitely have to pay.
Police or traffic warden ticket - you definitely have to pay.
Private land parking ticket - you don’t have to pay.
They are invoicing you to make a payment. If you ignore it, there is nothing in law they can do. You might receive what appear to be legitimate letters threatening court action and rising cost. It’s all fluster and bluster.
To, make my point further, if you feel compelled to make a payment, I have now entered a contract with you for advice. I will invoice you for £200 which you must pay to me within 14 days, otherwise I’ll be really, really cross with you and I’ll scream & scream & scream. Then I might say some nasty words to you on this thread!!
What you going to do? Pay me £200 or ignore my request (bearing in mind I don’t know who you are and you don’t know who I am). That should be food for thought for you to decide what you’ll do.
Seriously though, read the moneysavingexpert.com forum site. It’ll put your mind at rest.
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19-01-2020 08:56 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There have been cases, in this country (Scotland), where people who have illegally parked on private land, who have ignored the "invoices", have been taken to court and lost.
These cases may have been exceptional like the nurse from Dundee with numerous tickets, but a blanket "you don't have to pay" is not quite correct.
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19-01-2020 10:32 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I’m basing that though on a vague recollection of the limited press it got at the time of its passing in Parliament.
He says half commenting when not commenting...
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20-01-2020 12:37 AM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I should have qualified that by saying if it’s a one off, first time ticket in a private parking area, then the likelihood of it being taken further are very, very unlikely.
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21-01-2020 03:26 PM #15
Private parking is a civil matter that costs lots of money to go through the courts. Only time they may do that is if you've been given thousands of pounds worth, I seem to recall a woman recently who gathered loads so they took her to court, were she lost.
Last edited by J-C; 21-01-2020 at 03:58 PM.
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22-01-2020 12:56 PM #16
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Guys, I've been reading the recently enacted Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 which came into law on the 15th November 2019.
Part 8 is the part that deals with parking on private land and it brings Scotland into line with the rest of the UK. Note the date it is effective from, the law is not retrospective.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2019/17/part/8/enacted
You can find out if a road is public or private through the local Council for example
https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/directory/10231/a-to-z/AThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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22-01-2020 01:46 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-01-2020 02:34 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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22-01-2020 04:55 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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22-01-2020 05:04 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But since you ask I’d say the legislation was passed in the Scottish Parliament on behalf of the Scottish Government. So ultimately you have the SG to thank for it.
And that was after the bill going through a number of reviews and committees so while auld Murdo clearly liked the idea and proposed the amendment its a bit of a stretch to say you have him to thank for it, as after all if the powers that be didn’t like it (like many of his other ideas) then they wouldn’t have supported it.
So to use your parlance are you saying the Scottish government has nothing to do with it?
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22-01-2020 09:05 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
https://www.parliament.scot/parliame...ls/106912.aspx
https://www-murdofraser-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.murdofraser.com/single-post/2019/05/01/Introduction-of-Parking-Appeals-system-after-Murdos-campaign?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&_amp_&usqp=mq331AQC KAE%3D#aoh=15797306324924&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fw ww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=http s%3A%2F%2Fwww.murdofraser.com%2Fsingle-post%2F2019%2F05%2F01%2FIntroduction-of-Parking-Appeals-system-after-Murdos-campaignLast edited by Moulin Yarns; 23-01-2020 at 08:32 AM. Reason: hyperlinks!
There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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